should ruqayia be given second chance? - Page 7

Originally posted by: jshweta16

Mandy, a very good post!! 👍🏼 and of course she should be given a second chance.

It is difficult for any woman to accept her husband's other wife/wives but as long as the 16th century is considered not only a queen but many ordinary women had to accept this! In an era where polygamy was accepted and practiced women were very much used to it compared to us, the women of 21st century. Though they must have felt jealous and insecure but these feelings and situation cannot be compared to the feelings of a woman of our society. They must be very much tolerant and these dosage were given to them since childhood. Remember what Bharmal said to Jodha on her Muh Dikhayi ? That it is common and normal that the man you would marry will have other wives besides you, it doesn't matter if he is Rajvanshi or Mughal. We generally do not see polygamy practiced in our family/society and hence if we cannot tolerate such thing if we come across to it ever.

Your are right! she must have been in a dilemma whether to treat him as friend or her husband. But I've seen many friends who get marry over the course of time and things does change between them but for their own good. There is a fine line between friendship and companionship, the latter is the pillar of any marriage and which seems to have absent in case of Ruq-Jalal relation. Companionship doesn't always means romance but a feeling of togetherness and being there for your partner no matter what. I'm there for you and you are there for me was what their marriage lacked and ultimately their friendship never turned into companionship. In such cases you really cannot blame one person.

Its true that Jalal had never those romantic feelings for Ruqu, sometimes we take our best friend or partner too much for granted that we forget to know what they really want from this relationship, from us. With increase in number of women in harem, Ruqu made herself a so strong that none could match her place in Jalal's life. She was so much confident back then because like Jalal she too was under the impression that he does not have a heart and he cannot really love any woman. Now by the time Jodha entered their lives and Jalal discovered his heart, Ruqu had her own place in Jalal's life, his heart. Jodha/Salima did not take over her but created their own place and at the same time Ruqu started losing her control and importance as the sole khas begum of Jalal. Now she should focus on him and her place in his heart rather than trying to sideline his other wives. She could not stop Jalal from marrying other women and she cannot stop him from falling in love then why waste your time in throwing Jodha out of harem instead of making it sure that her friendship is as invaluable to him as his love for Jodha is ?

Originally posted by: adianasr

Mandy, unfortunately even this attempt by Ruqs is not a real one. She is more interested in the results this act - of spending time with TE - would gain instead of the act it self. And that is something she has not been able to hide from TE either - the man has very smartly gauged the reason for her acts.

Ya toh jo kaam kar rahe ho poori imaandaari se karo, ya phir aise karo ki kisi ko pata na chale ki isme tumhaari koi selfish motive chupi hai!!! - Ruqs failed on both counts - and hence I refuse to be empathic or sympathic towards her.

Originally posted by: munnirony

@mandy, wht i feel about jalal talking to ruku about his feelings jodha, maybe he doesnt feel its the right time. he himself isnt aware of jodha's feelings, so if today he tells ruku evrything & if ruku questions jodha about it & if jo says no then he wont be able to tolerate. as we had already seen he fears rejection from jodha. but about jodha he had already told ruku once tht jodha is his new friend & also he had told her about the "dhakka" incident as well. so its not true tht he never opened up in front of ruku. but opening up about his love has 2 factors. 1st he fears rejection from jodha & knowing ruku, she will definitely ques jodha & 2ndly, he knows tht ruku wont accept it easily, so maybe he wants her to prepare for it in his "teda" methods. of course jalal is also not without any flaws, but he is also very young & still he also havent learnt fully to make balance b/w both. & besides the differences which r shown b/w jo & ruku in the show, is making him more confused. look its the 16th century where the priorities of the kings changed, so we cant expect jalal to be diff so soon. yes ruku was a spoilt brat & jalal had always given her priority. but tht time jalal was also a grey shaded person who never cared about other wives & even other wives were not like jodha who will try to maintain balance. so if its jalal's responsibility to maintain, ruku should also be try to maintain balance with other begums. as i had said she had full right to question jalal or lash at him, but getting physical with other begums is bit too much.

Originally posted by: mandyg

yes, our TE was smart enough to figure it out and maybe that is why he disliked her touch, but don't u think she maybe has feelings for jalal and also loves him besides the power? remember her teary eye in the initial episodes when jalal said that he has no heart!

Originally posted by: amssaiyed

AWSOME POST from Ruqaiya's point of view.

When the show first started Ruqaiya was noble, fair, smart, ambitious, confident, and clever.Her relationship with Jalal was so precious. There are so many memorable scenes between her and Jalal. First one was in Episode 13 when Jalal enters the palace and Ruqaiya is on the terrace and theirs eyes meet. Not once did their eyes break eye contact and their smirks. 😊 The second scene is when Jalal asks her which of these three (friend, husband, and emperor) relationship do you want to be. She replied I want to be the girl for whom a friend loses his dil, a husband, his iman and a emperor, will bow his head in front of. The third scene was when she was trying to make him feel better after the whole Fareeda's pregnancy affair. She forgot about her own tears and thought about him. She never rubbed salt in his wounds. She was truly the first lady of the Mughal empire and she carried herself with so much dignity. I fell in love with the character.

Even after so much negetivity i have soft corner for Ruqaiya bcos she was a gem earlier.

if we consider some recent instances she did not care abt Jodha but just her relation with Jalal when she was all excited to play chess or going with him for the boat ride only to get dissapointed later.

She cud have stopped the boat ride right there atleast thts wht i felt she wud do but no she did not interfere and showed her dignity and complained only later tottaly frustated and hurt and Jalal ignored her and did not even care to pacify her, that was so rude.

Her insecurities are somewhere quite justified and its very much beacause of Jalal and not Jodha..

When Benazir took Ruqaiya and Jodha was ill, Jalal did not even care to go after Benazir to save Ruq. considering what their relation was that was quite a blow for me from Jalal's side bcos Jodha was all being taken care by harem doctors and other ppl.

At tht time evn under benazir Ruqs words were-"Tum Jalal ko maarna chahti thi, hum tumhe chodenge nai" but Jalal cared least for her and let her go in front of her for Jodha.

Well i so want the positive Ruqaiya back and awsome friendship with Jalal and deffo she deserves second chance bcos its even Jalal's fault as he never made an effort to make her understand and MahaManga provoked Ruqaiya.

Originally posted by: adianasr

Mandy someone has just posted a statement made by Ruqs made in the initial epis to Jalal to his Q what she wanted to be friend / wife / empress to which it seems she replied - I want to be the girl for whom a friend loses his dil, a husband, his iman and a emperor, will bow his head in front of - This statement does not come from a woman in Love but from a woman who knows she has managed to garner the attention of an Emperor due to her intelligence and sexuality and is drunk with it. This statement, to my mind, totally proves my point!!! In my book a statement such as this does not show Love but then this is my opinion