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Posted: 11 years ago
I am sorry but I am starting to lose faith in Abhay's historical ability. Every time anything unsual happens in the serial, Abhay is there to give corroborating evidence usually from books that I have never heard of and neither has any serious historian and records that no one can access.

I believe that most of the evidence that he presents is true, but sometimes I wonder, like in this Surjamal case.
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ Donjas

I am posting what i get . I do NOT know if someone else has also read this and can support me. Some events do appear too much over the top. But, if they happened then...?... 😊



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Bikaner House in Rajasthan is the BEST place for research. All Books i say are present there.😊
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@donjas , a similar forum member also mentioned this.

Here is the link

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3960599&TPN=112
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Donjas

I am sorry but I am starting to lose faith in Abhay's historical ability. Every time anything unsual happens in the serial, Abhay is there to give corroborating evidence usually from books that I have never heard of and neither has any serious historian and records that no one can access.

I believe that most of the evidence that he presents is true, but sometimes I wonder, like in this Surjamal case.

I disagree with your comment...I have seen Abhay only supporting the tracks witch are historically accurate...many a times he has told us abt wrong tracks...even now he has said that Jo never went to Amer and serial and movie are showing wrong things...during shivani track also he opposed...

Not just that he also gives his source of references...Probably you dont know that there are many reachers and ppl extremely well knowledable in history ...They all support him...

Anyway each to his own...
Edited by elasingh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

@ Donjas

I am posting what i get . I do NOT know if someone else has also read this and can support me. Some events do appear too much over the top. But, if they happened then...?... 😊



Edit:
Bikaner House in Rajasthan is the BEST place for research. All Books i say are present there.😊



I am not doubting your ability, you have spent many hours and a lot of effort to ferret facts lost in history for the enjoyment of all in this forum. I respect you and thank you for that.

But, you are starting to depend too much on unreliable sources. A "tattered book written in Persian" is being used too many times as a source in your writings. So, to ensure that people continue to hold as the gospel all the other wonderful historical facts that you have found out, you must be absolutely sure that what you write comes from impeccable sources, before you make any claims.



Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Donjas



I am not doubting your ability, you have spent many hours and a lot of effort to ferret facts lost in history for the enjoyment of all in this forum. I respect you and thank you for that.

But, you are starting to depend too much on unreliable sources. A "tattered book written in Persian" is being used too many times as a source in your writings. So, to ensure that people continue to hold as the gospel all the other wonderful historical facts that you have found out, you must be absolutely sure that what you write comes from impeccable sources, before you make any claims.



Someone has posted a link above...Please see it dear...
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Posted: 11 years ago
This is absolutely strange information that suja had entered in jalal's harem genuinely!!
I m not definitely questioning on the credibility of the source of Abhay where as i have quite little learning abt the mughal history before him but phir vi ajeeb lagra rahai to know suja showed gut to enter in jalal's harem that also in hidden way just for meeting with jodha!? Guilelessly, was it happened?
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Posted: 11 years ago
There are many records available in private hands ,archives, libraries and many places that only some researchers or writers of books access so I don't disbelieve anything myself being from a research background and seen many rare and historical documents and also when something we see or someone asks we try and find that information I read lot of Abhay's posts and don't find anything wrong. I am from Hyderabad and sometimes some unexpected persons try to bring very rare handwritten documents in private hands who want to sell them but don't relieve their source
I do think Abhay he/she is a genuine person with lot of contacts and also his postsreflect them


looks like in a hurry the last line I had posted opposite to what I wanted to post so edited it😳
Edited by PutijaChalhov - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii

This is absolutely strange information that suja had entered in jalal's harem genuinely!!
I m not definitely questioning on the credibility of the source of Abhay where as i have quite little learning abt the mughal history before him but phir vi ajeeb lagra rahai to know suja showed gut to enter in jalal's harem that also in hidden way just for meeting with jodha!? Guilelessly, was it happened?

someone has posted the link and I have read it...plz try...and why do you think it cant happen? It was very easy to enter agra fort...and after Atgah's murder AK 's march inside the harem is a proof of it...
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Posted: 11 years ago
I am sure this information about Sujamal can be available in Rajasthan records archives specially all the royal families who stay on the right side of people in power their records were not spoiled or snatched away whether they were Moghuls britishers etc.

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