Jodha Akbar 214: The meltdown- Part 1:Mod note pg58

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staker123

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Posted: 11 years ago

#841

can i get the epic love back

or it never existed 🥱

this Amer track is making no sense to be honest

what was the need of mathura track then

i just hope in the strong competition with IPL and new strong competitor Star this epic love gets respectable TRP😕

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shreya roy

@munni_rajatfan

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Posted: 11 years ago

#842

Prob is tht CVs dont understand the real meaning of feminism nd neither jodha is understanding the real meaning of self respect. Feminism doesn't mean to present urself as a victim nd jodha is exactly doing it. Real self respect would have been if she had protested tht night only. Im ok with her outburst yesterday but not realizing her mistakes is really not done. She can fight with her husband but she cant insult his feelings like this. Nd CVs had made jalal a love seek puppy who is least bothered about his sultanate. Nd HB tht gr8 saas wht can I say about him.

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priyanka

@shiningways2407

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Posted: 11 years ago

#843

Originally posted by: munnirony
god knows wht CVs r trying to prove. in this track both jalal & jodha r equally wrong but only jalal is blamed. why about jodha accusing him for SKLL even after jalal kept his promise. is it fine for a shahenshah leaving his sultanate in danger & run behind his begum??? gr8 saas HB isnt bothered about the empire which BK & jalal had build once again. did she forget wht she went through when humayun lost his empire to sher shah suri???? jodha seriously thinks tht jalal should read her eyes?? how on earth jalal will know suja is her bro until & unless sumone tells him??? wht about her lies to jalal??? wht about jalal's faith on jodha till he saw unknown person in his harem??? which marriage vows she was talking about??? when did she do pati ki puja??? she never accepted him as her husband.

P.S.:- & now kanha is also fed up of the CVs.

well cvs r upto creating jodha the great n r simply destroying the dignity of akbar. They r simply misusing their freedom of expression. I seriously want jalal to go back to agra but I know it wont happen as one amer pic of jallu was already out. Before 4th april everyone was with jallu, but after 4th april hawa ka rukh badal gaya n all r blaming jallu. Kyun bhai ,jallu kya shehnaaz hai jo bina bole dil ki manodasha samjh jayega. Human being hai, jab tak koi batayega nai ki vo stranger kaun that use kaise pata chalta.n madam jodha ka ek aur hunar nirala hai saara blame pati par daalna. She always reminds him of patni dharma which she actually never followed. Kab ki puja pati ki?? Dhakka dena=puja, skll ka aarop = puja, pati se sirf demands karna = puja, this is new definition of pati puja ?? Chalo mana he accused her of Nrishta but did she try to understand ki usne kyun kiya? She never accepted her love, never allowed him to even touch her , upar se chori chupe milna, ek saint v usi galat fahmi ki chapet me aata jiski chapet me Jallu aya, but nobody understood him, this time even salima was not neutral she was completely on jo side.

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munny2

@munny2

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Posted: 11 years ago

#844

I was just hanging on to this illogical drama for only rajat but after today's crap that they dished out Too much to bear. I can not believe what jodha was saying , Kya galti thi humari , I just wanted to whack her. Anyways I didn't expect anything more from her but still it is irritating me to no end. But my even major issue is with jalal and hamida begum. What is wrong with this guy acting like a dead guy😡 No words.

Why are you begging her and why aren't you asking her if her rajvanshi father would be ok if she goes out in the middle of the night to meet some guy and lie to him when he asks her repeatedly.

What was she saying about I was trying to save your life ,my foot , she was busy celebrating kwajashrea's birthdays and what not she completely forgot about the issue once she said something to jalal after that she never gave a second thought about it . She seems beyond selfish these days , she wasn't ready to break her vachan for her husband who was going through hell but to save her brother she was ready to break the vachan , she twists her words to her own benefit to be precise her clan's benefit. Ruqqiah looks like a Devi Infront of her same treatment for everyone no clauses. The way she hugged her father and jalal looking on like an outsider who has committed the greatest sin ever was so heart wrenching. How can she say that she never felt his love😲🥱😭. Jalal in the precap was just pathetic how can you still beg and plead her . The Shehansha has no self respect or is it only a rajavanshi trait and Mughals lack that trait. All I could think was the way Hrithik said " aur ab hum apse Puchenge bhi nahi",When ash refused to come to Agra. Why can't he behave like that, like a royal. The way jodha was smiling and taking leave from everybody and the look she gave to jalal was so 🤢😕😭. I am done with this jodha can't stand her anymore and can't watch jalal like this. I so wish he doesn't follow her to Amer . Not only me but nobody can take anymore of shooing from RAJKUMARI jodha . NOWAY SHE IS jodha begum.

No one should get a mother like reel hamida bano what a charecter . Mainavati is 10000 times better than this lady. The mohabbat ,insaniat ,and all the big stuff the saas Bahu talk about never learn to apply to themselves . I wish jalal comes back to Agra and if she says anything about not bringing jodha back and blah blah I hope he gives it back to her good and proper. I vented out so much but still I don't feel light hearted I can't put myself through this torchure anymore I am taking a break from this bakwaas serial.

PS: I read sandhya.A 's comment couple of pages ago cursing the guy you hate "ekta's hero's fate may befall you" was so hilarious😆 😆But don't ever use it people nobody deserves that no matter how bad they are.

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divyavm

@divyavm

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Posted: 11 years ago

#845

Originally posted by: lashy

In a very strange sort of way, I'm more disappointed now than during the Ameri go die episode...
Cos at that time, they were never close, they didn't like each other...and she couldn't care less for him...so, I didn't expect much...
Now, it's different...they've been through hell and death...they've been through troubles...she's been his kajri and he her badal...then, why such drastic regression?

Why can't a person who uses her intelligence in other's matters think why he reacted that way - because you have given him reason to do so...ANY human would react adversely if he caught their partner with someone else and you didn't utter a single word in explanation...if you had your reasons he had his...if your self respect is important, isn't his?

Why is she expecting him to be an an antaryaami and understand half said, unsaid, and to-be-said words, bhaasha of the eyes etc etc when she couldn't even hear the 'basic' things he was/has been telling her...

Why is she letting him fend for himself, grovel on his feet, abandoning him amidst the crowds in a wounded stage? She wouldn't even leave Shareef like this if he apolgized to her, me thinks now...

Now, I genuinely think Jalal was right when he assumed Jodha never loved him...why do we assume Jodha loved him? Because she drank the poison? She did it to fulfil her duty (in her own words) and even Jiji Anga and Atgah Khan would do it to save their king if it came to it...

Where the CVs should show Jodha standing apart from the rest is 'sensing' his presence close by, missing him as a lover, reminiscing their times together, being confident of her love for him...but, she's not shown experiencing any of this...Then, as a viewer how am I to understand she is in love with the man and not just following her duty? I have no qualms about her leaving Agra and even not accepting to return to keep up her self respect...it's her other behaviour that's troubling me😕
If she keeps bringing up how all Ben sacrifice went to waste and how her charitra was bhanged, then I can only say that it's his inherent magnanimity with her that he doesn't bring up the sacrifices he's done for her and the insults he's borne from her (except the Dhaka)

Such a furore was raised in the forum over half an episode when jalal had barely mentioned to atgah khan asking him to take care of Ruqs (after the Ben fiasco) so that he'd take care of Jodha...no one was prepared to even wait for half an episode to see what was to come...everyone accused him of being heartless and how he had no love for Jodha etc etc just because the CVs gave him a 'ham Jodha ko sambhaal lenge' line...when the reality turned to be otherwise...😕 Now what are we supposed to make of Jo's behaviour?

Like you, I too waited till about three days ago before I lost hope in this track... I was infuriated with HB from scene 1 of the revelation, but kept my reservations about Jo in check...my bubble's been burst now...

And thanks so much for your comments on my FF characters bobby... There the Jalal and Jodha are different to the ones in the serial and I do plan to keep them consistent that way 😳
Thanks so so so much Bobby😳

Shraddha, I feel your pain as I am right there with you. But, I think this was the great plan for today- the objective of the episode was to show things:

- How far a Shehenshah could go for their love

- How Jodha stands up for her self-respect

For dramatic purposes they took it to the extreme without any balance or concern for the characters and who they are. In essence, killing the essence of the characters ... But I actually think they will rebound.

Jodha is not in the same stage of love as Jalal for sure ... I think she was never meant to be. I think only after Jalal completely fell at her feet transformed in love ... She could never fully consider it.

And you know what seemed the most shallow ... Before she said she didn't save his life to be honored / or gain anything, she did it because ...well she never completed that sentence ... She is walking around that that should have given her a blank check to do everything.

Ah well ... Hopefully, Jodha will get there- she was always a slow learner.

You know I love your FF because Jodha is sensitive and perceptive and it is a two way street.

And please let us know how your call with Zee goes- it sounds fun! 😆

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

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Posted: 11 years ago

#846

Lashy

Please call Z and give them a blast on my behalf as well.

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PBDcrazy

@PBDcrazy

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#847

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
Lashy
Please call Z and give them a blast on my behalf as well.

I am sorry to say, but this MU track is a Major Debacle ... & they have completely tarnished the image of jodha & jalal hopelessly & outrageously 😡... murdering the historical character's ... what a shame ...

I seriously praise ashutosh gowarikar for giving us a "dignified & royal jalal & jodha" ... (p.s i still watch this movie & compare it with current serial ... gosh !! whatta contrast character's )

Edited by varshaakulkarni - 11 years ago

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Sandhya.A

@Sandhya.A

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#848

The only sensible way in which the story could proceed will be Jo leaving for Amer and Jalal for Agra, both of them missing each other big time, thinking of one another...and then meeting and union. If Jalal is going to trot to Amer wagging his t**l and beg and plead and appease Jo, repeat of the earlier Amer track, I am going to end up feeling sorry for myself for watching this imbalanced and insensible show wasting 10 months time watching and discussing it.😕

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#849

The sad thing is that without realising its impact, the impressionable younger generation (especially) is being shown the infallible, always right, MAHAAN heroine, who in reality, CANNOT exist...at least NOT in the human form. We all have our share of strengths & weaknesses, which make us what we are.

Here, in JA, everyone knows that the FINAL outcome WILL be that Jalal & Jodha will unite. Hence, the "Hail Jodha" chants since yesterday...In reality, it would have probably meant the end of the relationship. There is no place for EGO in a relationship, especially when arguably BOTH parties have been at fault.

...when people comment on fictional characters, I presume it means that they are saying:

that is/is not the correct way to behave in real life if a similar situation were to come up with them in reality...

So, just a word of caution & advice to the youngsters out here. Equality, feminism, gender bias is one thing, & blindly following views presented by (maybe) a majority of people here on IF, is another. Just because a hundred people call a wrong thing right, it does not make it right.

The PH has a motive to glorify the heroine totally out of proportion...to gain high TRPs & rake in the moolah...why is the audience doing this??...is it radical feminism or it actually a school of thought?...think...😊

Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago

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divyavm

@divyavm

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Posted: 11 years ago

#850

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A
The only sensible way in which the story could proceed will be Jo leaving for Amer and Jalal for Agra, both of them missing each other big time, thinking of one another...and then meeting and union. If Jalal is going to trot to Amer wagging his t**l and beg and plead and appease Jo, repeat of the earlier Amer track, I am going to end up feeling sorry for myself for watching this imbalanced and insensible show wasting 10 months time watching and discussing it.😕

I don't think he will go to Amer... The Amer pic is from when he went to find Jodha- I think the clothes are the same.

Going to Amer defeats the whole purpose of the separation track ...

Why would he be saying in the precap- don't go on his mind if he is going to?

Edited by divyavm - 11 years ago