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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -aady-

This is actually something to think about. I feel the most effected in such marriages are the first wives, who feel like they have total control over the husband. But here the thing to take into mind was the period in which it happened.

If taking the 1500's into consideration, that time it was a norm to have more than one wife. Rather a monarch with just a single wife was hardly found. In such a society I think women were used to being put in situations where there was not just one wife. So it is possible that they could have been friends. But I think the possible situation where wives could be friends:

--> When one of the wives doesn't want the attention of the husband
--> When the husband is hardly in town

But its definitely something to think about! 😕😕


Let's take the example of Ruqu & Jodha...can they ever be friends?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Its a very thoughtful post indeed. While I agree wives in polygamous marriages cannot be friends..only rarely like Salima begum and Jodha as Salima -Jalal never had any husband -wife relationship.. or have you read Khald Hossieni's "A thousand splendid Suns" where the two wives come together against their monster husband. I loved your post ..thanks for lovely post..


The more I think about it, the more I feel that indeed it is so difficult to imagine them as friends.

In your example, an enemy's enemy is a friend. So the 2 wives coming together against their monster husband is a different case.

Salima has a platonic relationship with Jalal...at least our show says that. So the dynamics of her relationship with Jodha are totally different.

Can Ruqu & Jodha ever be friends, IF Ruqu was NOT as dark grey a character as shown in our show?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Interesting question Khushi.

Polygamy and Polyandry - I am open to both - Today neither is a legal possibility - but when they were legally accepted norms, ppl were brought up to accept the situation with equanimity - yet in either case, the parties involved did have insecurities - and that too is perfectly fine - after all we are human and not saints!!!

Infact, I will as much say that marriage is not finish line in my perspective - Most marriages all over the world do not happen for Love - though many of the much married couples would strongly refute this - and I am even open to either half in a marriage finding Love happening to them with another after marriage - what they do about it is their individual decision.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Interesting question Khushi.


Polygamy and Polyandry - I am open to both - Today neither is a legal possibility - but when they were legally accepted norms, ppl were brought up to accept the situation with equanimity - yet in either case, the parties involved did have insecurities - and that too is perfectly fine - after all we are human and not saints!!!

Infact, I will as much say that marriage is not finish line in my perspective - Most marriages all over the world do not happen for Love - though many of the much married couples would strongly refute this - and I am even open to either half in a marriage finding Love happening to them with another after marriage - what they do about it is their individual decision.



Interesting, Adi...that's all that I can say...even if one is brought up with this mindset, can the wives be friends with each other?...that's my main question...

Btw, if u have the time, please read this,

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


Interesting, Adi...that's all that I can say...even if one is brought up with this mindset, can the wives be friends with each other?...that's my main question...

Btw, if u have the time, please read this,



Khushi, that is my point - the concerned parties will have insecurities and it is ok for them to do so - some will have more and others will have less - that does not make one a saint and the other the devil - it just makes both human - and humans need Love, compassion, Empathy and Understanding.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr



Khushi, that is my point - the concerned parties will have insecurities and it is ok for them to do so - some will have more and others will have less - that does not make one a saint and the other the devil - it just makes both human - and humans need Love, compassion, Empathy and Understanding.


Yes, but what do these insecurities lead to?...it's no joke living under one roof 24x7 with these negative feelings. & what factors contribute to rise/fall of these feelings of insecurities?
The way I see it, the situation is very much akin to sibling rivalry that the first offspring undergoes when parents lavish too much attention on the new second baby, n unintentionally ignore the first. So far, he was the centre of the parents' universe. Suddenly, he isn't. He hates to share his parents.This small child, feels tremendously insecure unless handled well by the parents. The love of the parents for their children has multiplied, but their time has certainly got divided. And the first child resents this.

In JA, I personally feel that Jalal has not handled this issue sensitively. First, he encouraged Ruqu in almost all her wrong doings, pampered her, & assured her she would always be his main Begum. But now she isn't. So what next?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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khushi i do not know if u have access to dhwani where shyamala and all us as a group are pretty active there, would u mind posting the same post over there, u might even get more response..thx😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg

khushi i do not know if u have access to dhwani where shyamala and all us as a group are pretty active there, would u mind posting the same post over there, u might even get more response..thx😊


Did it, Mandy 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


Yes, but what do these insecurities lead to?...it's no joke living under one roof 24x7 with these negative feelings. & what factors contribute to rise/fall of these feelings of insecurities?
The way I see it, the situation is very much akin to sibling rivalry that the first offspring undergoes when parents lavish too much attention on the new second baby, n unintentionally ignore the first. So far, he was the centre of the parents' universe. Suddenly, he isn't. He hates to share his parents.This small child, feels tremendously insecure unless handled well by the parents. The love of the parents for their children has multiplied, but their time has certainly got divided. And the first child resents this.

In JA, I personally feel that Jalal has not handled this issue sensitively. First, he encouraged Ruqu in almost all her wrong doings, pampered her, & assured her she would always be his main Begum. But now she isn't. So what next?


Khushi, when he did so, he was ensuring that Ruqs did not go overboard in her jealousy - at that time even he did not know how events would turn out - hence what he did makes sense - for him Ruqs is a dear friend more than a wife - and he continues to treat her so - and men all over keep themselves out of the jealousies of women (even today) and he has done the same, expecting things would arrange themselves even if it is an uneasy calm - but the current scenario is a totally different one - he has found Love - and the interesting thing is that had Ruqs not deliberately kept the KS knowledge to herself and abetted MA, he would have ensured his equation with Ruqs did not change inspite of Jodha and Love - if you remember he did say all have importance for him and all have a place in his life when the MA showdown was happening - Its a different matter that Ruqs may have had problems adjusting to the fact that he is in Love with another and even Jodha may have had problems with Ruqs ka importance in his life - though EK is determined to show her as a saint, I for one believe in human frailties and no one is above them.

Since the time Jalal accepted his own emotions, he has been waiting for Jodha to accept hers - and the collective complaint is that he has not told this to Ruqs yet - but then he had not said it to Jodha either and who shd he tell this first - Jodha or Ruqs???? - If it is Jodha who shd hear it first then till date what he has done is not wrong - once he does tell Jodha and she too accepts her love for him, only then does it make any sense for him to address Ruqs.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thought-provoking topic indeed. Have been following the thread for a bit- but didn't know on what basis to put my view- from either the real or fictional world.
In real life, I am not familiar with such a scenario.It is hard to judge based on what I have seen in movies and serials including this one, as almost always, the construct of multiple wives is used to create conflict. The Ramayana and Mahabharat have multiple examples of multiple wives (and husbands) ... But I have not read the original texts ... Only watched only in movie or tv form so don't know what is exact truth .. . I always like the stories of Rukmini and Satyabhama and Krishna ... Where I believe Satyabhama initially felt she was superior ... But Krishna taught her a lesson in humility ... And the she was more accepting of Rukmini while Rukmini was always more accepting. But hard to extrapolate from Gods to Mankind as well.

So, in a hypothetical scenario: I think there will be insecurities over their husband's love and attention ... But that does not mean they cannot be friends- it might be like more extreme cases of sibling rivalry. Even friends can have insecurities when it comes to certain things- as we are all human- so I think they can be friends but not best of friends.




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