Take 5: A true countdown on March 18th; view on new promo on pg 13 - Page 13

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Gem 👏

Thank you, super writing.

Yes Jalal ALWAYS ASKED FOR PROOF, even fake p track he asked SB and when she said he believed.

VERY TRUE about Jo vishpaan when she said I might not open my eyes and alvida and all he stood there like a statue (perfect word) with anger on his face, like Jo was doing some natak!

When it comes to MA & Ruk he never needs proof. Earlier he DID NOT KNOW JO now HE DOES.

So NOW HOW HE BEHAVES IS TO BE SEEN. I wrote also angry upset hurt pain everything totally agree - JALAL ALSO HAS A BRAIN NA? EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING - why won't he think Jo is meeting Sujamal cos Jalal keeps saying Suj is in Agra and he is from Amer!

PLUS NOT TO FORGET FOR HIS PRECIOUS RUKAYYA Jalal did not let her truth come out in Murti kand not did call DEK to discuss it.

So let us see what Jodha gets, if he again brings DEK and LETS MA & Ruk insult Jo THEN I WILL GET UPSET.

In PRIVATE do whatever, he can draw his sword and shout and all I am ok his anger is ok but NOT DOUBTING HER CHARACTER OR INSULTS IN PUBLIC

She has done LOT for him for his sister for his life and here too she will go to meet Sujamal again cos she learnt Jalal has enemy inside and even Suj asks her to find him

If Jodha does something good on her own, she is mahan so she is criticized, if she behaves like a normal person and makes mistakes but only cos she is worried about safety of her beloved brother then she is criticized also.

Whatever Jo never seems to win!

BTW nobody minds MA lying to Jalal AND HE INSTANTLY BELIEVING HER BUT Jodha!

Originally posted by: divyavm

Maddy, thanks for posting - I think the promo shows them alone fighting it out- so I think we will get that.

Jalal needed proof before but not in the murti khaand. I think even in the promo he was asking who she was meeting- remember how he yelled at her in the fake pregnancy when he doubted her faithfulness- it was very different! I also don't think the CVs will repeat the same emotions.

The reason we don't mind MA lying is she is the villain and MA has also saved Jalal's life, let us not forget!

Originally posted by: lashy

@ Divya, Maddy, Gem

Bigger difference that that is the time factor and the nature of the relationship

How many of us have actually been in a situation where our very own God-mother or mother who brought us up has turned out to be the biggest destroyer of our lives? I'm hoping NONE.. so, suspecting a person that way is going to take a lot and this instance he did trust Jo more than MA at first...

In a way, comparisons being made between Ja-Ruqs Ja-MA and Ja-Jo itself show how quickly Jodha matters to him...because we are comparing a less than a year relationship with one of 14 years and one of 22 years...

the fact that he's inclined to believe the person who he knows for less than a year - over his two other life-time ones itself shows how much he is swayed by her!

And yes, I definitely do not want this becoming a public spectacle in any way... however, we mustn't forget that Jodha as a wife/bahu/woman/queen etc tip toeing at night alone (firstly the very act seems impossible) and this time she is also bringing upon problems and public humiliation upon herself if found out (which i genuinely hope IS NOT the case!)

Even today if a man or MIL caught his wife/her bahu tip toeing out at night to meet someone, the bahu would be in trouble..

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Well, then it is high time to start minding MA lying...she saved Jalal but did kill his children...he doesnt know that but we do. And she has been more than compensated for her Doodh ka Karz. Going by his actions , her good for nothing son deserved to be ong dead by now..Sorry, but I no longer have anything to say in her defense. They need to follow history and stop giving her longevity pills. They don't have another villian is not good enough. Please go find one from history books. Akbar had enough enemies...it should not be an impossible task...I cant believe that I am saying this but they can use their ' creative liberty' and creat a villian...but MA is becoming an eyesore now. I think Ashwini is tired too. Her acting is so monotonous now.

I don't get this...MA gets away with everything because of something good she did in the past.

Rukaiya got away with the most dispicable behavior because she is 1. His first wife 2. His 'best friend' 3. Never back stabbed him 4. Gave him siyasati advise...did I miss anything?

It is high time that all people are treated the same way and held accountable for their mistakes.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Cleo I agree with every word here.👏

I AM SICK OF MA - I feel like FF her scenes if I could, even Skanda wrote everybody has got MA fatigue😕

It is LACK OF CREATIVITY on the part of CVs that they are hanging onto a character which was only for 4 months after JJ marriage, here they are hanging onto her robe for more than a year and it seems no plan to let go of her!

I don't care what anybody else says about MA - I am SICK SICK SICK of seeing her ALWAYS GET AWAY with murders (murdering unborns in the womb😡), killing people, reminding Jalal of her dudh ka karz (🤬) and viciousness, lying, manipulations and ALWAYS getting away with it.

Can't CVs see they are making Jalal weaker due to MA - cos by letting her WIN ALWAYS they are butchering other characters😡

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Awesome post...very well written responses.

My take on the three important characters from today's episode. I have talked about Sujamal a lot in my other posts ...therefore I'll spare him today.

Jalal- I don't know what will happen but i am glad that his first instinct was to trust her and worry about her safety. I can understand his anger and disappointment in the upcoming epis( per promo) ...I don't think that he will suspect her character. Figuring out that the person she is meeting is Sujamal should not be rocket science at this point. He probably knows that of all her siblings, she was probably closest to Sujamal( I've havent seen her mention Shivani even once) !...she looked very worried about him...he noticed that more than once...she tried to defend Sujamal...and Sujamal ( per SD) is in Agra. Connecting the dots should not need Sherlock Holmes. I think Jalal will probably be upset for two reasons. One, that she is jeopardizing her safety by going out like that. A kambal does not stop her from looking like a queen. Two, she will stubbornly refuse to tell him anything. He knows that she breaks rules all the time...I guess, he is slowly learning to live with that. He also understands her obsessive compulsive behavior when it comes to helping people...she gets emotional and forgets all rules and regulations and sometimes ends up putting herself in danger. His statement ' doosron ka bhala...apna bura' in the last episode' indicates that. It would be really nice to see him get upset with her because he is worried about her. He knows that she is loyal to Sujamal, but is Sujamal loyal to her? ...he doesn't know that.

Jodha- she is in a precarious situation. I understand her need to support her brother ( I hv two very loving brothers and it is impossible to not worry about them or leave them when they need you the most). She has seen Jalal anger when he found out that his relatives were killed. She knows that Jalal is doing everything to woo her but still he refused to listen to her when she made an attempt to defend Sujamal. She knows Sujamal too. He was also her friend and Guru. She is aware of his battlefield principles. That is why she did not buy the Peeth ke peeche waar theory. Somewhere in her heart she also knows that Sujamal was wronged by her own father...and he has no real supporters but her. I can understand how dreadful it must be for her live in constant fear that sooner or later Jalal or his men will kill him. She has also fallen in love with Jalal and probably subconsciously is afraid if she'll be able to love the man who killed her beloved brother...a brother who was trying to save Jalal's life. . I don't know why but I think of Karna from Mahabharta when I see what happened to Sujamal. Two men from different eras...16th century vs dwapar yug...but both very unfortunate. I have explained in some of my previous posts that why Sujamal was not wrong in attacking Mewat...don't have to do it again.

I've read some posts where people have questioned Jodha's stand...as a Rajvanshi woman...shouldn't she just blindly support her husband. That is so not true...if you read Rajput history, there are plenty of examples where women chose truth, duty and honor over the ' Pativrata' dharm. If anyone is interested in reading more about it, please PM me and I'll send you the reference.

Mahamanga- I have some questions for Jalal... Or the CVs

1. She knew about the leaf letter but did not tell Jalal about it...why? Badi Ammi ki tarah nahin to Vazir- e- Aaliya ki tarah bata deti.

2. Jalal was attacked...Atgah sahib was attacked and she is concentrating all her energy on the Begums.

3. If she was really concerned about Jodha's safety then why did she not follow her with some guards...get that man arrested. She just wanted the scoop and then Bharkaofy Jalal.

4. What if this was some kind of a trap for Jodha( she did go to see SD in jail, the man responsible for her humiliation, because he mentioned that Jalal's life is in danger)What if the person who sent her the message( there was no name, but everyone knows that she is from Amer and Sujamal is in agra) was someone planted by Abul Mali? What if they had kidnapped or killed her? Again...why did she not tell Jalal about the letter in the morning?

Clearly, she had malice in her heart. She didn't give a damn about Jodha's safety. She quietly followed her with no guards in case if Jodha really got into trouble...so claerly her agenda was not Jodha's sfaety...so Jalal, , it is not rocket science to figure out your badi ammi's real intentions. Unfortunately, it is only Jodha and Jalal whose actions are micro dissected and then microanalyzed... They always pay a heavy price for their mistakes as well as other's mistakes. People like MA and SD ( for that matter most other people in Agra) commit one evil blunder after another and never get exposed.

Every cloud has a silver lining...we are upset about the two vachans... But that will ensure that this information remains between very few people. Imagine, if SD finds out...he'll first go and kill Sujamal as he will have a general idea about his whereabouts...then somehow, he will trap Jodha by sending a message on behalf of Sujamal. So chill! Lots of drama...but it will end well.

Originally posted by: lashy

No Mandy, I am glad for both to make mistakes...too much of goody goodiness makes for dry viewing...

Maddy but then Akbar was known to be influenced by her till she was around, right? Yeah her timescales and Jodha involvement in all this is exaggerated...

I'm fed up of her too and she's nothing but a glorified post woman causing MUs all the time...