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sonia_1

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Posted: 11 years ago

#291

Originally posted by: history_geek

I have answered this before . Quoting again. 😊

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Originally posted by elasingh

Abhay inside Sunahara Mahel lord Radha and Krishna's painting...For you only...given below...

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3976323/fateh-pur-sikari-and-jos-tomb?pn=5

Originally posted by history_geek
m using mobile. So cant write more. But when i am back on my laptop. I will write as much i know about every picture you will post.

This Sunehra Makan or Golden House had beautiful murals and GOLD PAINTINGS. Their is a pavillion on top of this structure.

In the excavation/restoration done by Archeological Survey of India in 1925, around this building was found stone eaves/rallings supported on heavy brackets. These were carved and had following scenes - One scene showed Lord Rama attended by Hanuman, another had a pair of geese, and many other imagery inspired by Hindu art.

It was in Gold hence called Golden Makan. Thnx for these Radha - Krishna paintings. This house is also called Marium ka Makan. It stands south - east of Panch Mahal. I remember this right now. Will add more.

A BIG thanx. Seeing something, which i have read, in pictures is very soothing.

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These are pics of Sunahara Makan / Golden House / Mariam ka Makan. 😊

Below is the ceiling..

Another painting on Ceiling

There is a pavillion on top of this building.

Another painting on ceiling

Another ceiling painting

A small room in this structure was used as a worship place. This is the area, below.

Note :: The paintings were in GOLD..!!!!..

Still so gorgeous 👍🏼

Thanks Abhay 😊

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DearZindagi12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#292

Originally posted by: Pals2411
Hmm... Now this is interesting/confusing. Ruq hojra with Hindu architecture and paintings too😕 They say MUZ was not Jodha during her lifetime and then we have Jodha palace, when we already have Mariam Makan, Sunehra palace in the same fort. Also summer/winter palaces are there. Sorry, if I sound in doubt, but I am actually confused on why so many palaces in the same place😕 The confusion is more so because when I read a guide on FS (which spoke about structures in FS and to whom it belonged) it gave a somewhat different picture.🥱 Only the real Akbar-Jodha and others at that time, could really tell who lived where, at which period and who used it after them.

Abhay --- Thanks a lot for some wonderful Akbar mausoleum pictures. Is it the same one that Ela covered last time (I mean Akbar tomb)? Your historic details are a great addition to the pictures, as they give a great insight into them.

And again, what is this🥱 Suju entered harem to meet HK🥱 Jallu doubted her🥱 Now what do I say🥱 Is there any chance that during his doubt, he didn't banish her but avoided her (due to anger) and this matter was kept private and never made to the books🥱

So many questions, so many doubts. Kash we could get an interview with real JA-JO

Kash ek time machine hota to hum sab 15th century main chale jate...jokes apart we were making fun of cv's n jalal's spy network and agra's secutiry that any one cud get into agra mahal..but this is d bitter truth..guess akbar had the worst spy network n secutiy team n real also..that's y so many attacks on him and this benazir and sujamal as KS also...though he is considered to be d greatest king but wen it comes to relationships noone was loyal to him expect MUZ...thats y he loved her so much..we should appreciate ekta for this..she is showing what happd in history.. once again thanks abahy for taking such efforts...we all thought this KS track is just a fiction...

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DearZindagi12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#293

thanka ela for lovely pics...for me now fathepur is nothing but JA n thr love story

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#294

Originally posted by: Pals2411

Hmm... Now this is interesting/confusing. Ruq hojra with Hindu architecture and paintings too😕 They say MUZ was not Jodha during her lifetime and then we have Jodha palace, when we already have Mariam Makan, Sunehra palace in the same fort. Also summer/winter palaces are there. Sorry, if I sound in doubt, but I am actually confused on why so many palaces in the same place.😕 The confusion is more so because when I read a guide on FS (which spoke about structures in FS and to whom it belonged) it gave a somewhat different picture.🥱 Only the real Akbar-Jodha and others at that time, could really tell who lived where, at which period and who used it after them.
The guide which you are telling says that Akbar built that MAIN MUZ palace for his daughter in law.😡😕🤣 ROFL..Akbar's DIL came after 1586 and FS was abandoned around 1584. 😉 (though some minor additions were made, but the royalty vacated that place somewhat.😊) Then Why will Akbar build that MUZ Palace for his DIL.?.🤣..Why are you getting confused.?.😆..BTW, People EVEN say that FS construction started after Salim's birth in 1569. But even the inscriptions on the structures of FS tell a different story.😆 When YOU can get REAL evidences, then why are you confused. 😉...
See this link: 104141721 ..
Did You notice in this LINK, when DID FS construction started.?. And what all people say.?.😉

ALL YOU need is START your OWn research and find yourself.😃

Abhay --- Thanks a lot for some wonderful Akbar mausoleum pictures. Is it the same one that Ela covered last time (I mean Akbar tomb)? Your historic details are a great addition to the pictures, as they give a great insight into them. Welcome. Some pics are same TYPE rest are different.

And again, what is this🥱 Suju entered harem to meet HK🥱 Jallu doubted her🥱 Now what do I say🥱 Is there any chance that during his doubt, he didn't banish her but avoided her (due to anger) and this matter was kept private and never made to the books🥱

Please wait for the update. I find it hard to reply to all simultaneously. 😊 NO need for getting depressed.😕

So many questions, so many doubts. Kash we could get an interview with real JA-JO
Einstein was supposed to be working on time machine when he died and left that formula imcomplete.😉

Pallavi..
I answered this doubt about Ruqs hojra MONTHS back...
I will quote that OLD post again here...Till then i am replying inline in BOLD BLUE colour.😊

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Khushi_love

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Posted: 11 years ago

#295

Thanks sooo much Ela & Abhay...this indeed is a most wonderful, beautiful & informative thread 👏

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Pallavi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#296

Originally posted by: Gem12

Kash ek time machine hota to hum sab 15th century main chale jate...jokes apart we were making fun of cv's n jalal's spy network and agra's secutiry that any one cud get into agra mahal..but this is d bitter truth..guess akbar had the worst spy network n secutiy team n real also..that's y so many attacks on him and this benazir and sujamal as KS also...though he is considered to be d greatest king but wen it comes to relationships noone was loyal to him expect MUZ...thats y he loved her so much..we should appreciate ekta for this..she is showing what happd in history.. once again thanks abahy for taking such efforts...we all thought this KS track is just a fiction...

Abhay --- Thanks for clearing that Mariam Makan & Sunehra(Golden) Palace are the same😊

Yes, I agree Gem. This history is not even 500 years old. We have the historical constructions in place too. But its details has been deliberately damaged/destroyed/altered in such a way that despite the constructions we are not entirely convinced of whom it belonged too. Way too much wrong info has made its way, the reason why many are misinformed and only a few have access to the actual facts (Abhay thanks for enlightening us).

Attacks (Vishkanya entering harem), Suju (as KS) entering harem are big security lapses. I thought JA was exaggerating it. Abhi aur kya bolu Harem seems to be an easy entry point for them

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Ela Singh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#297

Thank you Abhay ...

Btw you have posted fantastic pic of Sunahara makaan...They are old pic as paint is still quite dark but no more...I could not take pic from outside due to blazing sun...

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Pallavi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#298

Originally posted by: history_geek

Pallavi..
I answered this doubt about Ruqs hojra MONTHS back...
I will quote that OLD post again here...Till then i am replying inline in BOLD BLUE colour.😊

Thanks for your valuable comments Abhay. Most of my doubts are cleared now😛 But I need to find the person who started this saying that if you sit at height it signifies royalty😆 The bed in his bedroom is at height. What if there is a sudden attack. Bechara Akbar had to literally jump then😆 You are right about the guide thing that says Jodha Palace was built for DIL Now what do I say. When we have literally no access to the right info and even when published (I think government) guide (booklet) says the same, we tend to believe them😡😡

Waiting for your information... A big THANKS again for clearing most of my doubts.😃😃

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#299

@ Pallavi.

Posting this for you. This is my Old comment. 😊

Link ::
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/101425664

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1.

Buland Darwaza contains, an inscription dated 1601 which announces the victory of Akbar over Khandesh, over the central arch, to the right. This inscription is partly in Arabic and partly in Persian. So, "some historians😆" feel that this was built in 1601.

But, if you read the Muntakhab-ut-Tawarikh by Badayuni, then he has mentioned that Akbar after the victory of Gujarat in 1572-73, erected this big Darwaza.😕

(This book contains Akbar's history till about 1594...So, you see this was written before 1601, and mentions Buland Darwaza.)

Why i remember this is because, Badayuni has praised Akbar for killing infidels.🤢

(Did not want to write all this, but just to PROVE that this was erected in 1570's.😕.)

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That palace or kitchen does not stands in mardana section.
See this map..

The thing which says "MIRIAM". Near that you have kitchen.

And, the thing which says JODHBAI, is her main palace complex.😊

And, as i said earlier, Turkish Sultana House is near Mardana..

So, here it can be easily seen that, the Tukish Sultana House, which is near ANUP TALAO (see in picture), is near Mardana section. Infact, Turkish Sultana house is on North-East of this Anup Talao, making it even more close to MALE quarters.😕

It can be easily seen that, ANUP TALAO is on one side, near MALE quarters.

And, "MIRIAM" and "JODHBAI" structures are on another side..

Infact that Daftar Khana and Anup Talao side on right can be treated as Mardana section.

And, the other complex of MIRIAM, JODHBAI,etc. on left can be roughly taken as Zanana.

Also, if you can visualize then, bottom of Anup Talao, is a small rectangular box. That is location of Akbar's khawabgah. And, from here to "JODHBAI", structure there was a covered passage, connecting JODHBAI palace complex to Akbar's khawabgah.😊

Now, what has been mentioned in ASI archives is that, till FEW YEARS BACK, that passage was there. But, recently they have removed it, during some excavation in 1999-2000.

Note:
Miriam = Sunahra Makan.
Jodhbai Structure = MUZ palace complex.

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3.

Ibadat Khana was used for debates. But, Turkish Sultana house was also used as an important religious place, and explicit documentation is given in chronicles, and also, it was used for repose purposes. Biggest thing is it's location close to Mardana quarters.😕

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Hope this much, dispels any doubt ..!..

Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago