CVs, please bring my Jodha back! - Page 25

Originally posted by: divyavm

Look Ash (Ashyagh) had a def, but I can't find which page it is on.

Google will tell you the following- it is about fighting for the equality of sexes which means same standards for men and women. Hence, the way I interpret it is:

- Equal standards for things like trust

- Ability to speak up to a man equally

However, if you read other threads, and I mean no sarcasm in this, because I have been told that I am not a feminist because I do not relate to a woman's POV only a man's POV.

I just want Jodha to be equal to Jalal in every which way- her ability to defend her views, her trust, her graciousness to own up to her mistakes.

There is a great post by Anne on this - will try to khoj the link for you but will be online only much later today.

noun

1. 1.

   the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

   
   
   
   

An extract from wikipedia (the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism)

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

In a very simple manner feminist are those who condone the act of limiting or restricting the females due to their gender. If at all anything is denied to you just because you are a female then to fight it is being feminist. For example, woman used to be expected to be at home and care for children. Woman's place is in the kitchen they used to say. Women were not allowed to work (except in domestic employments) or vote (later in history). So the feminist movements fight it and in lots of issues have won too.

But the world is not completely equal yet. There is still a lot of prejudice against woman. For example when you try for a very senior management level posts, there is always a question of whether a woman can be as objective, precise, ruthless and strong as a man; for woman as still at times thought to be creature of emotion.

My feminist point , as a person fighting for equal rights, is that we woman ought to make the world see we are equal through our conduct and not by lecturing or reasoning on why we are equally good as the man. We need to be able to show that we too can be strong in mind; objective, precise and that we are not emotionally swayed when it comes to decisions. You cannot command respect if playing victim and demanding understanding to your gentle feelings. A feminist is not merely a woman who says; hey you cannot discriminate because of my gender. She is also the woman who says that I am as strong (in mind, because biologically we are not physical equals to the man) and as wise and just as you are.

In the forum, generally I think the idea is that if you are cannot see the plight of Jodha, why she had to do what she had to do, and why Jalal is the root cause of her hurt; then you are not feminist but instead a very patriarchal person.

This to me falls under the category of radical feminism. Radical feminist believe that man cannot be right. They also believe that all of woman problems are caused by man. They do not accept that woman can be a contributing factor or that woman can be wrong. Its rather extreme sect of the feminist movement.

Here is a link to Feminism variants. They are feminist but fighting or highlighting a certain type of point only for example radical feminist and lesbianism. Here is a link with for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_movements_and_ideologies

I hope this gives a brief overview of feminism. I don't know to what extend you question goes. But I just hope that you find some replies here.

Thank you Anne. Since I happen to be a design researcher, media and cultural studies scholar and fashionista, I take this opportunity to present my understanding of feminism - feminism as a social movement started as a protest against gender bias but today seems to have lost the original agenda of inclusion of women - today it seems to have become a marginalization of all who do not believe in superiority of women - as Anne says feminism is about equality and about acceptance - that all are needed to make the world go round!!! - my personal opinion is to go beyond gender and look at individuals and their povs - for me gender has always been a social construct - and perhaps what we need is to get out of the gender rut in many issues and give the individual his due place. Further, relations cannot be based on power and domination and that is more important when one looks at things holistically. If patriarchy was confining due to its hegemonic attitudes so is radical feminism with its need for power and domination. As the postmodernist scholar Derrida says - every truth gets deconstructed and reconstructed over tome and space thus making everything to be evolving - so it is with society.

Originally posted by: adianasr

Thank you Anne. Since I happen to be a design researcher, media and cultural studies scholar and fashionista, I take this opportunity to present my understanding of feminism - feminism as a social movement started as a protest against gender bias but today seems to have lost the original agenda of inclusion of women - today it seems to have become a marginalization of all who do not believe in superiority of women - as Anne says feminism is about equality and about acceptance - that all are needed to make the world go round!!! - my personal opinion is to go beyond gender and look at individuals and their povs - for me gender has always been a social construct - and perhaps what we need is to get out of the gender rut in many issues and give the individual his due place. Further, relations cannot be based on power and domination and that is more important when one looks at things holistically. If patriarchy was confining due to its hegemonic attitudes so is radical feminism with its need for power and domination. As the postmodernist scholar Derrida says - every truth gets deconstructed and reconstructed over tome and space thus making everything to be evolving - so it is with society.

Originally posted by: divyavm

You don't round to the fifth decimal place ... One Finance person once told me I can't reconcile .01 million in a budget of 200 million- I didn't know where to put my face. 😆

Ah... my brethren is heartless... 😆

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

An extract from wikipedia (the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism)

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

In a very simple manner feminist are those who condone the act of limiting or restricting the females due to their gender. If at all anything is denied to you just because you are a female then to fight it is being feminist. For example, woman used to be expected to be at home and care for children. Woman's place is in the kitchen they used to say. Women were not allowed to work (except in domestic employments) or vote (later in history). So the feminist movements fight it and in lots of issues have won too.

But the world is not completely equal yet. There is still a lot of prejudice against woman. For example when you try for a very senior management level posts, there is always a question of whether a woman can be as objective, precise, ruthless and strong as a man; for woman as still at times thought to be creature of emotion.

My feminist point , as a person fighting for equal rights, is that we woman ought to make the world see we are equal through our conduct and not by lecturing or reasoning on why we are equally good as the man. We need to be able to show that we too can be strong in mind; objective, precise and that we are not emotionally swayed when it comes to decisions. You cannot command respect if playing victim and demanding understanding to your gentle feelings. A feminist is not merely a woman who says; hey you cannot discriminate because of my gender. She is also the woman who says that I am as strong (in mind, because biologically we are not physical equals to the man) and as wise and just as you are.

In the forum, generally I think the idea is that if you are cannot see the plight of Jodha, why she had to do what she had to do, and why Jalal is the root cause of her hurt; then you are not feminist but instead a very patriarchal person.

This to me falls under the category of radical feminism. Radical feminist believe that man cannot be right. They also believe that all of woman problems are caused by man. They do not accept that woman can be a contributing factor or that woman can be wrong. Its rather extreme sect of the feminist movement.

Here is a link to Feminism variants. They are feminist but fighting or highlighting a certain type of point only for example radical feminist and lesbianism. Here is a link with for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_movements_and_ideologies

I hope this gives a brief overview of feminism. I don't know to what extend you question goes. But I just hope that you find some replies here.