jalal a strong emperor or jalal a poodle! - Page 6

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Dekha Mandy

Zooom...

The credit of slavery abolition also goes to Jodha Devi. She does all the work. Jalal only passes the law. He is reduced to a rubber stamp.

Inspired by his mahaan begum, he will probably gift his awaam anti-ghulaami law on the jashn.

Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

Jodha is gonna turn harem in to another Woodstock festival.🐷🤣

Originally posted by: munnirony

look the prob is tht the equality is seriously missing in the show. jodha's influence on jalal is perfect & dont have probs with tht , infact, i love the way they support each other. but the prob is CVs mostly focus on jodha's achievements. but wht about jalal's achievements??? jalal is just shown roaming in in harem or solving harem probs. for eg. today, while jodha is busy in her works, jalal had enough time to roam, to take rest etc. etc. i think true balance will be there when it will be shown tht jodha is taking care & solving harem probs efficiently whereas jalal solving sum matters in the sultanate. yes jalal was definitely under the influence of maham, but he never sat idle. infact, real jalal was very busy expanding his sultanate & also in political matters. thts why initially he never knew about the wrongs happening in the sultanate or the harem, bcoz he was never there in agra much. but here jalal is shown almost most of the times in agra, still he knows nothing tht looks strange. even during the tasneem track things were equal, bcoz even enough jodha gave him the idea, it was actually jalal who executed it in a right way. but after tht things have been bit diff. & since rajat got injured jalal completely became idle.

PS:- for me jalal is certainly not a poodle but i find him really an idle emperor doing nothing. while jodha is doing multi-tasking, jalal is shown idle & only doing work when jodha involves him. jodha is doing gr8, but parallel tracks of jalal doing sumthing should be also there. he is the shahenshah who is the most powerful man, he cant sit idle. he can be right or wrong, he can commit mistakes but cant be idle.

Originally posted by: adianasr

Sandhya, did you know that between 1560-63 Akbar actually laid low and only planned his entire vision and strategy, doing very little???

And it was actually from 1564 that Akbar totally broke off all the yokels of the past that bore him down to surge ahead into putting his vision into a reality???

Aur yeh main nahin history bolti hai.

Unfortunately, history is a linear narrative and hence does not give any interpretations - all it says is that till 1564 he had the weight of the Atkha Khail weighing him down. So to my way of interpreting - till 1564 Akbar kept a low profile mainly becoz the Atkha Khail could become a major force against him and his empire and though he had no issues about fighting them he wanted to do so on his terms - decide when, where, how and which battles he would fight.

Iss liye if he is doing nothing now then it actually is becoz this period was a period of gathering his strength and resources - not the tangible ones but the intangible ones.

Originally posted by: Silentsoul

I try to stay away from this forum argument over how much fictionalized this show is...As they show Jallal totally idiot or lady influenced man most of times. According to history he was in big negative influence of Maham. Read many books with phrase Known as the "Petticoat era" it is said that whole time MA used Akbar as puppet king.

And Akbar journey from Jalal to Akbar the great started from death of Adham and Maham

But to be true..I never found that all good decisions of Akbar was Jodha influenced. His major influence was from Todar Mal and Birbal. But I think until they will bring them to show Akbar will make all reforms and changes because of Jodha.

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Adi

May be he didn't go for war. He should have planned his wars and worked out his strategy. He should have admin works

Dea and dek sessions.

They can show his dea sessions and gradual shift towards more humanism in dispensing justice. People could praise him for his broad mindedness and humanism. He could discuss his plans -outline if not detail with atga the way he outlined his plans when he agreed to marry jo and the ministers praised him. Side by side they could also show jo making improvements in harem. There would be a balance then

But now the only work he does is what jo involves him. Otherwise jobless. If poodle sounds harsh then jobless.

Originally posted by: adianasr

Sandhya one can complain about the presentation by EK and her team, but historically, this period was definitely one of reconaissance and planning of vision and strategy, of learning what needs to be done and how to do it, of who is friend and who is foe - effectively, one of keeping a low profile and learning of his own strengths and weaknesses as well as gauging the strengths and weakness of all the others within Agra and outside - infact they are not showing him go out in disguise which he did a lot in this period to know of his people and his kingdom - they are only focusing on the love story and hence the harem.

But know this, Akbar used to rest only for 3 hours in a day and for the remaining 21 hours, along with DEK and DEA, he worked on all his other interests including his own learning which is missing in the show - but then EK had made this statement on day one that she is only concentrating on the love story and nothing else - so why crib!!!

Originally posted by: subha_rath2004

I really dont have much complaint on this show excepting one fact that now CVs are trying to make jalal out of work...all time free for jodha...jalal is not busy in any work...in DEK ppl are interefering...i dont like that...

so next time anyone is gonna call zee plz ask them to make jalal as he was previously in the work front...in dek discusing political matters...n no interference,,...

can anyone give me zee number...?

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Originally posted by Sandhya.A

Adi

May be he didn't go for war. He should have planned his wars and worked out his strategy. He should have admin works

Dea and dek sessions.

They can show his dea sessions and gradual shift towards more humanism in dispensing justice. People could praise him for his broad mindedness and humanism. He could discuss his plans -outline if not detail with atga the way he outlined his plans when he agreed to marry jo and the ministers praised him. Side by side they could also show jo making improvements in harem. There would be a balance then

But now the only work he does is what jo involves him. Otherwise jobless. If poodle sounds harsh then jobless.

Sandhya one can complain about the presentation by EK and her team, but historically, this period was definitely one of reconaissance and planning of vision and strategy, of learning what needs to be done and how to do it, of who is friend and who is foe - effectively one of keeping a low profile and learning of his own strengths and weaknesses as well as gauging the strengths and weakness of all the others within Agra and outside - infact they are not showing him go out in disguise which he did a lot in this period to know of his people and his kingdom - they are only focusing on the love story and hence the harem.

But know this, Akbar used to rest only for 3 hours in a day and for the remaining 21 hours, along with DEK and DEA, he worked on all his other interests including his own learning which is missing in the show - but then EK had made this statement on day one that she is only concentrating on the love story and nothing else - so why crib!!!

***Adi, I agree, I don't see them showing Jalal jobless and they are showing foundation for the future of Akbar, he met Todarmal, Tansen, but they were not in his court during those years, and it is not the story of Akbar's journey alone, for that "Akbar the Great" show was made, it is about Jo and Jalal's love story and how much he transformed, and why he fell in love with her, so y not enjoy the show and at times Jo's mahanta is too much to handle. Still as long as they show love story, then I m ok with it and if Jalal goes to war, how will they show them on screen together?