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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: munnirony

look maybe jalal never loved ruku as a lover, but he had always cared for ruku & always loved her as a friend. he cares of ruku for sure, but her audha fascination is pissing him off. i can understand tht ruku's audha fixation is bcoz of her insecurity, but jalal is the person who always wants his own people to love him only as jalal. thts why he is closer to maham bcoz she always showers her love as his "badi ammi" & not as the wazir-e-walia. even after boat ride issue, ruku was ranting more bcoz the begum-e-khas had been ignored, not the wife. even jalal wants ruku to approach him just as a wife & friend. & ruku's addiction towards audha is not bcoz of jodha, it was there even before jo was there. jalal definitely cares for ruku, thts why he didnt said anything about the murti issue in front of others, despite he had proof. jalal is not ignoring ruku, but ruku doesnt want jalal to share with anyone else. i can understand ruku's feelings, but jalal cant be blamed in this situation bcoz love is sumthing which doesnt happens evrywhere. ruku definitely can get 2nd chance & why not??? if jalal can change, why cant ruku???



very well said munni! don't you think there is lack of communication here! no one wants to talk about their fears and insecurities because of their egos?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: parmarA

Rukaiya had all the power and hoda of Begum-e-khas.But what Jodha had?she had that eyes that she knew what is right and what's wrong.She had that junoon.But Ruk used it in diff way and jodha used it to save jalal.

Ruku ko sata ki bhukh hai aur Jodha ke pas insani dil hai.Which make jalal fall in love with Jodha.

Jodha ne jo jalal me badlaav laya hai woh ruk begum e khas hokar itne salo me nahi kar saki

Good points Mandyg



i agree, but i am feeling for ruq at this point, she is making attempts to get close to jalal her way and jalal is completely disinterested! i felt a pinch in my heart that nothing can be worst that this..unfortunately ruq could not make his heart beat for her all these years!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: mandyg



very well said munni! don't you think there is lack of communication here! no one wants to talk about their fears and insecurities because of their egos?


ya but its not just jalal's responsibility. both jalal & ruku r of same age, so why we want only jalal to show the maturity & not ruku??? yes its not ruku's fault if jalal is falling for jodha, but its neither jalal's fault as well bcoz love can happen anywhere. 2ndly, its 16th century where the kings had many wives, so it was the queen's responsibility as well to maintain the balance despite of all her insecurities. if ruku genuinely comes up as a wife & a friend, jalal himself will maintain the balance on his own.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: mandyg



i agree, but i am feeling for ruq at this point, she is making attempts to get close to jalal her way and jalal is completely disinterested! i felt a pinch in my heart that nothing can be worst that this..unfortunately ruq could not make his heart beat for her all these years!

I agree with your points.Ise kahete hai ghodo ke bhagne ke baad astabal ko tala marna.
I feel sorry for Ruku too.Now she is trying to impress jalal.Yes i agree that she love Jalal more than anything.But now jalal have another two eyes who saved him.

Ruku was Khaas begum for long years.But our jalal was heartless and now his heart alive bec of jodha's dhadkan

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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: mandyg



hmmm...but i am thinking from a woman's point of view..why she had to play filthy games in the first place?..maybe she is used to such dirty politics and jalal never had any objection to it before..now he has changed but she is still there waiting to play a game of chess with him...

yes I completely agree with u jalal has changed because of jodhas good deeds... As he was also chanting the same mantra that she doesn't have a heart but as to jodhas success he realised he has one because of jodha and only beats for her and rukaiyya she heard jalal saying tht he doesn't have heart and accepted it and she killed her heart too... When she has no hope tht jalal has a heart then why should she get his love whereas jodha believed in his heart and made it beat and she gets his love... And rukaiyya is jealous of jodha and does some deed and loses his friendship also...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: mandyg



do u think she should be completely ignored and sidelined by jalal? what would you have done if u were in her place would you have accepted any other woman happily in your man's life?..sorry bit personal question,u do not have to answer if not comfortable.


i won't ever keep myself in her place b/c my character is not similar with ruq ever, i m realistic person n not greedy like her n i believe in " prevention is better than cure".. if any lady won't succeed her hubby restraining to marry another lady frm 1st place then there is no benevolence to b jealous or evil on that lady who has already come in her hubby's life..n if u read my previous comment properly i think u shouldn't b hard for u to get my view.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: munnirony


ya but its not just jalal's responsibility. both jalal & ruku r of same age, so why we want only jalal to show the maturity & not ruku??? yes its not ruku's fault if jalal is falling for jodha, but its neither jalal's fault as well bcoz love can happen anywhere. 2ndly, its 16th century where the kings had many wives, so it was the queen's responsibility as well to maintain the balance despite of all her insecurities. if ruku genuinely comes up as a wife & a friend, jalal himself will maintain the balance on his own.



another good point munni, but here we r talking about our spoilt brat ruq who has been getting jalal's solo attention until jodha's entry..and now she feels left out but because of her ego and being in a denial phase she is not willing to accept defeat..i hope she realizes soon that she is fighting a lost battle and only jalal can help her get out of it slowly..not by being teda but with love and care!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
Today we cannot think about our husbands having a trail of wives after us coz well first we will kick them to the curb if that were to happen and second they are going to jail, polygamy ain't allowed but during that period it was the norm. So no i cannot place myself in Ruqs place n think how she felt. 😊
Even Jalal got married at a young n tender age and lets not forget that he did not just come up with the "I don't have a heart" thing on his own, it was drilled into him by Bairam Khan and Maham Anga, as seen in the show. So both Jalal and Ruqs had their own sets of issues.
So when u ask me a question should Jalal give Ruqs a second chance and accept Ruqs love coz she is his first wife and friend? I would say NO. If only it was as easy as waking up one day and deciding no i can't love this person I am supposed to love that person... or i could love both can't I??? Just being a first wife and friend does not entitle her to his love. And its not like Jallu has fallen in love with someone else's wife and its an affair, bakaayda apni biwi se pyaar karta hai yaar whatever number she might be.
So no I do not sympathize with Ruqs, can't bring myself to either
Does Ruqs deserve a second chance?? That depends on if she is asking for a second chance, are her motives pure when she goes to Jalal wanting to spend time with him, are her actions pure??
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: nabiii


i won't ever keep myself in her place b/c my character is not similar with ruq ever, i m realistic person n not greedy like her n i believe in " prevention is better than cure".. if any lady won't succeed her hubby restraining to marry another lady frm 1st place then there is no benevolence to b jealous or evil on that lady who has already come in her hubby's life..n if u read my previous comment properly i think u shouldn't b hard for u to get my view.



i think your are in a fighting spirit..sorry, only healthy discussions are appreciated!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: parmarA

I agree with your points.Ise kahete hai ghodo ke bhagne ke baad astabal ko tala marna.

I feel sorry for Ruku too.Now she is trying to impress jalal.Yes i agree that she love Jalal more than anything.But now jalal have another two eyes who saved him.

Ruku was Khaas begum for long years.But our jalal was heartless and now his heart alive bec of jodha's dhadkan



😆..very apt muhawara!

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