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Posted: 11 years ago
I hope so, but Adiana, don't get your hopes up! The way he sidled up to her and hesitantly said he wanted to talk to her was hardly promising!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: adianasr



Sandhya be ready to hear a repeat of the Amer track dialogue of dying anywhere but Amer - and my guess this time it will be from TE - when he tells her not to wrry that he wont die in Amer!!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
I will, my dear, I saw this just now, having been very busy all morning, and it is 11 am. I will need a couple of hours, and I will put up a small review on your new thread, that has already reached 7 pages!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

I have just opened a new post 'In continuation of "Shyamala Aunty's thread ..." as we seem to have crossed the page limit. Can we continue our discussions there? Perhaps till it crosses the page limit too?

Please answer my P.S there...aunty...your explanation too of Jalal's expression.😃...and your take on today's episode too?

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I will, my dear, I saw this just now, having been very busy all morning, and it is 11 am. I will need a couple of hours, and I will put up a small review on your new thread, that has already reached 7 pages!

Shyamala Aunty



shyamala my dear your tipni on the latest episode is needed😉
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

<font size="3">Lashy the issue is no longer about Jodha realising her fault in this particular issue. The issue is larger.</font>

<font size="3">Jodha, from the day the marrige to Jalal was fixed, has been shouting Ghrina. After the Tasneem track also, she has not moved from her ghrina place much, if you notice. And she is still at that same point where she was at the start - why????</font>

<font size="3">This woman fell in love with Jalal on that ghangour eve when she saw his reflection in water - she did not know who he was and since she was to be married to Suryabhan she locked this fact away in the deepest recess of her heart - and she has never dared to open it since.</font>

<font size="3">Then came their marriage and her subconscious realised that this is the same man from Ghangour - her subconscious, her heart, her soul realised that this was 'The One' - and since it was the man she had sworn to hate and kill, that love was quickly converted to be read as hate - this is elementary psychology - now with that outburst, Jalal finally broke her heart - and as Rumi says 'you have to break your heart to let the light in' - and this has happened to her - finally the light has seeped into her heart and she can see the truth, which she is still shying away from - that she had fallen in love with Jalal before their marriage - this is the truth - and I am suspecting that this is going to finally blow up before both of them next week with her admission. </font>

<font size="3">This is the dramatic admission that someone mentioned, which is coming up - and if one sees the build this makes sense too.</font>


do u really think that she fell in love on the first gangaur eve itself??
According to me it was not love at first sight or anything as such. I feel it was MV's word that made her to think about jalal when she got his glimpse in river. MV said that she will see her future in the light of Diya ,so she expected surya but saw jalal. So it was her curiosity to know who exactly was her future if not surya.
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Posted: 11 years ago
I agree completely with you, Shiningways.

Adiana my dear, you are falling in love with your own hatke theories, just like Jalal has fallen in love with Jodha, and just like him you are beginning to disregard reality because you are not ready give up on your roseate version of her.

But the truth, my dear, is that Jodha is primarily in love with herself, and she cared for Jalal as a very promising, obedient and grateful pupil who was promoting all her pet projects and doing her proud. Not as a beloved.

So here we have a woman who says she loves him, but does not even wince at his wounds. I wanted to hit her real hard, with I do not know what.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: shiningways2424


do u really think that she fell in love on the first gangaur eve itself??
According to me it was not love at first sight or anything as such. I feel it was MV's word that made her to think about jalal when she got his glimpse in river. MV said that she will see her future in the light of Diya ,so she expected surya but saw jalal. So it was her curiosity to know who exactly was her future if not surya.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Shyamala, nothing else makes sense regards this behavior. Becoz yesterday was the worst ever show of callousness - and this is definitely not Jodha - hence this is the only way she can now be explained.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree completely with you, Shiningways.

Adiana my dear, you are falling in love with your own hatke theories, just like Jalal has fallen in love with Jodha, and just like him you are beginning to disregards reality because you are not ready give up on your roseate version of her.

But the truth, my dear, is that Jodha is primarily in love with herself, and she cared for Jalal as a very promising, obedient and grateful pupil who was promoting all her pet projects and doing her proud. Not as a beloved.

So here we have a woman who says she loves him, but does not even wince at his wounds. I wanted to hit her real hard, with I do not know what.

Shyamala

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Posted: 11 years ago
Shiningways - if you remember, she reflected on what she saw once back in palace and was upset that she was unable to forget him and did not knw who he was or why she could not get over him when she was to marry another soon - now from her way of thinking this is against the Rajvanshi code - hence she did not face the truth then - and she has not faced the truth since becoz he turned out to be the most hated enemy - and how could she admit to have fallen in love with the enemy - even unknowingly - which too was against her Rajvanshiness. And hence she has been carping on Kartavya and duty forever!!!


Originally posted by: shiningways2424


do u really think that she fell in love on the first gangaur eve itself??
According to me it was not love at first sight or anything as such. I feel it was MV's word that made her to think about jalal when she got his glimpse in river. MV said that she will see her future in the light of Diya ,so she expected surya but saw jalal. So it was her curiosity to know who exactly was her future if not surya.

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Posted: 11 years ago
A couple of blows on my behalf too Shyamala ji


The entire misunderstanding was created because she wanted to save him Abul Mali's attack and she didn't even wince when BM told her jalal was attacked by AM 😡, ok she didn't want to show concern in front of Jalal by asking him and crying over is wounds ... But when BM was telling her also she stood there like an ice maiden 😡.

First they put her on a pedestal and then the Ruthlessly bring her down ... Why such extreme fluctuations in her character.





Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree completely with you, Shiningways.

Adiana my dear, you are falling in love with your own hatke theories, just like Jalal has fallen in love with Jodha, and just like him you are beginning to disregards reality because you are not ready give up on your roseate version of her.

But the truth, my dear, is that Jodha is primarily in love with herself, and she cared for Jalal as a very promising, obedient and grateful pupil who was promoting all her pet projects and doing her proud. Not as a beloved.

So here we have a woman who says she loves him, but does not even wince at his wounds. I wanted to hit her real hard, with I do not know what.

Shyamala

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

<font size="3">Shiningways - if you remember, she reflected on what she saw once back in palace and was upset that she was unable to forget him and did not knw who he was or why she could not get over him when she was to marry another soon - now from her way of thinking this is against the Rajvanshi code - hence she did not face the truth then - and she has not faced the truth since becoz he turned out to be the most hated enemy - and how could she admit to have fallen in love with the enemy - even unknowingly - which too was against her Rajvanshiness. And hence she has been carping on Kartavya and duty forever!!!</font>


yup I remeber those scenes very well and would still say that it was nothing but curiosity n effect of MV's word. You yourself told the answer of it. Jodha knew her fate was surya but she saw glimpse of jalal. N considering the fact that jodha n her family had strong belief on outcome of gangaur festival n superstitious related to it, jodha believed what MV told. So when she saw jalal she somewhere believed him to be her fate n from that point her curiosity increased to know her fate,to know who the man was. His glimpse in river left impact on her, its from no point is love at first sight. Its just the same situation in which jalal was, he saw jodha ,got mesmerised by her divine beaty, she left impact on his mind, he was engrossed in her thought but was not at all involved in love at first sight.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Love always comes across as fascination and desire first - but there is more - there is that unusual pull - and this is what happened to her - and since she was to be married to another soon and had realised that this was a different man - she burried him into the deepest recesses of her heart - it was there always - see even I do not believe in Love at first sight - but I do believe that such bonds are possible - whether we let them develop to their full potential or not is upto us - if we dont there will always be a certain feeling of 'something missing' - and we will never know what it is.

And it is becoz of this that I keep saying that both of them were handed a gift - both had felt this pull and this fascination - that bond which the Universe created btwn them - and then despite it all she gave them the opportunity to explore it and evolve - yet the one who let the light in as of now is Jalal - Jodha has to do this yet - and for that she has to first face up to the truth that she too was hooked way back when she did not know who he was and she has to face the truth that all along her attitude towards him was based on presumptions and assumptions and the reason why she was not prepared to give Them a chance was becoz she did not want to accept her assumptions and presumptions were incorrect.


Originally posted by: shiningways2424

yup I remeber those scenes very well and would still say that it was nothing but curiosity n effect of MV's word. You yourself told the answer of it. Jodha knew her fate was surya but she saw glimpse of jalal. N considering the fact that jodha n her family had strong belief on outcome of gangaur festival n superstitious related to it, jodha believed what MV told. So when she saw jalal she somewhere believed him to be her fate n from that point her curiosity increased to know her fate,to know who the man was. His glimpse in river left impact on her, its from no point is love at first sight. Its just the same situation in which jalal was, he saw jodha ,got mesmerised by her divine beaty, she left impact on his mind, he was engrossed in her thought but was not at all involved in love at first sight.

Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago

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