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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi


Thank you Diksha.

But what is that bad news you gave that Mansi will not post for few days? How to survive without her review?



Mansi will post but small takes...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



Mansi will post but small takes...

Thanks for relieving me from the unhappiness😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
wonderful post jaya


IT makes all the of us who have been watching the show from day 1 ponder and think about how and where are jalal-jodha-ruqu heading.

You have put up some excellent points rather may be true facts which might have even existed in those times and i also liked mansi's answers . To love someone you have to love yourself too and tht is what makes things all the very more beautiful and when love comes with companionship and a future tht is prosperous and forward looking , it becomes all the more difficult to curb tht natural feeling of being with the one such person.


Jalal is on his way to figure this out and when time comes he would make ruqu understand the same too however i would really want jodha to realize her love on her own and not after ruqu' consent . The flow of love should not based on a third party's consent and that is wht i would want to see.


Great discussion everyone !!

Keep writing such beautiful pieces jaya ...

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Kashi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ginco

wonderful post jaya


IT makes all the of us who have been watching the show from day 1 ponder and think about how and where are jalal-jodha-ruqu heading.

You have put up some excellent points rather may be true facts which might have even existed in those times and i also liked mansi's answers . To love someone you have to love yourself too and tht is what makes things all the very more beautiful and when love comes with companionship and a future tht is prosperous and forward looking , it becomes all the more difficult to curb tht natural feeling of being with the one such person.


Jalal is on his way to figure this out and when time comes he would make ruqu understand the same too however i would really want jodha to realize her love on her own and not after ruqu' consent . The flow of love should not based on a third party's consent and that is wht i would want to see.


Great discussion everyone !!

Keep writing such beautiful pieces jaya ...

Love
Kashi

The fact is both Jalal & Jodha have realized they have some special feelings for each other and are reluctant to name it or to accpet it to themselves. Though both will have some hindrance thinking about ruqu, will overcome the same. The way Jodha is forming & firming herself, she will not hurt Jalal by distancing him and deneying him his lawful rights just to save Ruqu the heart break. But at the same time, she might try to put some intelligence to Ruqu that by both keeping Jalal at bay will result in one more fatal entry to the Harem. If Jodha can think of the pain of her praja, how can she ignore the pain of their king? At least to keep the praja happy by giving them their long pending request, a waaris to the sultanate, she will get along with Jalal but with wholeheartedly, not on compulsion.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35
You rock dear! Loved ur writing style!! 👍🏼

Thank you so much for this post!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-

You rock dear! Loved ur writing style!! 👍🏼

Thank you so much for this post!

Thank you so much for reading and liking it 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37
Jaya wonderful post on Jalaal-Jodha-Ruqu...

Till now Ruqu got all the attention & whole time from his friend and hubby Jalaal...He liked her the way she being powerful and dominating other wives, he is the same till JO friendship...

How can Ruqu know that now Jalaal loves JO, especially just before in BEN track he is the one who insulted, hurted & wanted to see pain in JO because of rejection... Jalaal couldn't bear the pain of rejection & wanted to give it back to Jodha...

Now I could see similar pain in Ruqu, the same pain of distance, ignorance , jealous instead of giving or share her pain with Jalaal, she is hitting the innocent soul JO who is indirectly becoming the victim of pain of jealousy of Ruqu...

Ruqu is seeing change in Jalaal, but she is not figuring that it's love...May be she loves him & doesn't want to think that way. or may be she didn't believe in love or still believe Jalaal can't love anyone as he doesn't have a heart or may be she feels that jalaal is attracted to JO beauty that's why he is running after her..Ruqu knows till now Jalaal didn't get Jodha physically, she pointed that same in Shivani elope track that's why Jalaal is driving towards JO... Ruqu wants clearly hear from Jalaal that what his relationship with JO now , is she a friend, a wife just like her or much more...

She is seeing jalaal showing more faith & confidence in JO... Till the time he comes or she herself clear what she is bothering or what he wants their relationship is only breaking... JO is not involved, its purely Ruqlal relationship, but unknowingly JO will be going to face the wrath of Ruqu for coming between them...

First Ruqu should understand want she wants in their Ruqlal relationship not spelling about JO, she can ask him anything & share with him and also be ready to hear if jalaal openly shares about his feelings on JO even if he says " HE LOVES JO' or now " JO is important want to spend much more time with her " ...

Will she able to ready to hear & understand the honest confession from the a friend & a husband ? Will she change then ? or will she continue to be jealous of JO & try to eliminate from his life ?

I think now either Jalaal or Ruqu herself should talk about relationship. Even though till now Jalaal only shared & assured her about their relationship & friendship, why can't for a change Ruqu herself make a move to ask & share her insecurities with her childhood friend & hubby openly, why wait till he explain ?

Just want Jalaal clear & once for all share & tell Ruqu that now he wants JO , and now both Ruqu & Jo are important to him like two eyes, he can't loose anyone will be happy if both understand & adjust with each other in his life..
Edited by abhi786 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: abhi786

Jaya wonderful post on Jalaal-Jodha-Ruqu...

Till now Ruqu got all the attention & whole time from his friend and hubby Jalaal...He liked her the way she being powerful and dominating other wives, he is the same till JO friendship...

How can Ruqu know that now Jalaal loves JO, especially just before in BEN track he is the one who insulted, hurted & wanted to see pain in JO because of rejection... Jalaal couldn't bear the pain of rejection & wanted to give it back to Jodha...

Now I could see similar pain in Ruqu, the same pain of distance, ignorance , jealous instead of giving or share her pain with Jalaal, she is hitting the innocent soul JO who is indirectly becoming the victim of pain of jealousy of Ruqu...

Ruqu is seeing change in Jalaal, but she is not figuring that it's love...May be she loves him & doesn't want to think that way. or may be she didn't believe in love or still believe Jalaal can't love anyone as he doesn't have a heart or may be she feels that jalaal is attracted to JO beauty that's why he is running after her..Ruqu knows till now Jalaal didn't get Jodha physically, she pointed that same in Shivani elope track that's why Jalaal is driving towards JO... Ruqu wants clearly hear from Jalaal that what his relationship with JO now , is she a friend, a wife just like her or much more...

She is seeing jalaal showing more faith & confidence in JO... Till the time he comes or she herself clear what she is bothering or what he wants their relationship is only breaking... JO is not involved, its purely Ruqlal relationship, but unknowingly JO will be going to face the wrath of Ruqu for coming between them...

First Ruqu should understand want she wants in their Ruqlal relationship not spelling about JO, she can ask him anything & share with him and also be ready to hear if jalaal openly shares about his feelings on JO even if he says " HE LOVES JO' or now " JO is important want to spend much more time with her " ...

Will she able to ready to hear & understand the honest confession from the a friend & a husband ? Will she change then ? or will she continue to be jealous of JO & try to eliminate from his life ?

I think now either Jalaal or Ruqu herself should talk about relationship. Even though till now Jalaal only shared & assured her about their relationship & friendship, why can't for a change Ruqu herself make a move to ask & share her insecurities with her childhood friend & hubby openly, why wait till he explain ?

Just want Jalaal clear & once for all share & tell Ruqu that now he wants JO , and now both Ruqu & Jo are important to him like two eyes, he can't loose anyone will be happy if both understand & adjust with each other in his life..

Yes Abhi, Ruqu loves Jalal in her own way that she herself doesn't know what to call it. That is the reason she keeps telling every one that she rules on Jalal's mind as he doesn't have an heart. Had she realized Jalal has heart, even she would have realized what she feels is love for Jalal. Since she was always presented with one or the other Beum of Jalal (new entry to Harem) constantly, she was used to having Jalal with otehr Begums (like we get used to our headache) and never bothered to feel jealous as Jalal never spared those ladies a second chance and always used to pay her his first visit. When one is provided with all the necessity, why will she think of scarcity, so she had never thought a day might come when she had to wait for Jalal's attention and Jalal might give someone else priority, least she thought was with Jodha as Jalal always berated Jodha with Ruquiya. So when she realizede Jalal is changing for good ( for sure and she is left back) her frustration is flowing towards Jodha as Ruqu can never find fault in Jalal.
It is the duty of her friend, Husband & teh ruler to uprise Ruquaya on teh current scenario and how she nneds to gear up to stay with them in the race. If he doesn't do that, then it is his failure as a friend & husband.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Yes Abhi, Ruqu loves Jalal in her own way that she herself doesn't know what to call it. That is the reason she keeps telling every one that she rules on Jalal's mind as he doesn't have an heart. Had she realized Jalal has heart, even she would have realized what she feels is love for Jalal. Since she was always presented with one or the other Beum of Jalal (new entry to Harem) constantly, she was used to having Jalal with otehr Begums (like we get used to our headache) and never bothered to feel jealous as Jalal never spared those ladies a second chance and always used to pay her his first visit. When one is provided with all the necessity, why will she think of scarcity, so she had never thought a day might come when she had to wait for Jalal's attention and Jalal might give someone else priority, least she thought was with Jodha as Jalal always berated Jodha with Ruquiya. So when she realizede Jalal is changing for good ( for sure and she is left back) her frustration is flowing towards Jodha as Ruqu can never find fault in Jalal.

It is the duty of her friend, Husband & teh ruler to uprise Ruquaya on teh current scenario and how she nneds to gear up to stay with them in the race. If he doesn't do that, then it is his failure as a friend & husband.



But Jaya why Jalaal had to assure her again & again... He has been waiting to hear that she is possessive of her husband, he waited for a long to hear from Ruqu that she loves the husband, more than a friend & Shahansha... But Ruqu failed as a wife to give him emotional bonding which he waited for...

Till now Ruqu got everything without any competition, all the attention from Jalaal but now she has to compete for Jalaal , while JO is also a begum...Why can't she competing fairly with JO especially when knows Jalaal more... Why she is wasting on JO trying to degrade her ?

Why can't she understand that JO & salima & other begums have same right on Jalaal... Ruqu is not fighting for her love, but only to get JJ apart ?

Ruqu taken Jalaal for granted and thought she is the one who will rule Jalaal mind & this pride has got over her head...But now when she is seeing that Jalaal standing with JO in BB godhbharai, boat ride, she is not bearing to face the truth...

Jalaal always understood Ruqu, but now he is angry that she didn't even share any of her fears nor fight against JO directly... Jalaal now understood that Ruqu left Haram as she wants JO buzy so that JJ won't meet much...Especially Shikiri trip he saw Ruqu came only to keep JJ apart & now also she is doing that which Jalaal is not liking...

First ruqu has to understood why she is feeling jealous of JO as she loves Jalaal or Jalaal giving more importance to JO ? It's time for Ruqu to face the reality & changed Jalaal.. Is she ready to face it, even if Jalaal comfort her ?
Edited by abhi786 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786



But Jaya why Jalaal had to assure her again & again... He has been waiting to hear that she is possessive of her husband, he waited for a long to hear from Ruqu that she loves the husband, more than a friend & Shahansha... But Ruqu failed as a wife to give him emotional bonding which he waited for...

Till now Ruqu got everything without any competition, all the attention from Jalaal but now she has to compete for Jalaal , while JO is also a begum...Why can't she competing fairly with JO especially when knows Jalaal more... Why she is wasting on JO trying to degrade her ?

Why can't she understand that JO & salima & other begums have same right on Jalaal... Ruqu is not fighting for her love, but only to get JJ apart ?

Ruqu taken Jalaal for granted and thought she is the one who will rule Jalaal mind & this pride has got over her head...But now when she is seeing that Jalaal standing with JO in BB godhbharai, boat ride, she is not bearing to face the truth...

Jalaal always understood Ruqu, but now he is angry that she didn't even share any of her fears nor fight against JO directly... Jalaal now understood that Ruqu left Haram as she wants JO buzy so that JJ won't meet much...Especially Shikiri trip he saw Ruqu came only to keep JJ apart & now also she is doing that which Jalaal is not liking...

First ruqu has to understood why she is feeling jealous of JO as she loves Jalaal or Jalaal giving more importance to JO ? It's time for Ruqu to face the reality & changed Jalaal.. Is she ready to face it, even if Jalaal comfort her ?


Abhi, every one has a limitation of understanding and for Ruqu nobody made her think beyond her circle which includes only Ruqu & Jalal. Even Jalal was like that had no problems with her behavior, demands, bossing over him etc. and even he was encouraging them and enjoying them. Suddenly he found a diversion and been attracted by Jodha (his initial attraction was her external beauty only) and to get close to her he started listening to her and in that process realized so many new things such as getting on with his citizens, be one among them, love them and get that back in hundred folds etc. But initially even he had refused to believe that a king needs to be loved by his praja and not demand respect by putting the sword on the neck. He told earlier to Jodha that the praja should be afraid of the king and his punishments etc.

Had it been the role reversal and had Ruqu got a jeevansathi who changed her think process and if she had expected Jalal to get used to him and his nature, would he have accepted it easily. The thing Jalal opted the changes open heartedly wit open eyes because he knew in his subconscious that hi sjOdha Begum likes him to change. Why will ruqaiya like that change which pulled her friend and husband away from her on her own will? If Jalal was a true friend to Ruqu, the he has to take his friend along with him ( ups or downs of life). But as of now he is only finding fault in all those things Ruqu is doing but he is not realizing or analyzing the fact, that why she is doing like that or why she is behaving like that.

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