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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think jodha's pouing all frustration,anger on jalal in ME is not only for last happening fiasco but also for frozen woe,pain in her heart since a long period frm ben track..hence, frm her influential voice these type lines have been come out that whenever u wish u get angry on me,whenever u wish u give smile on me! Its reminded that in last time how rudely jalal ignored jodha before hushiyaar saying he wanted to spend nite with ruq..after ben track there was no chance for jalal to repent his blunder but this time he has gotten proper opportunity to rectify his every mistake that he did with jodha in prior many tracks..in that situation jalal is gonna,its necessary for him as it wl b learnt him to be aware abt his relationship with jodha..Jalal's remorse is also fully visiable n I praise his action that he is doing to pacify jodha..now Jodha needs an assurance that he won't do this same fault again in future..
Jodha's inner agony that she poured in ME, it was more touch wood to me even her lines were made jalal quite speechless..aab bolna ka kuch vi baki nahi hai,serf jalal ko kuch karnahoga so as to jodha gets assurance in his love,there respect,trust on her r also involved.
How wl jalal confront HB if he doesn't take jodha along with him in agra whom he has given promise without jodha he wouldn't back?
Wl jalal accept his futile so easily not to continue pacifying jodha n go back agra?
Nice analysis.
Edited by nabiii - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12
Brilliant post 👏 Really Loved The Maha Episode 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Great post Manasi as usual. 😃

Here is my take:

I still can not let go of yesterday's episode.

Yesterday Jodha reminded me of an ocean... calm on the outside and so many of emotions churning inside. How can we say she is not hurt or that she does not feel anything after seeing her yesterday!!!

And everything she said was not just for the last incident. This was the sum of their relationship. And the apology from Jalal was also for everything that has happened between them.

Both Jalal and Jodha are in a path where they will let go of all their past mistakes and remorses. In a way, this is a new beginning, or rather the end of all toxins. The "holica dahan" is a nice way of symbolizing this.

Jodha need this space and be away from Agra to sort out her mind and heart. She has to be absolutely sure that this is what she needs and wants. She cannot enter into this relationship unless she is absolutely sure of Jalal's commitment and loyalty. You are right, she does not need love declarations. She already know that he loves her. This was not even about love. This was about trust.

Jalal need this too. He need to let go of all the negetive emotions, especially guilt. If she had just accepted his apology, he would still keep feeling the guilt and shame. This would have poisoned the relationship. Yes, he did a mistake. But he cannot go on feeling guilty throughout his life. That is not right. He need this redemption. He need this to become the person he always was, within.

Both of them need to move on from this and not let this linger in their heart.

I am loving this track...😃

Love
Kshithi




Kshithi, what beautiful lines you have written here. This is wonderful ... your observation is so powerful!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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fantastic & most unbiased analysis i must say. i agree with almost all the points, but i have few ques to the the CVs;

is it fair for an emperor to stay away from his sultanate for so long??? enemies can take adv of his absence & can attack agra & delhi & we also saw enemies r plotting. so will it be justified for him to go amer if jodha goes there??? or should it be like the film way??? its gud tht he had left his ego, but he cant settle in the amer forever. 2ndly, CVs cant ignore the fact tht jalal trusted jodha even after he saw her going into the hut with an unknown person at midnight. was it easy for a 16th century man??? i want a strong heroine, but not a weak hero.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Res.

It was NOT bad from any angle. I liked it. They emotional outburst was LOOONG overdue. Not only she said a lot about the present accusation on her character BUT she summed up ALL her sufferings in Agra till now.

She expressed her wrath that again you are asking me to answer objectively in YES or NO.!!!.. Like 'that' night.

Jalal was equally gracious, he listened and allowed her to speak her heart out.

Will post in detail later. Got to go.
Enjoyed reading your Analysis.

Abhay, not only was this Jodha blowout long overdue, but good he has had a blwout and she too has had one too, because when they reconcile they would both have no more residual anger against each other! This reconciliation will be perfect rfesh start!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi - my reply to your post asap.

Just posting a photo SsnehHa had shared intitialy (on 7th April) and on my request on Ela's thread gheet has again dug it up! Thanks to
SsnehHa and gheet.

See in the photo Dadisa is with Jalal, she was not there in Jalal's recent Amer visit episodes.
Also I enlarged Jalal's phots (😆) and we can see same marks on his forehead and cheek that were shown in yesterday's episode.

I guess this picture might mean Jalal goes to Amer to manao and bring back his Jodha 😃

BTW something very silly but it reminded me, on his first Amer visit Jalal had injury marks from tiger attack, here also he has got injury marks! That remains my favorite track till date in JA. I sooo hope this track betters that! 😆





He going to Amer, for sure. But, this should be a short track, as there are many events going to unfold in Agra also. Adham and co.

:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

Mansi, truly a great analysis. 👏 Today you have spoken about Jodha and Jalal's crystal clear feelings.

I was really happy with yesterday episode. It was very good. I'm quite that Jodha did not bend in front of Jalal even once, yesterday her heart was crying it was yelling in pain and agony. It was a very heart wrenching scene. 😭

I personally feel, Jalal deserves this, he needs to learn to value his relations and with this incident in his life, I'm pretty sure he'll turn into a better person and will be able to deal with all ups and downs in a relation.

Precap:- I think Jalal should go to Amer, I think he shouldn't return to Agra and I think he isn't returning to Agra without his love. So I think his next destination is Amer.

That is precisely my wish too, Akanksha! Amer will be a much more protective place to go to if they want to men their relationship. Imagine what will happen if they go in this fractured state to the Agra paagalkhana!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra

well said, Kshithi, your campersion to ocean, Amazing, Agree your every line.yes, yesterday which jodha said, All, , result of her realtionship, with jalal. when Ocean full of, Lahares, then blasted in the shape of Tide OR Jwarbhatta, that happened on jodha yesterday.

After Tide, ocean realaxe, then we can see Boat, ships, beauty, or ocean has no boundary,

& deepness also no end, so AKDHA realtionship, is also going, where, after Tide, we will see
deep realtionship, which will occer herself, LOVE, TRUST, UNDERSTANDING, etc etc


coming after sometime.



Ayushi, what beautiful words. here take a hug from me! This is splendid!🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

That is precisely my wish too, Akanksha! Amer will be a much more protective place to go to if they want to men their relationship. Imagine what will happen if they go in this fractured state to the Agra paagalkhana!


I Know, it will be a disaster!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: peepu

Hi manasi,

Loved the analysis and yes you acted as an attorney lol just literally to plead both Jodha and jalals case.
Points to be noted and ignored..
Objections sustained and overruled...really loved your unbiased view..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was for you for your wonderful writing.
Now for the cvs in many departments
First...good editing
Second lovely site selection
Graphic of mathura temple well..but the inner parts of the ghaat and water scene well constructed, they dint look phoney.
Thirdly I love the way the plot is thickening the track of separation is paving the way to two good things.
Jalal gets into the men only business of operation clean up Agra...jodha is saved from outer tensions and more politics.
Rukaiya will see this as her temporary victory. .but she's like that only she lives in her bubble island and other thing rukaiya will realise that sheheshah is back but jalal is now with jodha...he lives for her jodha only.jalal has now integrated with jodha..nobody can take jalal away from jodha and vice versa.
A bitter but true realisation for her.
I want the seperation to happen would love to see pining from both sides.
An indulgent jalal and nakhre wali jodha only they dont make her suffer from amnesia and keep her sacrosanct like yesterdays episode..
So time to raise the curtains for the emperor I'm all in to watch him.I'm all excited to watch Adham and Maham biting dust but long for jodhas presence at that time..maham owes a lot to jodha...
Agra politics can unfold with love angle established.

Pepu, even if there's a separation I think it will be very brief and Jalal will go to Amer to mano-fy Jodha - see the picture that Maddy has posted!

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