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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: mandyg



abhay, my thread would be graced if u can add some incident read in ur research regarding his tolerance power from which we all can learn!




I am adding one incident, which has already been discussed...But adding more details..!..

Akbar granted 5 villages as a jagir on some part of which the pool of Amritsar was dug up.
And then - "Shree Harmindar Sahib / Golden Temple" was constructed there LATER.

Akbar also dined with Guru Amar Das and received a dress of honor from him.
Also, Akbar sought blessings from Guruji to pray for his success in Chittor battle by sending him a request. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post 😊

Gives a good idea about his tolerant views. Akbar was very inquisitive about religions other than his own. He held debates in his darbaar too. Interacted with brahmins, jesuits with equal ease. The Jesuits thought Akbar wanted to convert due to his interest. Claimed he kept a cross in his bedroom. But as far as the christian influence on Akbar is considered, I believe it was fairly limited. Otherwise the Din-E-Illahi would have some part of christian effect on it , as well. But it is usually considered an amalgam of Hindu and Muslim beliefs.

Regarding the 'mariam' thing, Mariam is the arabic name for Mary, the mother of Jesus. Or in the more of islamic sense, the holy mother.

The western historians claimed initially that 'Mariam' was the name of the christian wife. The logic they applied:
Mary must have been the name of the christian lady and once she converted to Islam, her name became Mariam though she still held on to her earlier faith to some extent. Thus, they tried to deduce that Mariam Zamani begam was a christian. That is where the whole confusion has started. They inferred wrong.

It is possible that Akbar did have a christian wife ('coz he had a varied amount in his harem but still this is hypothetical only)

Due this wrong assumption they started also seeing catholic symbols all around Fatehpur Sikri, which actually weren't there.
Mariam Zamani is strictly a title not a name just like Mariam Makani.



PS: There already has been a lot of discussion on this topic but couldn't resist to add my views. I know it goes a little off-topic 😕


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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: mandyg



thx kamal, now these r the acts that make a person great, and as mentioned by donjas one of the ministers refused to cover his head while entering the golden temple..now what does that tell u about this great shahenshah!..i have yet to learn a lot more from this great personality!



Well Mandy,
I am not a politically inclined person.😊...But one thing I can say is that...even if one doesn't follow a particular faith , He/she can surely at least show Respect towards it with manners..😳...
It's really a pity that our Country politicos still lag behind in such essential qualities of being a good ruler of Land.😒


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Totally Agree.!!..Adi..!!!!

Esp. points in bold... Spot On..!!..

Reading is fine...👍🏼...
But Why BELIEVE other's views BY just closing your eyes...???...😳


Read Yourself from as many original sources AND Try Joining the Dots...!!!...
And this makes reading history a wonderful JOB..!!..😊

My God! I am now going to doubt everything in history books!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well Mandy,
I am not a politically inclined person.😊...But one thing I can say is that...even if one doesn't follow a particular faith , He/she can surely at least show Respect towards it with manners..😳...
It's really a pity that our Country politicos still lag behind in such essential qualities of being a good ruler of Land.😒


Kamal
Our politics thrives on religion, reservations and communal divides.😕
It has been decades since Lord Curzon left the country. But his 'divide and rule' is still a much employed tool.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Akbar ! The great king !😊
Nice post !😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek




I am adding one incident, which has already been discussed...But adding more details..!..

Akbar granted 5 villages as a jagir on some part of which the pool of Amritsar was dug up.
And then - "Shree Harmindar Sahib / Golden Temple" was constructed there LATER.

Akbar also dined with Guru Amar Das and received a dress of honor from him.
Also, Akbar sought blessings from Guruji to pray for his success in Chittor battle by sending him a request. 😊



abhay brilliant!..now that is something more i have learnt and will cherish being a sikh myself!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg

donjas, all the documentaries that i have seen on akbar are mostly covered by Caucasians and they speak so highly of him that its enough to bring tears into anybody's eyes!

so true Mandy.. even now i have tears seeing and reading about him.
those who were in his period and associated with him or even seen him.. they are really lucky..
I so much feel now ki kaash there is a time machine and i just go to his period to just see him once 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg



i completely agree with you on that! and their had work in getting to the roots of the story shows..its interesting how they went to various places related to akbar and interviewed people around and also found some original books and some descendants of ghazni in pakistan..indeed commendable!

Mandy, i have read that in India monuments related to him (I guess not just his, but almost all) is not maintained well.. BBC documentary i guess shows the place where Akbar was declared as emperor /crowned... that place is not maintained at all... Doesnt it has so much value..
Donno when India will understand the importance of these places.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Kamal

Our politics thrives on religion, reservations and communal divides.😕
It has been decades since Lord Curzon left the country. But his 'divide and rule' is still a much employed tool.




I agree with you..!!...@bold...A century passed by..!!..🥱


Before i start i declare i am NOT supporting (Lord) Curzon.😆


1. He provided financial support and institutional autonomy to the Archaeological Survey of India.
2. He passed the Conservation of Ancient Monuments Act.
3. He sanctioned Rs. 1 Lacs(110 years back😕), for conservation of Ajanta and Ellora Caves in Maharashtra and personally visited them.
4. He created the post of Director General of Archaeological Survey of India.
5. He introduced a course of Epigraphy in Indian Universities.


He was interested in Indian monuments. So he did this..!..Also, some revenue came through it.


Note :
I am ONLY sharing some info, not proving him to be a saint..!.. 😕
He did commit greatest BLUNDERs in Indian History.(leave it.🥱)



BTW, Policy of Divide n Rule flourished even before dating back to Romans - Divide eT Empera.
And, Curzon got this IDEA from a British MP named Elphinstone.



He had some connection with Akbar and MUZ also.😲 Will write later on my thread.😉
I know i should not bring "her" here. But can't resist. Since this topic started. 😆

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