Jodha Akbar 214: The meltdown- Part 1:Mod note pg58

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Folks,

I was mightily pleased last night to see that at long last, most of my predictions in the main post on my last thread have been proved right in toto. Since it is not often that this happens, I am breaking open the bubbly. In any case I will need at least 3 champagne flutes to get thru what awaits us tonight !

Let me refresh your memory about these predictions;

1) Rajat pulling out all the stops for Jalal's Majnun act &

2) Jalal being lectured by Hamida Banu, Salima Begum, Jijianga ,and possibly Javeda and the palace cat as well (someone actually asked me whether there was a cat in the palace!), about what they will insist was his unwarranted cruelty towards Jodha, and the need for him to make immediate reparation. Since he will feel exactly the same by then, he will cry a few more bucketfuls.

The Soliloquy: I was so pleasantly taken aback, and hopeful, as were so many of you, seeing the unusually clear and logical phrasing of Jalal's soliloquy in front of Jodha's portrait, which was in fact unbelievable by JA standards. As also by his intensely moving, and dignified vilaap - candid and holding nothing back, offering no facile excuses, but not letting her go scot free either.

The deep voice rose and fell, at times thickening with pain and regret, at times almost too husky to make out. The little catch in it as he says that as it is his pehli mohabbat, he has no mohabbat ka tajurba, is so understated, and it is such a throwaway line, and yet it made my heart turn over in empathy.

His face was furrowed with both grief and plaintive protest, but it retained its dignity and never descended to being maudlin. . I was left wondering who had written those lines for him.

This was regardless of my reservations about his assertion that she had always sambhalofied him, as they were a happily married, well adjusted couple of longstanding, and as if there had never been nasooors like the dhakka between them. Not to speak of the edgy tentativeness of all their interactions, with absolutely no demonstrative affection, or even ease from her side, and the constant worry about being accused of SKLL on his.

What this showed is that Jalal is now clearly inhabiting a vision of his life with Jodha that is a pleasing, though fictional mental construct, no more. But the point is that he has begun to believe in this version, like man lost in roseate opium-fuelled fantasies.

He was also going on about her vafadari aur mohabbat, which too made wonder what he had been smoking. For to the best of my recollection, there had been no asareeri (voice from the heavens) informing him that Jodha Begum had now discovered that she had abundant prem for him.😉

But of course, as is invariably the case in this benighted show, Jalal's good sense and logic were short-lived, and withered and died under the blast of his Ammijaan's fiery (and totally inconsistent, but that is the one consistent element in Jodha Akbar!) rhetoric. He promptly started giving his best take on an ice cream left out in the sun.

It was pathetic, his inability to point out to his foolish mother - with whom he can be as distant and cutting as he wants when he so chooses, even recently - that he had had ample reason for what he did, and that he had been unbelievably patient for so long.

As for her comment about the need for him to be able to recognize good from bad, the track record of the family in the matter of sons in law does not inspire confidence, does it ? And then he could have told her that when she herself had made the same accusation against her Jodha beta, it was he who had stood by Jodha, and that too without any evidence.

In Majnun mode: The Majnun part, with Jalal watering Jodha's scrawny tulsi plant with his tears (and thus practically ensuring its imminent demise😉) does not merit any comment, except that this kind of constantly watery-eyed grief does not suit Rajat, otherwise a master of emotions at any level. I might be a jurassic specimen, incapable of appreciating the Sensitive New Age Man (well, medieval man, to be precise!), but I do not like men crying.

The scene where Jalal vainly tried to catch his mother's eye before mounting his horse was the worst of all. I am sure Rajat could do a magisterial take on inner pain, guilt and despair with dry eyes, and do it a lot better than this whipped schoolboy act. But he will not be allowed to try that, more is the pity.

Ruqaiya-Salima: As for the accompanying, and entirely predictable pronouncements by Ruqaiya and Salima, they do not merit any comment either. The latter is now setting up as the resident Obi wan Kenobi of the Agra palace, with the active backing of Jalal (and Jodha too once she is back).😉

Her vicious jealousy of Bairam Khan's first wife, Rahim's mother, right up to the latter's death, is now long buried and forgotten. But I do wonder how supportive of Jodha she would have been if she had wanted Jalal for herself as a real husband. Not much, I would bet! Now that would have been an interesting twist!

What stayed with me from this segment was Ruqaiya's silent double take when Salima tells Jalal that she knows ki aap Jodha Begum se behad mohabbat karte hain, and her lifeline of a dil- less Jalal is lost for ever. Another was the genuine, frozen despair in her face as Jalal announces that he will go in search of Jodha and will not return without her. She has guessed this already, and said as much to Mahaam, but coming face to face with it is something else.

Wild goose chase to Amer :Jalal riding at breakneck speed to Amer, only to draw a blank there. This only shows that his pehli mohabbat has sadly depleted his grey cells.😉 The shrewd and savvy tactician he once was would have remembered Mainavati's last bhashan, that she would close her doors to a parityakta Jodha, and concluded that Jodha would never go there. He could have spared himself (or rather his horses) the trouble.

My bet is that Mainavati will blame Jodha and Jalal will defend her, while indulging in yet another bout of self-flagellation. The Amer lot, especially Bharmal, will curse Sujamal, roundly and with good reason, for having created this imbroglio, while Jalal defends Sujamal as well and lauds him for saving his life.

So off Jalal will go now, on the real chase, which in practical terms, even today and so much more so in that age, would closely resemble searching for a needle in a haystack. He will of course find her, safe and sound, but that is only because the CVs will it so. It is NOT what is the most likely fate to befall her.

Jodha:What Jodha has done is not just childish, it is profoundly irresponsible, She, a lone and beautiful woman, wandering all over the countryside with no resources , would be exposed to all sorts of very real dangers that could end up destroying her body and soul. It is exactly like a teenager today who runs away from home in a huff, and if he/she is not lucky, ends up as the puppet of a criminal gang and is used for their sordid ends.

But of course no one is going to point that out.

Right now, Jodha seems ensconced snugly atop a haystack, thus going one up on Nirupa Roy, who generally restricted herself to city pavements😉.

She is presumably subsisting on fresh air and the abundant prem she suddenly announced that she now feels for the Shahenshah.😉 (I was dumbfounded by this sudden, giant leap from bhavanayein putting out their little shoots like snowdrops after winter, but bahut prem? Does she even know what that is? )

This despite the Shahenshah having given her bahut dukh by not looking deep into her eyes (courageously risking another dhakka ) and divining that she meant something very different from what she said and what she did not say.

The best form of defence is offence: Jodha has by now refined and finalized her defence strategy, which consists of going on the offensive without the least hesitation. Gone with the wind is the confession to her antaraatma that it was her silence that was the real cause of all this mess, and that given the circumstances, Jalal's anger was only to be expected.

Now, it is all Jalal's fault for not divining, in a burst of clairvoyance, what she had really meant.

The funny thing is that 450 years down the road, Jodha's rooh is if anything even more aggressive in pursuing this line of attack Aapko dekhna chahiya tha, par nahin.. Aapne hamare moun ko hamaar apradh samajh liya..aur hamare prem ko paap. Bang! Knockout blow!

And Jalal's rooh is as submissive and as ready for self-flagellation as ever, closely resembling a Chinese Communist Party cadre at a public, self-corrective exercise.😉

A question about Jodha: But the question that haunts me, and to which I seek an answer is this. Does Jodha, so ready to feel her own, and justified outrage and pain, at all understand what Jalal must have been going through these last few days because he loves her? Does she even glimpse, not to speak of grasp, the horrendous agony that racks him because of what she has been doing, which drives him almost insane with jealous rage? Does she understand how she is in good measure responsible for what he does in the end?

It does not seem to me that any of these questions can be answered with a Yes. If not, then what sort of a love is it that she now claims to feel for him, a love that cannot read the heart of the loved one, cannot see things thru his eyes, cannot perceive and will not heal the hurt that lacerates his whole zehen?

It would be a childlike, innocent love, to be sure, dewy fresh, affectionate and charming, but lacking in both depth and deewangee. Not the love of a Laila for her Majnun, for all that Jodha was prepared to die for Jalal. Which is, in one sense , the easiest kind of love.

Future prospects:Well, I am sure many of you are holding your breaths waiting for the Grand Reconciliation scene. I too hope that it is at least halfway decent, with Jodha having had enough time for some long overdue introspection, leading to her going back to her stand with her antaraatma. But this is one hope that is almost sure to be belied.

I for one shudder at very thought of Jodha Begum's Grand Homecoming to Agra, with Jalal playing the Reformed Sinner (now graciously forgiven by her, as predicted by Salima) to the hilt, while Hamida and her cohorts fawn all over The Paragon. We will be drowned in treacle and mush , and might all end up becoming diabetic.

But the fact is my problem is not with this sort of unquenchable optimism, or even a kind of starry-eyed hope for genuine romance. My problem is with what Jalal has become. At the rate at which he is setting my teeth on edge, it is my dentist who is going to go laughing all the way to his bank!😉

Not even the incredibly talented Rajat - forced deeper and deeper into the Majnun mode, for all that Jodha is no Laila - can salvage this show if this sort of thing continues, and the present state of affairs becomes permanent.

As for me, if the current avatar of Jalal is going to become a permanent fixture, I will not give a damn if he gets her or she gets him, for she was never of much interest to me, and he will now follow suit. I do not like men to be wetrags. I watched the old Jalal in one of Jodha's flashbacks tonight, when he is offering to help her off a podium - that roguish, Rhett Butler look was such an unalloyed delight!

Then I watched the present avatar, watering Jodha Begum's tulsi with his endless tears. And I felt like weeping as well.

But don't let me dishearten you folks, carry on! Only, re: the Grand Reconciliation, don't get your hopes up for any real hugs, not to speak of a kiss, tauba, tauba! After watching the fantasy love scene the other day, I marvel at the unquenchable optimism of those awaiting any such demonstrations.

This said, for all your sakes, all I wish with all my heart that I am proved wrong, and you right, and that Badal and Kajri are resurrected in Mathura. For I have grown so fond of so many of you that I would rather be wrong and have you happy than the other way around.


Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't mind being the palace cat who doesn't bother telling Jalal anything. Cats are often quite standoffish like that.


but Shyamala Akka, why is Jalal pathetic for not explaining to his mother. I would actually have not liked him explaining anything to anybody. Especially blowing his own trumpet about what a great bloke he was ...how patient he was... In any case, Hamida Banu is hugging Jo's picture by now, so why not leave her to it.

But, yes, I don't like seeing this teary Jalal or Rajat. Sensitive New Age Guy doesn't automatically mean bring out the tissues. Just means he has understood himself first, then others a bit better. Let us hope.

yes, why Jalal went straight to Amer, I put down to his current 'grief' or just wanting to get away from Mother. he just got on his horse and rode out of there...horse just made a beeline to Amer. There he will ignite Myanavati's Jodha bashing and no good...or bad...can come of that.

With apologies to Nirupa Roy, Jodha is doing no such impersonation. She left because that's about all she feels she can do. Reckless, yes. But when has Jodha ever bothered about safety...and no point bringing up dhakka again ... that was an inebriated Jalal and Mitr Jodha. In any case, as you say, 450 years later, the Roohs are agreed on the whys and wherefores, so I feel like an idiot .

No I'm not expecting any epic hugs. Just glad that the story is actually moving. There will always be these stalemates and reconciliations I think.


But I do agree - I can't watch Rajat's Jalal reduced to this. There are better ways to show remorse. Wonder how many more times we have to see this cycle of events...



Edited by PadBear - 11 years ago
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Aunty, thanks again for an entertaining post. I too felt Jalal was very coherent and logical in his words to the portrait till he was derailed by HB.

You know I always loved the tarazu because of the balance it represents but this show has lost its balance. Jalal has come down too much under guilt and Jodha has risen too much into a feeling of greatness, sacrifice, and self- pity.

Now the balance is getting lost to the extent of being acidic.

Divya
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I had more fun reading your post than I had in the entire week of JA episodes. Oh, Sorry! That is hardly a fair comparison, the episodes were trash.

There are so many humorous lines, I don't know where to start. The Chinese Communist Party cadre line has to take the cake, I am laughing even as I type the words.

As for the serial, it is in God's hands now, as long as Ekta does not take over the responsibility herself and we will have to wait for all her films to release before she does that.

The serial seems rudderless at the moment, it is apparent in the pathetic story( when you get into a boxing match with one of the creatives and the other leaves for richer pastures this is what happens), the maudlin acting, the illogical flip flops of the characters etc. I could go on and on about this. Why tire my fingers.

In the meantime I am just going to forget this mish mash of a serial for a while and think instead of our Emperor, standing in line in a crowd of cadres, red cap smartly adorned, the red book in hand for all to see, eyes suitably lowered before her majesty, the inimitable Jodha Bai.
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Hello,
Well the post was full of punches I was laughing a lot.
Jodha running away with thaila and kanha in middle of the night was unimaginable for jalal.
She did it so that shehenshah comes after to manaofy her
And we may get a mowgli wala SR😕
Well im not happy with the way jalal is behaving like a lost puppy and needs salima to tell whether he should search for jodha or not.
I will add now we will hear mainas tweets and bhashans to jalal and now jalal will get that jodha has got this hunar from her mamma
We might see jodha practicing bhashans in public with best reserved for jalal
Is there any epic love story here?
If Yesss tell me where.
The actor if not comfortable in doing intimate scenes should call quits...I'm extremly pissed off at that pathetic hug, I don't want a SR all of a sudden it should come when both lovers are in same celestial plane .
I'm not satisfied with jalals characterization. He's being hen pecked by his begums.
I hope jodha is made to realise that she owes some responsibility in moving on the relationship to next level
Till now I'm aghast at cvs that they have never shown jodha getting attracted to the handsome man she's got.
She's got no woman hormones. ...she is almost saintly.
Please instill some desires in her to be a wife to jalal someday being a mother of her kids ...bit all we get are ...jodha saying touch me not and I do prem you .just loke an innocent girl..

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Loved reading your post Aunty, where the episodes these days are idiotically funny coz of the sheer absurdity that's shown your post makes me laugh coz of the funny home truths you've brought forth. 🤗

Considering the fact that Rajat/Jalal is the only reason I watch this show, its really really really disheartening watching him turning into this weak, weepy, crybaby, indecisive, vella, wallflower pujari of Jodha. I cannot be in the company of such men let alone liking them. Is it too much to hope for & expecting to get the old strong, arrogant, greyish, layered, decisive, confident, majestic MAN Jalal back??? 😭

Jodha irritates me now. Mahaan people irritate me. I like the normal mistake making humans, who have the strength to accept their mistakes and the courage to ask for forgiveness. This lady has broken all television records where she has actually truly forgotten that she is at fault too and is busy blaming the guy to tears and playing the "poor me" card And the way she keeps declaring her love every episode without any progressive realization, how does she do that??? 😕 Did her antar aatma smack her into accepting that she loves Jalal after she said no she didn't??? And in 1 day it went from ghrina ka keechad mein prem ka kamal to bohot prem? 🤪

I WANT MY OLD JALAL BACK AUNTY !!! WANT HIM WANT HIM WANT HIM BACK !!! 😭
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One koshtin- If this is Meltdown part 1, how many parts are we expecting?

I am partially joking but sadly not fully.
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Not explaining, Cuddly Bear, but almost berating, and re: the last point, rubbing her nose in it. It is not a question of any trumpet blowing, but of stating the case re: Jodha's accumulated follies, so that she at least knows the score. Instead, he behaves like a schoolboy in the good old days, taking his pant down readily for a caning. Ugh.. .

The Nirupa Roy allusion: You have not got it because you have not read my last mini post on my last thread. I am not going to explain that now - if you are sufficiently interested you can dig it out from among those 30 odd pages - but if you have ever actually seen any of her films, you would know that Nirupa Roy also left whichever home she was leaving in any of her films because that was the only thing she could think of to do. The parallel is in fact, according to your own take, exact.

Well, the roohs might agree on anything and everything, but it is not they who are watching this abysmal show, and what is worse, analysing and commenting on it. But then, that is my own fault, just as most of what is happening now to Jalal is his own fault.Not for the reason being touted across the forum, as I am told, but because he has become a weak, whimpering wetrag of a man, which all and sundry can use to wipe their jootis. Not my idea of a Shahehshah.

Shyamala Akka

Originally posted by: PadBear



I don't mind being the palace cat who doesn't bother telling Jalal anything. Cats are often quite standoffish like that.

but Shyamala Akka, why is Jalal pathetic for not explaining to his mother. I would actually have not liked him explaining anything to anybody. Especially blowing his own trumpet about what a great bloke he was ...how patient he was... In any case, Hamida Banu is hugging Jo's picture by now, so why not leave her to it.
But, yes, I don't like seeing this teary Jalal or Rajat. Sensitive New Age Guy doesn't automatically mean bring out the tissues. Just means he has understood himself first, then others a bit better. Let us hope.

yes, why Jalal went straight to Amer, I put down to his current 'grief' or just wanting to get away from Mother. he just got on his horse and rode out of there...horse just made a beeline to Amer. There he will ignite Myanavati's Jodha bashing and no good...or bad...can come of that.

With apologies to Nirupa Roy, Jodha is doing no such impersonation. She left because that's about all she feels she can do. Reckless, yes. But when has Jodha ever bothered about safety...and no point bringing up dhakka again ... that was an inebriated Jalal and Mitr Jodha. In any case, as you say, 450 years later, the Roohs are agreed on the whys and wherefores, so I feel like an idiot .

No I'm not expecting any epic hugs. Just glad that the story is actually moving. There will always be these stalemates and reconciliations I think.

But I do agree - I can't watch Rajat's Jalal reduced to this. There are better ways to show remorse. Wonder how many more times we have to see this cycle of events...

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Oh my dear, you have outdone yourself this time! 👏

A big 🤗 for not only getting that CCP cadre crack - I am going to keep count of how many do, like I once counted how many times Jalal uttered Jodha Begum in a single segment - and embroidering on it as well, and so perfectly at that.

Wonderful, and you made my day!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas

I had more fun reading your post than I had in the entire week of JA episodes. Oh, Sorry! That is hardly a fair comparison, the episodes were trash.

There are so many humorous lines, I don't know where to start. The Chinese Communist Party cadre line has to take the cake, I am laughing even as I type the words.

As for the serial, it is in God's hands now, as long as Ekta does not take over the responsibility herself and we will have to wait for all her films to release before she does that.

The serial seems rudderless at the moment, it is apparent in the pathetic story( when you get into a boxing match with one of the creatives and the other leaves for richer pastures this is what happens), the maudlin acting, the illogical flip flops of the characters etc. I could go on and on about this. Why tire my fingers.

In the meantime I am just going to forget this mish mash of a serial for a while and think instead of our Emperor, standing in line in a crowd of cadres, red cap smartly adorned, the red book in hand for all to see, eyes suitably lowered before her majesty, the inimitable Jodha Bai.

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Not explaining, Cuddly Bear, but almost berating, and re: the last point, rubbing her nose in it. It is not a question of any trumpet blowing, but of stating the case re: Jodha's accumulated follies, so that she at least knows the score. Instead, he behaves like a schoolboy in the good old days, taking his pant down readily for a caning. Ugh.. .

The Nirupa Roy allusion: You have not got it because you have not read my last mini post on my last thread. I am not going to explain that now - if you are sufficiently interested you can dig it out from among those 30 odd pages - but if you have ever actually seen any of her films, you would know that Nirupa Roy also left whichever home she was leaving in any of her films because that was the only thing she could think of to do. The parallel is in fact, according to your own take, exact.

Well, the roohs might agree on anything and everything, but it is not they who are watching this abysmal show, and what is worse, analysing and commenting on it. But then, that is my own fault, just as most of what is happening now to Jalal is his own fault.Not for the reason being touted across the forum, as I am told, but because he has become a weak, whimpering wetrag of a man, which all and sundry can use to wipe their jootis. Not my idea of a Shahehshah.

Shyamala Akka


Ah yes I have watched many NR movies and if you mean her leaving with a child in hand and wandering the streets... then... I refuse to think of Jodha that way. 😆 Jo has a sense of adventure about her ... I never know who she'll bump into and what might transpire...exciting. Nirupa Roy just stands on the sidelines and waits for her kids to grow up and re-unite.


Not my idea of a Shahenshah either. We can always skip some episodes and wait for him to stop crying...


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