Originally posted by: deejagi
Mansi take a bow and a bear🤗 for all you written here on behalf of Mrs. & Mr. Jalaluddin. 😉
I agree with you on the points like her outburst his patience, her grievance his submission, her anger his soberness & her flare and his pleading...
Jaya I was waiting to read your views on this episode!😃🤗
I fail to understand why he had to play that act of death, doesn't it means he is testing her love yet again? What if she had left the place by then in the fit rage and never heard this rumor? Would he have declared she care less for him? What if she had taken a drastic step and ended her life instead of coming there to watch his dead body? Yes I do understand as you all that he was too desperate to meet her and he felt that is the best way to bring her out of her hideout but wasn't it cheating? When he accused her of telling lies what did he do now? How standards are different for different people? Instead of spreading death news, he could have gone on fasting claiming as a prayaschit for his crime and will not eat even a granule till the person pardons him and knowing his nature his habit of eating every now and then , knowing his incapability to stay hungry, she would have come out on her own and given him the food and mean while she would have had some alone time to analyze the situation.
As I had also written Jaya, I think he made a big tactical blunder with this death act and trickery. To an already wounded soul like her, it must have been like a red rag to a bull! This was not the time to do these kinds of acts. See this is where his teda-ness sometimes traps him!
She knew his life is in danger from his near ones and he is away from his safety with only 3 people with his and anything can happen to him if he stays in public for long. She also would have realized how dangerous it will be fro him and her to stay in a crowded place where enemy can attack in form. If she could send medicine for him , she would have ensured he will have his food. He risked his life by announcing that he is Shehenshah Jalaluddin and what will happen if his enemies realize in which avatar he is in Matura. Now he is drawing many more enemies towards Matura the peaceful city where people were happy with their life.
Absolutely right. This is Blunder No. 2!
Jalal needs to know that for a ruler, it is not only the physical strength is required but also a strong, unbiased mind which can make judgement in fraction f seconds and decide what is right and what is wrong. He can not rule his nation always on Trial & error method. When he can not control, his anger & temperament in his own Harem, how he control himself in conflict situation where sharp thinking is required. every action or riot can not be controlled only by counter attack but can also be controlled with peace mission. He needs realize one thing first that he just can't act on his instinct but has to think and rethink before acting. he needs to think the pro and cons of his action. Whether you intentionally kill or unintentionally stab, the person will be dead and no matter what you do to amend your mistake, you can not bring back that person to life. So he needs to learn the patience which is very essential for an emperor. He also needs to realize that what ever we see is only one side of the facts and their is another side which is hidden from all and before passing the judgement, he needs to know what lies in the other side of that particular scene. For this he needs to go through some self pity mode and also some rigorous think process. This can only happen when he stays away from his near ones and when he is distressed. So for him to evolve as a right king, Jodha needs to stay away from him so that he can rethink all the possibilities to get her back in more reasonable way which is without shortcuts.
Jaya, he is not too bad indecision-making in other issues but especially with regard to Jodha, his love blinds his shrewdness. Part of it may be because this whole "love" thing is so new to him, he is "excessively in love" and that blinds him. Even in love there has to be some self-control, na? he cannot speak and act as per his whims and fancies and not care how it hurts people and then he can't say it was all "due to my excessive love". What use is love if there's no respect?
And Jodha had been accusing repeatedly about him damaging her Maan, Samman & Athmabhiman... Ok let us agree that he asked her about whom she was meeting repeatedly at night, who was that unknown man she kept as secret. How could she have an affair with an outsider while she keeps her husband at bay... Was that not true that she had kept her husband at bay, not allowed him to go forward in their marital life while she could allow another person to touch her freely? Unless she tells him who the other person was, how will he know that he was her brother? Before accusing her of adultery, did he not ask her about who that person was repeatedly? If she is feeling so shattered for him asking such questions, how she would have taken it if the whole world questioned her about her character as atleast half of Agra army saw Sujamal twice in her own room. I believe in one thing (which I learnt from my mom) that rather than allowing some outsider to talk evil on my own person, I will take charge & blast that person, rather than allowing someone else to slap my son, I will do that honour, rather than allowing any third person to pin point my daughter's mistake, I will show it to her ahead of others, by doing all these my won people may berate me, may disown me for a while but I will have the satisfaction of saving my people from the clutches of the outsiders.
Yes indeed this was her issue ... she could not expect that continued silence saying "vachan-bhad" is right all the time. Even in keeping vachans there should be some limit. Like maybe you can keep a vachan from others but surely not from your husband also? I don't personally see why a vachan needs to be kept even from one's own husband with whom one should have no secrets!
Coming back to him not respecting her, if he were not thinking of her Maan, Samman & Athmabhiman, he would not have waited for so long to question her about whom she had been meeting. He would have just marched into the place and would have asked her in front of that person. he cared more for her samman, that is the only reason, he din't want to make her Maan less in front of that outsider (her known person) by intruding their meeting, so he silently went back thinking his wife will tell him everything without him asking for. He cared more for her atmabhimaan, so he didn't make it obvious to her that he had seen her with someone else, but repeatedly and indirectly asked her have trust in him and tell him what is bothering her so that he can help her to ease her pain.
Yes indeed, he did wait a long time for her to tell him everything. But even so, even if she did not come and tell him everything, blowing his top off and insinuating that she's having an extra marital affair was a bit over the top! And then telling her get out ... that was too much. She went overboard on the vachan, and he went overboard on the suspicion.
And about him disrespecting the brotherly relation, how on the earth he will realize she might have been meeting her brother? The straight forward Jodha Begum, who talks about justice might meet her husbands enemy secretively? The Rajvanshi Begum he knew was seedi saadi female who fights for justice directly & not from behind, so why will he think she must be meeting her brother Sujamal? If she were meeting Sujamal, why she didn't reveal the truth while asked? So how can she blame him for committing crime for wrongly putting the relation?
She needs to realize all these things and to think on these she needs some lone time. She can't be rushed to realize all these things, she needs her mother, Granny & her other dear ones support and their experience of life is very much required. So it would be ideal for her to go to Amer with her father but I don't want Jalal to go along. She needs to stay away from him for some time and it is advisable for him as well.
When they are away from each other, they can keep recalling all their encounters, good or bad and analyze with more clarity. Otherwise they will leave their good times and will see through the microscope on the other party's mistakes.
Correct 100% Jaya. Now the need of the hour is space and time and mental clarity!
So it would be better for Jodha to to return to Amer where she can see how the real life is for a lady (not virtual which she had been looking for from Jalal). How her mother, sister in laws and other lead life and how their husbands behave towards them. Then only she can draw lines between her life and the others life, how much freedom she has got in her sasural when compared to her maika, how much her husband cares for her words when she watches her parents, how much her husband loves her when she watches her friends and SILs. When she is away from Jalal, it will be easy for her to think about him and weigh all his qualities and realize which weighs more... his goodness or evilness. His love or his hatred. Only then she will realize that he said all those hateful words as he loves her immensely and fear of loosing her to some one made him jealous and that jealous made him to say all those unpardonable words..
For Jalal, it would be better for him to move on the border area of his sultanate along with Todarmal and realize on the hardship his people are facing and also Todarmal once again re-emphasized on the tourist tax being paid by Hindu tourists and realized how things are happening without his notice and why Rajvanshi's actually hate him. By doing that he will also realize yet again why Jodha hated him so much during their marriage an dwhy it is tfaking so much time for her to accept his good qualities and accept him as her husband.(earlier she had mentioned it during Kali mandir trip but now he will know the vastness of the cruelty Mughal soldiers are carrying out on Hindus. By the time, he finish his round trip and reach Amer as part of his trip not to fetch Jodha, he would have realized his mistakes.
Jaya you have also given a formula for some time apart from each other for both of them. The only difference between your idea and mine is that I thought it would be better for them to be physically together at Amer but mentally apart to think through carefully. If they separate andhe goes off somewhere else, he might be dso distracted that he falls prey to the enemies who may take advantage of his flustered mental state to try and finish him off when he is mentally tortured. That's why I thought it would be safer for him also to be in Amer. In fact even Agra is too dangerous for him to be moping alone.
So All I vouch is that Jodha alone should go to Amer and Jalal should go around the borders. I prefer both of them return together to Agra.
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