should ruqayia be given second chance? - Page 6

Originally posted by: parmarA

I am reading all the readers and writer's view and your answer to them

I musat say U are very good fan of Ruku 😃

Originally posted by: JeannieJA

@mandyg

that's what I kinda have a problem with, why is only Jalal expected to sit Ruqs down and open up his heart to her??? Since Ruqs has always been confident about the fact that she is his bachpan ki friend and their dosti is precious why cant she go and sit Jalal down and ask him what the heck is going on with him?? the other day when Jalal was screaming at her face "kya khoneka darr hai aapko ki aapne aisi harkat ki" or something like that... instead of plotting and planning and basically going the Maham route why can't she get on Jalal's case??

Just bcoz Jalal is the more mature one in this relationship all responsibilities of the well being of it do not fall on him... this dude was seen holding on to his chest thinking its a chest pain coz he was happy when jo told him she does not ghrina him anymore, here maturity is only limited to being a shehenshah (aajkal woh bhi gaayab hai)

hmmm okay sorry but women can only love one man at a time and men can love many is something i just dont agree with. even men love one woman at a time its the lusting that they can do with a billion women at a time if they could 😆

Originally posted by: history_geek

One point i would like to share here...

DO NOT hold CV's for ''deliberately'' turning Ruqs as bad or grey.

Initially what we saw was a single tigeress, who was the ONLY SPECIAL ONE.

Now we have more than one. 😉

They are showing her changing and going through a transition phase. Real nature of a person evolves only IN testing times.

Btw, good discussion guys...!..

Originally posted by: adianasr

<font size="2">Mandy, as a historical pointer to your post, there is a research paper on Abhay's thread about the power held by Mughal Women from the Royal Harem (link to paper can be found on Abhay's thread) which speaks of Salima and MUZ but there is no mention of Ruqaiyya - and the paper gives all the sources of research - This in itself gives an idea that historically also Ruqs did not share the same importance that Salima and MUZ had (paper also speaks of many of the other royal women from Babur to Aurangazeb times).</font>

<font size="2">Coming to the Q - does Ruqs deserve a second chance - as of now Ruqs is getting her 3rd chance to show better behaviour - and I am not talking of behaviour to Jodha but behaviour in general - 1st was the hojra change issue when TE told her not to stoop to such levels - 2nd was when Benazir exposed her during the aborted wedding which TE has not pursued seriously yet (dont think he did not take note becoz he did) - 3rd is the murti kaand where once more Ruqs has been warned to maintain her dignity.</font>

<font size="2">Along with all these chances, Ruqs has also been given many other chances too - to behave in a better way.</font>

<font size="2">Coming to the issue of love - In the entire show, till now I have not seen any love or for that matter friendship from Ruqs - yes she did ask Jalal to give 10 days to the Ameris in the MC track and yes she did say that hers would be the first dua for Jalal's child, but both were done by her when Jodha was anti Jalal - Pls note I have said 'Jodha was anti Jalal' and not Jalal being anti Jodha becoz Ruqs always has known that Jalal had never been anti Jodha - Yes there was a time when Jalal hated Jodha from his core which is something that he has never shown to anyone else and extreme hate is actually nothing but extreme love and Ruqs had realised this discrepency in Jalal's behavior hence for Ruqs it was Jodha's anti Jalal stand which made her do both these acts of generosity - But unfortunately for Ruqs, Jalal's innate goodness acted as water does on stone and broke the shield that Jodha had built around herself and despite all odds, Jodha changed her stand towards Jalal - and it is this change that has pushed Ruqs over the brink becoz now there is nothing to hold Jalal and Jodha apart since Love has built the bridge between them - and there is nothing that can be the bridge for Ruqs and Jalal where there has never been any Love and even friendship was mainly maintained by Jalal and Ruqs knows that she never did build on the relation she had with Jalal.</font>

Originally posted by: mandyg

abhay i have read your threads here and there but please pm me regarding the issue of jodha getting all the credits for slavery abolish and many more to come but what about jalal? shouldn't he be taking the front seat? anyway just pm me about your khoj regarding that as its a separate issue..after making this post people think i am ruq's fan but i am only my jallu's fan😆

Originally posted by: adianasr

Mandy, as a historical pointer to your post, there is a research paper on Abhay's thread about the power held by Mughal Women from the Royal Harem (link to paper can be found on Abhay's thread) which speaks of Salima and MUZ but there is no mention of Ruqaiyya - and the paper gives all the sources of research - This in itself gives an idea that historically also Ruqs did not share the same importance that Salima and MUZ had (paper also speaks of many of the other royal women from Babur to Aurangazeb times).

Coming to the Q - does Ruqs deserve a second chance - as of now Ruqs is getting her 3rd chance to show better behaviour - and I am not talking of behaviour to Jodha but behaviour in general - 1st was the hojra change issue when TE told her not to stoop to such levels - 2nd was when Benazir exposed her during the aborted wedding which TE has not pursued seriously yet (dont think he did not take note becoz he did) - 3rd is the murti kaand where once more Ruqs has been warned to maintain her dignity.

Along with all these chances, Ruqs has also been given many other chances too - to behave in a better way.

Coming to the issue of love - In the entire show, till now I have not seen any love or for that matter friendship from Ruqs - yes she did ask Jalal to give 10 days to the Ameris in the MC track and yes she did say that hers would be the first dua for Jalal's child, but both were done by her when Jodha was anti Jalal - Pls note I have said 'Jodha was anti Jalal' and not Jalal being anti Jodha becoz Ruqs always has known that Jalal had never been anti Jodha - Yes there was a time when Jalal hated Jodha from his core which is something that he has never shown to anyone else and extreme hate is actually nothing but extreme love and Ruqs had realised this discrepency in Jalal's behavior hence for Ruqs it was Jodha's anti Jalal stand which made her do both these acts of generosity - But unfortunately for Ruqs, Jalal's innate goodness acted as water does on stone and broke the shield that Jodha had built around herself and despite all odds, Jodha changed her stand towards Jalal - and it is this change that has pushed Ruqs over the brink becoz now there is nothing to hold Jalal and Jodha apart since Love has built the bridge between them - and there is nothing that can be the bridge for Ruqs and Jalal where there has never been any Love and even friendship was mainly maintained by Jalal and Ruqs knows that she never did build on the relation she had with Jalal.