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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: divyavm



Amidst all these ironies, stands one person who does not differentiate or show impartiality - Jalal, a Shehenshah of Shehenshah, who has lost the support of a shoulder when in need, when he has always been a rock/shoulder for those who needed it.

I am not pessimistic for the future- but felt today was a sad day for the characters of Jodha Akbar.

👏

The Jodha-Jalal relationship is nowhere closer to reaching a culmination and I had no idea what the Kali Ma scene achieved (cos she still seems to be where she was on day 1 with all this!👎🏼)
Something, I can't quite put a finger on what - but, something is too wrong with her portrayal in this track...if this track was to evoke sympathy for her, I'm sorry but it's not working...if this track was to emphasize on epic love, I'm sorry it's the shoddiest depiction of epic love ever!

She is coming out quite cold, stubborn and dare I say heartless. They're showing her overlook an injured man, still sticking to how SHE is right when she admits to Mainawati that it was all circumstantial etc - the list is endless. If she took a decision of not joining him because she is afraid of being hurt again and doesn't want to lose her self-respect - then, shouldn't we see a different set of reactions in his absence - especially since she says her love for him is at its pinnacle!

There is little desperation on her face about the absence of Jalal in her life - unlike him who still remembers her absence despite the humiliations he just faced and despite facing the biggest blow of his life in the form of MA. She is just looking equally blank in all the scenes. In fact, in the mandir scene till she recalled Jalal's face she looked quite content to me.
I want to see 'pining' from Jodha but all I'm getting are the same dialogues. 😒 I thought she was putting up natak in front of Jalal, but would become so heartbroken after he left. She knows she made a mistake too, then what's the point of her stance and sticking to guroor even in his absence?

I'm not saying she should go running back for this, I'm not saying she should apologize instantly - BUT and a big but - I thought she'd show the same amount of 'love' that she talks about for Jalal in Amer which she has not! Just by saying you love someone it cannot be believed... because even MA said she loves him. You need to SHOW it through your actions and reactions which she is not!
Isn't that what epic love is about?
We need more intense scenes from her end - hallucinations, better flashbacks, sleepless nights - tossing and turning in bed, her instincts telling her that something is wrong with Jalal and that he is in trouble (with this MA thing or even during the Abul Maali attack), her lack of interest in dressing because the one man who's supposed to admire her is not in her life now, her sleeping beside the kerchief (maybe throwing it away once and then picking it back in her hand - or even having a conversation or two with it😉) her beginning to taste the flavours of foods that he likes because she misses him so much, she practising her sword fighting but cannot concentrate for a bit since she keeps seeing his profile in front, maybe gets a bit injured in the process and the blood that oozes out of her finger reminds her of his blood on her maang, remembering him every time she fills her maang, any reflection of water reminding her of the reflection of his face - at one point she should look like his absence in her life is driving her insane - LITERALLY...till she says 'No more...my ego IS him...my pride IS him...my abhimaan IS him... and I need it back!'

No one else needs to see all this part of her ^^^ she can keep it to herself. But in her solitude, this is how she must be na if the 'love' she talks about has kadaachith gone up. How is it epic love otherwise?

Now if she goes back on Friday also, it feels more like a compromise...even if she says she's going for Jalal! Like she's going back because she got bored of listening to Bharmal, Mainawati, Shehnaaz and Shaguni Bai's advice..
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: happygolucky099

jodha is so blank and emotionless

frankly speaking i have lost all my hopes from her now
i m not missing her in agra
becoz it is jalal jalal

no wonder rajat tokas is getting all awards and pari gets none
feel bad for her



neena, itsn't it strange other than jalal no one is missing her😆..in fact i did not even felt once that something is missing..in fact when her scene came i fast forwarded it..i was like same old bhajan🥱..and same old mere charitra pe laalchann lag gaya🥱
Edited by mandyg - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: mandyg



arey yaar jab maine thaal ke saath jodha ko dekha mera haath automatically ff button pe chala gaya..kya karun reh nahin paati..kya hua mujhe kuch pata nahin..bas uske baad precap aa gaya😆

haha😆koi ni aage bhi aise bht saare mauke aaynge m sure abt dat😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: mandyg



neena, itsn't it strange other than jalal no one is missing her😆..in fact i did not even feel for once that something is missing..in fact when her scene came i fast forwarded it..i was like same old bhajan🥱..and same old mere charitra pe laalchann lag gaya🥱


yes the episodes are mindblowing😳
i thought after departure of jalal she will miss him
but she is blank🤓
sometimes i feel it is purposely done by the makers regarding the off screen issues🥱
because if she is hurt and fearful about trust issues and her future in Agra then also she should show some emotions na
but her scenes are fixed these days like a formality
5 minutes per episodes
even in the biggest track of maham bhanda fod she is not there😲

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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
Hi All- again- thanks so much again for all the posts. Still having Internet issues and my phone has been reduced to the speed of a turtle to post a reply.

So, I will try to respond to most of what I am hearing in one post and pray it uploads:

- Salima Begum's advice: Yes, I loved it- that he should be strong like a Shehenshah. However, why did she not give this same advice when he was broken about Jodha? There she encouraged him to be human, accept his love, and find Jodha. Why is expectations for Jalal when it comes to Jodha different? Anyways, I can let that go as a CV inconsistency.

- Hamida Bano: I like some of the points made on why her going to him now would have hurt more as he always gave MA a higher place. That may be right. I look forward to seeing how she consoles her tonight as shown in the precap.

- Jodha: Sindhu and Tamy, I know, I might be being hard on her. Yes she has been hurt. But either she needs to continue to show hurt or show her hurt is evolving- she is doing neither and it may be due to bad direction. Maybe I am missing something- but I sensed no hurt or pain in her conversation with Shehnaaz, in the mandir, or in her conversation with Shaguni Bai. Did she in any way sound like a person whose prem for Jalal increased? I read her last expression as indignation that she will fight destiny and say her classic "aisa kuch bhi nahin hein" but I truly hope you are right- she does want to go back to Jalal.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: happygolucky099


yes the episodes are mindblowing😳
i thought after departure of jalal she will miss him
but she is blank🤓
sometimes i feel it is purposely done by the makers regarding the off screen issues🥱
because if she is hurt and fearful about trust issues and her future in Agra then also she should show some emotions na
but her scenes are fixed these days like a formality
5 minutes per episodes
even in the biggest track of maham bhanda fod she is not there😲



she does not want to work with the main director...aisa kab tak chalega..and on top of that no retakes or long hour shoots..then these are the results!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: divyavm

Hi All- again- thanks so much again for all the posts. Still having Internet issues and my phone has been reduced to the speed of a turtle to post a reply.

So, I will try to respond to most of what I am hearing in one post and pray it uploads:

- Salima Begum's advice: Yes, I loved it- that he should be strong like a Shehenshah. However, why did she not give this same advice when he was broken about Jodha? There she encouraged him to be human, accept his love, and find Jodha. Why is expectations for Jalal when it comes to Jodha different? Anyways, I can let that go as a CV inconsistency.

- Hamida Bano: I like some of the points made on why her going to him now would have hurt more as he always gave MA a higher place. That may be right. I look forward to seeing how she consoles her tonight as shown in the precap.

- Jodha: Sindhu and Tamy, I know, I might be being hard on her. Yes she has been hurt. But either she needs to continue to show hurt or show her hurt is evolving- she is doing neither and it may be due to bad direction. Maybe I am missing something- but I sensed no hurt or pain in her conversation with Shehnaaz, in the mandir, or in her conversation with Shaguni Bai. Did she in any way sound like a person whose prem for Jalal increased? I read her last expression as indignation that she will fight destiny and say her classic "aisa kuch bhi nahin hein" but I truly hope you are right- she does want to go back to Jalal.


@bold
even if her problem is not EGO
then also CVs should show it na
i mean why we have to depend on analysis of forum to understand her feeling
can't she show some emotions😕
dailty her scene is same

someone reminds her of her EGO and she says aisa kuch nhi🥱

monday-mainavati
tuesday-shehnaaz
wednesday-shaguni bai
can't they show something else
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: lashy

👏

The Jodha-Jalal relationship is nowhere closer to reaching a culmination and I had no idea what the Kali Ma scene achieved (cos she still seems to be where she was on day 1 with all this!👎🏼)
Something, I can't quite put a finger on what - but, something is too wrong with her portrayal in this track...if this track was to evoke sympathy for her, I'm sorry but it's not working...if this track was to emphasize on epic love, I'm sorry it's the shoddiest depiction of epic love ever!

She is coming out quite cold, stubborn and dare I say heartless. They're showing her overlook an injured man, still sticking to how SHE is right when she admits to Mainawati that it was all circumstantial etc - the list is endless. If she took a decision of not joining him only doing so because she is afraid of being hurt again and doesn't want to lose her self-respect - then, shouldn't we see a different set of reactions in his absence - especially since she says her love for him is at its pinnacle!

There is little desperation on her face about the absence of Jalal in her life - unlike him who still remembers her absence despite the humiliations he just faced and despite facing the biggest blow of his life in the form of MA. She is just looking equally blank in all the scenes. In fact, in the mandir scene till she recalled Jalal's face she looked quite content to me.
I want to see 'pining' from Jodha but all I'm getting are the same dialogues. 😒 I thought she was putting up natak in front of Jalal, but would become so heartbroken after he left. She knows she made a mistake too, then what's the point of her stance and sticking to guroor even in his absence?

I'm not saying she should go running back for this, I'm not saying she should apologize instantly - BUT and a bit but - I thought she'd show the same amount of 'love' that she talks about for Jalal in Amer which she has not! Just by saying you love someone it cannot be believed... because even MA said she loves him. You need to SHOW it through your actions and reactions which she is not!
Isn't that what epic love is about?
We need more intense scenes from her end - hallucinations, better flashbacks, sleepless nights - tossing and turning in bed, her instincts telling her that something is wrong with Jalal and that he is in trouble (with this MA thing or even during the Abul Maali attack), her lack of interest in dressing because the one man who's supposed to admire her is not in her life now, her sleeping beside the kerchief (maybe throwing it away once and then picking it back in her hand - or even having a conversation or two with it😉) her beginning to taste the flavours of foods that he likes because she misses him so much, she practising her sword fighting but cannot concentrate for a bit since she keeps seeing his profile in front, maybe gets a bit injured in the process and the blood that oozes out of her finger reminds her of his blood on her maang, remembering him every time she fills her maang, any reflection of water reminding her of the reflection of his face - at one point she should look like his absence in her life is driving her insane - LITERALLY...till she says 'No more...my ego IS him...my pride IS him...my abhimaan IS him... and I need it back!'

No one else needs to see all this part of her ^^^ she can keep it to herself. But in her solitude, this is how she must be na if the 'love' she talks about has kadaachith gone up. How is it epic love otherwise?

Now if she goes back on Friday also, it feels more like a compromise...even if she says she's going for Jalal! Like she's going back because she got bored of listening to Bharmal, Mainawati, Shehnaaz and Shaguni Bai's advice..


Lashy, superb👏. We all want to see Jodha evolve as a person in love, but there is no progress, this track has made me dislike this character so much. Why are they showing this as one sided love story? Jalal's character has shown so much progress as a lover, husband, son and an Emperor. But Jodha is far behind and even I don't prefer to see a sudden "U" turn in Jodha and she rushes to Jalal, all these days, she has been only talking about her ego/pride, respect, just saying my love has increased for him doesn't help, even the kerchief what Jalal left foe her, had to be reminded by a 3rd person that, he left it for you, no reactions from her side, she is leading a normal/usual life. Very disappointed with this track and only because of Jodha, she doesn't even seem to understand Jalal's pain. Nothing matters to her, except her ego??😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: alapi

hey neena Pari not getting awards has its reason yar dkh Akbar is shwn in his 20's so is Jodha per Akbar is made to behave like a guy in his 20's by CVs bt Jodha ko to pta ni kya dikha rhe h dat wy much people cant luv her character so not her also...i mean in the beginning she came as RAjvashi bai den aftr marriage GHRINA bai nd ryt she is shwn as GAZNI bai nd she will definately get award wen she will become jallu's jodha bai...so dnt wrry agle ZRA me chances h😉


Pari is talented
she deserves it
but her character is butchered to infinity😡
i hope she gets😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: mandyg



she does not want to work with the main director...aisa kab tak chalega..and on top of that no retakes or long hour shoots..then these are the results!


di main problem is with jodha's characterization
pari can't be blamed for it😳

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