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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

u know there is some biasness in showing individual charactervn its uncalled for !!
with jalal's character every thing had ben shaped , mamy introspection had been done while butchering his character also in btw but regarding her characer has been just smashed ...from the begginning of her marriage she had been the centre of criticism just bcz her charcter has not till been able to take shape..i dont know whether to like or not ,whether to sympathise with her or not !! here every divergent post has some weight in it...its difficult to say who's at more fault but the i concluded both r at fault puttin the blame on one person means escaping or going the esy route way !!


Just to clarify-


I am not saying Jodha is more at fault than Jalal or vice versa. I feel what Jodha was shown to do went against the CVs own characterization of her.

I know- each post makes sense for the person writing it - it is always that way 😊

Jalal's character has been butchered as well from the teda emperor he was ...but rarely there is an inconsistency- it is a general trend.

For example, if you were to ask, if he did not mistrust her, why did Jalal follow Jodha? The CVs put in a voicetalk- the reason I did so was for your safety and not because I didn't trust you.

If Jodha was shown changing / contradicting what she said before, then at least they can show why!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Now, I am all excited! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

One very interesting point to note about Jodha is that her sense of identity comes from being a Rajvanshi - And all throughout one can see this bias of being a Rajvanshi in her characterization as well as those of all others - Now this is very interesting, since for all individuals identity is their very life - but unfortunately, when a person takes this to extremes, it comes across as ego, lack of empathy and lack of sensitivity, which has happened with the characterization of Jodha here - The only time Jodha identifies herself as a Mughal khandaan ki Begum is in the Shivani track - but then she is made to revert to her old form.

And if one looks at TE - yes he too takes his identity as a descendent of Timur and as a Mughal in a strong manner - but in him this is not shown to be in extreme - he is shown as capable of accepting others identities as equal to his own - and this is where his humility, empathy and sensitivity spring from - He is capable of accepting all as humans with the ability of making mistakes as well as the capacity for great acts.

This difference between the two characterizations makes it even more difficult to connect with Jodha - her righteousness comes across as self - righteousness and she herself comes across as biased, egoistic and proud - which is very very bad characterization by the writers - The CVs and EK really need to look hard at the Jodha that they have penned and make the necessary changes to make her more human and humane - ah but I do believe that the Zee people told someone who had called them up that 'Jodha is not from this world' - so maybe this is their way of creating an alien character!!!!!


BTW to all who are reading this - this comment is for the makers and their lack of insight in characterizations - it has nothing to do with the actors, the real characters, any religion or community or gender. Hence it is requested that this may be read in the spirit in which it is written.


i love ur post really...😳 her rajvanshi identity is the main problem n shudder to think even if she has fallen in love with him ...what is her priorities???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

One very interesting point to note about Jodha is that her sense of identity comes from being a Rajvanshi - And all throughout one can see this bias of being a Rajvanshi in her characterization as well as those of all others - Now this is very interesting, since for all individuals identity is their very life - but unfortunately, when a person takes this to extremes, it comes across as ego, lack of empathy and lack of sensitivity, which has happened with the characterization of Jodha here - The only time Jodha identifies herself as a Mughal khandaan ki Begum is in the Shivani track - but then she is made to revert to her old form.

And if one looks at TE - yes he too takes his identity as a descendent of Timur and as a Mughal in a strong manner - but in him this is not shown to be in extreme - he is shown as capable of accepting others identities as equal to his own - and this is where his humility, empathy and sensitivity spring from - He is capable of accepting all as humans with the ability of making mistakes as well as the capacity for great acts.

This difference between the two characterizations makes it even more difficult to connect with Jodha - her righteousness comes across as self - righteousness and she herself comes across as biased, egoistic and proud - which is very very bad characterization by the writers - The CVs and EK really need to look hard at the Jodha that they have penned and make the necessary changes to make her more human and humane - ah but I do believe that the Zee people told someone who had called them up that 'Jodha is not from this world' - so maybe this is their way of creating an alien character!!!!!


BTW to all who are reading this - this comment is for the makers and their lack of insight in characterizations - it has nothing to do with the actors, the real characters, any religion or community or gender. Hence it is requested that this may be read in the spirit in which it is written.


Well said as always Adiana! She is not consistent on this one as well.

You know why her righteousness sounds so bad now- she didn't hold herself to the same righteous standards and doesn't even recognize it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm


Just to clarify-


I am not saying Jodha is more at fault than Jalal or vice versa. I feel what Jodha was shown to do went against the CVs own characterization of her.

I know- each post makes sense for the person writing it - it is always that way 😊

Jalal's character has been butchered as well from the teda emperor he was ...but rarely there is an inconsistency- it is a general trend.

For example, if you were to ask, if he did not mistrust her, why did Jalal follow Jodha? The CVs put in a voicetalk- the reason I did so was for your safety and not because I didn't trust you.

If Jodha was shown changing / contradicting what she said before, then at least they can show why!


yes thats wat i wanted to say ..introspection .self talk .soliloquy has not been done so far her character goes...her character needs improving ...urgency is added to it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine_sun


i love ur post really...😳 her rajvanshi identity is the main problem n shudder to think even if she has fallen in love with him ...what is her priorities???



Sunshine it is not the identity which the problem, but that no one can match up to it which is causing the problem - which is what the CVs have ended up doing!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm


Well said as always Adiana! She is not consistent on this one as well.

You know why her righteousness sounds so bad now- she didn't hold herself to the same righteous standards and doesn't even recognize it.



@bold... Perfectly said divya - and this is total character assassination by the CVs!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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if they want to make jodha really mahan then they shud look at her characterization ...her characterizations speak loopholes !!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

if they want to make jodha really mahan then they shud look at her characterization ...her characterizations speak loopholes !!


Yes, if she told the truth, and Jalal still screamed the same allegations ... Then I would he criticizing Jalal and saying Jodha is indeed living the life of truth and trust on her side.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am of the opinion that the show has a new set of creatives. These new people have not carefully analyzed the happenings of the past and since they they themselves were not involved earlier they don't have an image of the character.

For them everything is new and that is where the discontinuity comes in. They are trying to create new situations for the characters but they don't have their past actions at the tip of their fingers.
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