Jodha Akbar - Does one need to be taught to improve and evolve??? - Page 5

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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mandy beautifully written.

Rukayya is only looking at Jodha, she is NOT looking and thinking about Jalal. All her actions are for Jodha to be separated from Jalal.

Why is Rukayya NOT looking at Jalal. If there is one thing Jalal loves and Rukayya knows it fully is magnanimity, when she refused his gift and asked him to give to SB and Rahim instead he was instantly appreciative. He hates her pettiness but that is what she is showing him all the time. Her reasons for wanting to be with him are because then she can keep him away from Jodha, not for him or her. Jalal is finally seeing her taking away the pampered indulgent glassed he had on!

As long as Rukayya thinks SHE has to and wants to control how Jalal and Jodha relationship is progressing and drive them apart she is not going to change, it is her own fault.



maddy, thx😊..that is why i wrote in the last line that now is the time for her to evolve as now she is in the new surroundings..this man she knew once is new and evolved in jodha's love..this is a very critical time where she will have to understand the delicacy of the situation..if she tries to hold the sand tightly it will slip between the fingers in no time and what will be left is empty hand!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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adi this is a one liner in punjabi on ruq's behalf..let me know if u do not understand i will translate..taken from Amrita Pritam's writings...

"changa hoiya tu paraya ho gaya muk gai chinta tainu apnaun di..."
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
Nice post Adiana, you got the point absolutely right everyone has to evolve, Ruqs was in her self created paradise , till the time she realised he had moved on. She was satisfied that he was hers , she beleived that only her way of running the Harem is correct, No one will stand against her , only till she started getting feelers that told her otherwise , her worst fears are now becoming reality.

As they say :

Life is a journey and as you travel ( alone or with a companion) pick up the skills and learnings that come across your path and imbibe them . In the end you will evolve a better person.


The thing is each one has to do it themselves by their own will and judgement.



Edited by preeti.r - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: mandyg

adi this is a one liner in punjabi on ruq's behalf..let me know if u do not understand i will translate..taken from Amrita Pritam's writings...

"changa hoiya tu paraya ho gaya muk gai chinta tainu apnaun di..."

Mandy
Translation please...😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Mandy

Translation please...😃


yes mandy di😊
for me too
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46
hI

REPLYING TO YOUR POST FOR THE FIRST TIME. i ALWAYS LOVED YOUR VERY INSIGHTFUL POSTS... SUCH DEPTH IN YOUR THOUGHTS... LOVE TO READ THEM ALL..BUT SOMEHOW KEPT MYSELF AWAY FROM REPLYING.. NO WORDS TO EXPRESS MYSELF.. SUCH AN AWESOME WRITER YOU ARE.. AGREED TO EACH AND EVERY WORD OF YOURS... YOU HAVE DESCRIBED JA-JOS EVOLUTION SO WELL. ITS MUTUAL AND THATS THE DIFFERENCE IN JA-RUKS RELATION..THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE ON THE MENTAL LEVEL.. JALAL'S SOUL COULD NEVER CONNECT TO HERS..THATS WHY HE WAS SO LONELY INSPITE OF HAVING SO MANY BEGUMS... HE ONLY COULD CONNECT TO JODHA...

WHAT A LOVELY POST... KEEP WRITING SUCH WONDERFUL POSTS ..ITS BECAUSE OF SUCH WRITERS LIKE YOU THAT THIS FORUM IS WHAT IT IS..WE REALLY HAVE SUCH WONDERFUL WRITERS IN SHYAMLA AUNTY ( SHES THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY), LASHY, MANSI,ELA, DIVYA.KSHITI, MEDHA, MAGES... AND OF COURSE YOU... HAVE I MISSED ANYONE???SORRY IF I HAVE... BUT TAKE A BOW ALL OF YOU... LOVE THIS FORUM..LOVE YOU ALL...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
A great discussion. ...loved all your views.
My point is since beginning Jalal was never in love woth rukaiyah
See after falling in love he has hardly given a look to another woman, in a very matter of fact way even Benazir was unable to distract him. Though he was paining at heart and he shared it with ruquaiah but what did she do? Instead of solving the problem rubbed more salt in his wounds.
But he just used benzo to make jodha jealous.
Even when he went to ruquaiah to sprnd the night his heart was with jodha.
And jodha too is not comfortable with her husband with another woman.
This is the contrast..love doesn't come by brain. .it is the plant nurtured by heart with its seeds in destiny.
Jodha and jalal love each other not because rukaiyah is bad or jodha is better, because just they are in love.
They have accepted each others flaws and they try to as mandy has very well put evolve together not to rule each other but to be with each other..jodha loves to cook for him he tries to love her kanha..jodha cares for his health while he tries to make her feel home
.its a thing of heart no logic can ever define it...and yes no third can come between it..rukaiyah I'm sorry missed the bus..
Remembered a song...

Humne dekhi hai in aankhon ki mehakti khushboo
Haat se choo ke isey rishto ka ilzaam na do
Sirf ehsaas hai ye rooh se mehsoos karo
Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do koie naam na do
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Mandy

Translation please...😃


Ok Sandhya and neena I will do it in hindi in english the essence will be lost. ...'acha hua tu kissi aur ka ho gaya ab mujhe chinta (worry) nahin rahi tujhe apnane ki...'
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
Adi wonderful post...JJ evolved as both wanted for themselves & for each other...

Ruqu till now didn't see the need to evolve nor realized she have to evolve, but now with seeing JJ closeness & jalaal still trust & importance he showers on JO, with her every trick to separate JJ fails she will stoop down loosing jalaal friendship change will come where she is will evolve as a wife & friend for Jalaal...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Adi wonderful post...JJ evolved as both wanted for themselves & for each other...

Ruqu till now didn't see the need to evolve nor realized she have to evolve, but now with seeing JJ closeness & jalaal still trust & importance he showers on JO, with her every trick to separate JJ fails she will stoop down loosing jalaal friendship change will come where she is will evolve as a wife & friend for Jalaal...


well in her subconscious mind ruku is understanding the fact. thts why she tried to make rotis during salim chisti track. & she also saw tht jalal & jodha appreciated her effort. she actually fears to accept the truth. once she realizes tht her & jalal's relationship was never in danger due to jodha, hopefully she will evolve. but for tht she has to go through a lot. just like both jalal & jodha had gone through a lot before reaching the position where they r today.
Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago

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