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Posted: 11 years ago

Mansi please help me understand this sujamal better.

He join hands with SD to fight against Amer to get the thrown. And Suryabhan who was supposed to get married to Jodha dies in that. Ok agreed that Sujamal was not directly involved in Suryabhan death, but still SD won the war because of Sujamal right.

What if one of Jodha's brothers was killed. Well Bharmal should have given the thrown to Sujamal which didn't happen. Both are at fault here.

What I am trying to understand is, he fought against his own relatives, against Jodha's brother and father for the thrown. Now what has changed that he is risking his life to save Jodha's suhag?

Does it mean Jodha's husband is more important than her brothers.. or is it because he is shehenshah?

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Joja

Shobhit, even I felt Jodha meeting Sujamal for the second time was absolute waste and more drama.
It absolutely served no purpose and why did he call her, just to tell Bye we wont meet again but I will be here?
She is wife of Shehenshah and cant come hiding in the night just to say bye... She will be worried about him i know, but he too must have thought if at all anyone sees what will happen to her ?


Exactly! Jodha always does what she feels is right without caring about anything. And this time Maham has taken heavy advantage of this fact. The first meeting was OK but the second and third visits did not seem not meaningful at all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ Mansi : I understand that but if Jodha tells Jalal that she went to meet Sujamal secretly because she believes he is innocent and so dont want him to get arrested yet till he proves his innocence , then Jalal and Jodha might hv had an argument on it but at least he would hv not doubted her of cheating on him 🤔

Jalal everytime took Jodha into confidence whenever he spoke about Sujamal .. he felt the need to come and inform Jodha about everything related to Sujamal .. so here Jalal too hopes the same I guess 🤔

But then story wont progress to MU either .. so guess its needed more for the upcoming track ..

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Joja

Mansi please help me understand this sujamal better.

He join hands with SD to fight against Amer to get the thrown. And Suryabhan who was supposed to get married to Jodha dies in that. Ok agreed that Sujamal was not directly involved in Suryabhan death, but still SD won the war because of Sujamal right.

Sujamal was not given his right to the thrown by Jodha's father which had been expected (everyone including Jodha were expecting Bharamal will announce Sujamal as the cronwn price while the king annaounced his own son Bhagwandas as the crown prince). So like any rajvandhi he pledged to get back his rights and wage war against Amer. It was not becuse he loved them less (Jodha's brothers & father), but because he was deprived of his birth right to Amer throne.
What if one of Jodha's brothers was killed. Well Bharmal should have given the thrown to Sujamal which didn't happen. Both are at fault here.
When they get into teh war field they will forget who was fighting against them, be it father or son, they will traethem as their enemies and fight. They will not care what if they died. That was the very advise Lord Krishna gave to Arjun in the form of Bhagawadgeetha. Even Pandavas faught against their own cousins and also the great grand father and of all their own Guru Dronacharya. That is teh same thing even Jalal told Jodha wheh Jodha talked about Sujamal's promise to her about not killing Jalal.😊

What I am trying to understand is, he fought against his own relatives, against Jodha's brother and father for the thrown. Now what has changed that he is risking his life to save Jodha's suhag?

What he did in teh war was his kshathriya Dharma, as a rajvanshi, he faught for his rights, here he has given his words to Jodha to keep her suhagan for ever. So as a brother, he will try to keep that word till he has his life in him. Infact he had even argued with Sharif when he killed SuryaBanu from behind and later when he beheaded him.
Does it mean Jodha's husband is more important than her brothers.. or is it because he is shehenshah?
It is not only Sujamal, it could be any brother, he will do teh same thing that is save his sister's husband. No, not because he is Shehenshah.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@ Mansi : I understand that but if Jodha tells Jalal that she went to meet Sujamal secretly because she believes he is innocent and so dont want him to get arrested yet till he proves his innocence , then Jalal and Jodha might hv had an argument on it but at least he would hv not doubted her of cheating on him 🤔

Jalal everytime took Jodha into confidence whenever he spoke about Sujamal .. he felt the need to come and inform Jodha about everything related to Sujamal .. so here Jalal too hopes the same I guess 🤔

But then story wont progress to MU either .. so guess its needed more for the upcoming track ..



i agree with u😕
jodha should have trusted jalal regarding sujamal
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra



but we should think why a person speaking lie, if she speaks truth, then brother &husband life will be danger,if they both got some major problem, then what will do truth;;;;;;;
its not a lie, its calls situation BLANCING what time demanding?. when situations clear both will know automatically.








Ms Rimaforever,

I read your comments and appriciate that you shared your views with us . We read it in sentence form. Very Interesting. Now, I request you to please express you views again in a yes/ no format to help understand your thought process better. Thanks in advance.

The show is based on events that happened in 16th century and not Satyug or even Treta yug when lying or hiding facts was unheard of ...yes/ no
The characters we are talking about are homo sapiens not angels from heaven...yes/ no
Lying is an integral part of human nature and there is not a single homo sapien on planet earth who hasn't lied or hidden the facts for a good or bad reason...yes/ no
Have you heard of the term ' lesser of two evils'...yes/ no
Letting your husband get murdered when you could have saved his life is a bigger sin than lying...yes/no
Is it a crime to try and save your siblings life...yes/no
Was it Sujamal who tried to assassinate Jalal...yes/no
Sujamal is wrongly accused of trying to assasinate Jalal because of SD's lies...yes/no
Agra is a conspiracy hub...yes/no
It is possible that the 'Peeth ke peeche waar' is also part of a conspiracy by an anti Jodha/ anti Sujamal or anti Rajvanshi person in Agra...yes/ no
Does Jodha know that Sujamal did not/ can not/ will not hurt her husband...yes/ no
Sujamal saved Jalal's life during the Jashan ...yes/ no
Sujamal is again trying to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Sujamal is an excellent warrior and good at the art of disguise and can easily get out of Agra by fooling the highly incompetent and inefffective Agra spy/ security network...yes/no
He decided to stay back to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Jodha is trying to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Both Sujamal and Jodha are endangering their own lives to save Jalal...yes/no
Did Jalal issue a ' wanted dead or alive' Farman against Sujamal...yes/no
Jalal refused to budge on his stand on Sujamal when Jodha tried to tell him about Sujamal's battlefield principles...yes/ no
Jalal firmly told Jodha that he will not discuss Sujamal's matter with her...yes/no
Has Jalal given Jodha any impression that he will not kill Sujamal if he finds him...yes/no
Has Jalal take the Farman back or removed the ' dead' clause from it, knowing fully well that Jodha will be completely devastated by her brothers murder...yes/ no
Is Sujamal justified in worrying about his litte sister and the punishment she may be given if her husband hears about her meeting an ' enemy' secretly...yes/ no
While Sujamal spends the day trying to get info on the conspirators, his information will not be of any help unless he gives it to jodha...yes/ no
He tried giving the info to Atgah Khan which didn't help...yes/ no
Since the conspirator is someone close to Jalal, so from Sujamal's prespective, Jodha is the only person close to Jalal who can be trusted...yes/ no
Since Alexander Graham bell did not invent telephone till the late 1800's, so the only way of giving Jodha an update is by meeting her in person( don't even think about saying the ' letter' word...yes/no
When he asked Jodha to meet him on day 3, did he know that his search will not provide any results...yes/no
Did you make a post bashing Jodha for her action when she went to comfort BB against Jalal's orders and ? Lied/ hide this truth from him...yes/no
Did you severely bash Jodha's act of getting help from SD in order to save Jalal's life...yes/ no



Again, please answer( if you choose to) in yes/ no format ONLY. We just read your poetry version.
Thanks and have nice day!



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Posted: 11 years ago
When it comes to war, whoever is oppsoite to them are thier enemies is what Jalal said and Rajvanshi's too think.
But Jalal never fought with his close relatives unless they attack him.
But here, sujamal started the war for the thrown is the whole point.
You goto the lengh of killling your own Uncle whose house you have spent your life and your brothers?
Krishna did mention about considering them as enemies and as Dharma when in war.
But not to start a war for thrown?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cleo12345




<div>Ms Rimaforever,

I read your comments and appriciate that you shared your views with us . We read it in sentence form. Very Interesting. Now, I request you to please express you views again in a yes/ no format to help understand your thought process better. Thanks in advance.

The show is based on events that happened in 16th century and not Satyug or even Treta yug when lying or hiding facts was unheard of ...yes/ no
The characters we are talking about are homo sapiens not angels from heaven...yes/ no
Lying is an integral part of human nature and there is not a single homo sapien on planet earth who hasn't lied or hidden the facts for a good or bad reason...yes/ no
Have you heard of the term ' lesser of two evils'...yes/ no
Letting your husband get murdered when you could have saved his life is a bigger sin than lying...yes/no
Is it a crime to try and save your siblings life...yes/no
Was it Sujamal who tried to assassinate Jalal...yes/no
Sujamal is wrongly accused of trying to assasinate Jalal because of SD's lies...yes/no
Agra is a conspiracy hub...yes/no
It is possible that the 'Peeth ke peeche waar' is also part of a conspiracy by an anti Jodha/ anti Sujamal or anti Rajvanshi person in Agra...yes/ no
Does Jodha know that Sujamal did not/ can not/ will not hurt her husband...yes/ no
Sujamal saved Jalal's life during the Jashan ...yes/ no
Sujamal is again trying to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Sujamal is an excellent warrior and good at the art of disguise and can easily get out of Agra by fooling the highly incompetent and inefffective Agra spy/ security network...yes/no
He decided to stay back to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Jodha is trying to save Jalal's life...yes/no
Both Sujamal and Jodha are endangering their own lives to save Jalal...yes/no
Did Jalal issue a ' wanted dead or alive' Farman against Sujamal...yes/no
Jalal refused to budge on his stand on Sujamal when Jodha tried to tell him about Sujamal's battlefield principles...yes/ no
Jalal firmly told Jodha that he will not discuss Sujamal's matter with her...yes/no
Has Jalal given Jodha any impression that he will not kill Sujamal if he finds him...yes/no
Has Jalal take the Farman back or removed the ' dead' clause from it, knowing fully well that Jodha will be completely devastated by her brothers murder...yes/ no
Is Sujamal justified in worrying about his litte sister and the punishment she may be given if her husband hears about her meeting an ' enemy' secretly...yes/ no
While Sujamal spends the day trying to get info on the conspirators, his information will not be of any help unless he gives it to jodha...yes/ no
He tried giving the info to Atgah Khan which didn't help...yes/ no
Since the conspirator is someone close to Jalal, so from Sujamal's prespective, Jodha is the only person close to Jalal who can be trusted...yes/ no
Since Alexander Graham bell did not invent telephone till the late 1800's, so the only way of giving Jodha an update is by meeting her in person( don't even think about saying the ' letter' word...yes/no
When he asked Jodha to meet him on day 3, did he know that his search will not provide any results...yes/no
Did you make a post bashing Jodha for her action when she went to comfort BB against Jalal's orders and ? Lied/ hide this truth from him...yes/no
Did you severely bash Jodha's act of getting help from SD in order to save Jalal's life...yes/ no



Again, please answer( if you choose to) in yes/ no format ONLY. We just read your poetry version.
Thanks and have nice day!





Great post Cleo! 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
Guys! I was just watching the promo again n from jodha's expression it seemed like she was not just sad but also shocked that he is doubting her. Do u guys think that she will misunderstand Jalal's concern for doubt on her character? If so then she will clam up even more n we will be back to square one. What do u guys think?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Guys! I was just watching the promo again n from jodha's expression it seemed like she was not just sad but also shocked that he is doubting her. Do u guys think that she will misunderstand Jalal's concern for doubt on her character? If so then she will clam up even more n we will be back to square one. What do u guys think?


i think both need sum type of shocks to be very frank. they r still in the no-touch friendship mode & this will break all the barriers. just like due to benz track on one hand jalal realized jodha's imp. whereas jodha realized she loves jalal. in this case maybe my passionate jalal will be back & this will help both jalal & jodha to confess. 😊

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