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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Thanks Cleo😊

Yes Shivaji Maharaj had gone on his famous Surat triumph at that time. His father Shahaji Raje Bhosale died when had gone on shikar. His horse's hoove got into a ditch and both fell and he was thrown on a rock.
Jijamata decided to go sati and had in fact done all the rituals associated with it. Shivaji Maharaj came back from Surat to see the flags at half mast on the fort and when told about Jijamata he rushed to stop her. He did it successfully.

His son Sambhaji Maharaj also tried very hard to stop Putalabai (his step mother) from going sati, but she was extremely devoted to Shivaji Maharaj and did not listen to him. She was not around on Raigad at the time of Shivaji Maharaj's last rites and so she made an image of him and went sati with that image later.

I know that in Mahabharat Karna's 1st wife Vrushali went Sati. Krishna did Karna's last rites and Vrushali came to where they were on a hill and walked into the pyre.

I have also read the same explanation for Jauhar so that the enemy could not even get the bodies to mutilate.



Thanks Maddy...this is so interesting. I don't know much about Maratha history. Where can I find authentic reading material. Thanks to our dear Abhay, I have also started doubting everything I read on the Internet.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks very informative. I have always read he banned Sati, never knew of that story.
I like how you referred him as an Indian Emperor because in reality he was born there and that makes his nationality Indian. He may be the grandson of the "invader" but he was a true Indian because he cared so much about India-in every aspect. I love him even more now after hearing that story , he is my role model from Indian history.
Edited by brownprincess25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

I read somewhere when the issue of Sati being forcefully been committed in Akbar's court, MUZ had some kind influence on banning the forceful Sati. It is said that they both discussed it.The issue was shown rising in Akbar The Great from the 90's





Were not the woman shoved with opium,and drugged to force them to commit Sati?



Syria,
I don't get it how you are able to find books and still dug out these facts despite being there in US.
Anyways kudos to your efforts..!..
If you have finished Hum. Nama, i ll PM u another book's name.

Yes, regarding Sati there was some talk between them in the court. Though her own mother commited sati as per what shweta told me. So that may be a reason in her taking part in this decision...??..

Also Akbar banned only forceful Sati.!. Not voluntary Sati...!...

Yes women were normally drugged during this process.!.

BTW, not ONLY this.
Already i mentioned in my main pt4 thread regarding Holi celebration and Janmashtmi celebration in Akbar's time and also How it started. 😉

Also try to find out the first major Durga Puja by Akbar and also who caused it..?..😉..You will not get this on Net..!.. But i feel you got what i mean here...This answer is evident if you visit Amer's Palace..

Coming to the present slavery track. Slavery abolition had something to do with Harem slavery as well. And there is also mention that DESPITE abolition of slavery it started again later..!..
Some involvement of harem is there...No matter this may appear funny but this issue relates to harem ALSO..!. I will write more on this thread later if i get some info...ROFL...😆..

Btw, in India slavery was practiced since Delhi Sultanate times and even before that we had the concept of chandalls during Guptas. Who were basicaly 'outcaste slaves' basically like modern manual scavengers. And we know about famous slave trade of africans by europeans who were sent to Americas..!..

BUT this was abolished in 1560's itself in Mughal India..!..way before those people abolished it in west..

Keep sharing your findings.!.
Till now i know about her involvement in these issues.!.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhay, so Jodha jee liked to celebrate Durga Pooja? 😆 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for the great information dear ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Abhay, so Jodha jee liked to celebrate Durga Pooja? 😆 😆




Don't we keep hearing Ambe Maa's reference always from her...?..😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Syria,
I don't get it how you are able to find books and still dug out these facts despite being there in US.
Anyways kudos to your efforts..!..
If you have finished Hum. Nama, i ll PM u another book's name.

Yes, regarding Sati there was some talk between them in the court. Though her own mother commited sati as per what shweta told me. So that may be a reason in her taking part in this decision...??..

Also Akbar banned only forceful Sati.!. Not voluntary Sati...!...

Yes women were normally drugged during this process.!.

BTW, not ONLY this.
Already i mentioned in my main pt4 thread regarding Holi celebration and Janmashtmi celebration in Akbar's time and also How it started. 😉

Also try to find out the first major Durga Puja by Akbar and also who caused it..?..😉..You will not get this on Net..!.. But i feel you got what i mean here...This answer is evident if you visit Amer's Palace..

Coming to the present slavery track. Slavery abolition had something to do with Harem slavery as well. And there is also mention that DESPITE abolition of slavery it started again later..!..
Some involvement of harem is there...No matter this may appear funny but this issue relates to harem ALSO..!. I will write more on this thread later if i get some info...ROFL...😆..

Btw, in India slavery was practiced since Delhi Sultanate times and even before that we had the concept of chandalls during Guptas. Who were basicaly 'outcaste slaves' basically like modern manual scavengers. And we know about famous slave trade of africans by europeans who were sent to Americas..!..

BUT this was abolished in 1560's itself in Mughal India..!..way before those people abolished it in west..

Keep sharing your findings.!.
Till now i know about her involvement in these issues.!.


Thanks for sharing Abhay 👏
So the show is on right track!!! Slavery was abolished from harem too 😲, maybe in coming episodes they will show Jalal abolishing the enslavement and conversion of war prisoners 😃. I was upset with this track and that particular spoiler but cannot complain now as they are very much following history!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: history_geek




Don't we keep hearing Ambe Maa's reference always from her...?..😉


Ya but that could be her patron Goddess! Durga Pooja is only for Bengalis!

So what did she say/ do that Akbar begun celebrating Durga pooja?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Syria,
I don't get it how you are able to find books and still dug out these facts despite being there in US.
Anyways kudos to your efforts..!..
If you have finished Hum. Nama, i ll PM u another book's name.

Yes, regarding Sati there was some talk between them in the court. Though her own mother commited sati as per what shweta told me. So that may be a reason in her taking part in this decision...??..

Also Akbar banned only forceful Sati.!. Not voluntary Sati...!...

Yes women were normally drugged during this process.!.

BTW, not ONLY this.
Already i mentioned in my main pt4 thread regarding Holi celebration and Janmashtmi celebration in Akbar's time and also How it started. 😉

Also try to find out the first major Durga Puja by Akbar and also who caused it..?..😉..You will not get this on Net..!.. But i feel you got what i mean here...This answer is evident if you visit Amer's Palace..

Coming to the present slavery track. Slavery abolition had something to do with Harem slavery as well. And there is also mention that DESPITE abolition of slavery it started again later..!..
Some involvement of harem is there...No matter this may appear funny but this issue relates to harem ALSO..!. I will write more on this thread later if i get some info...ROFL...😆..

Btw, in India slavery was practiced since Delhi Sultanate times and even before that we had the concept of chandalls during Guptas. Who were basicaly 'outcaste slaves' basically like modern manual scavengers. And we know about famous slave trade of africans by europeans who were sent to Americas..!..

BUT this was abolished in 1560's itself in Mughal India..!..way before those people abolished it in west..

Keep sharing your findings.!.
Till now i know about her involvement in these issues.!.



Abhay thanks for making the post. When you post it is for sure authentic information, not hearsay.

It feels incredible to learn that Akbar was so liberal and cared so much for women's issues also. He would not have been any less great if he had not bothered to interfere in what was sensitive issue from another religion.

So this slavery abolition was done first here. It went on for centuries in the West and especially America.

I feel nice knowing along with watching the serial we are getting good knowledge about such matters.

I wonder why when Jodha's grandmother had not gone sati, did her mother?
BTW so sati pratha was a custom it was not religious? Also was it practiced since Mahabhrata era?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhay kya ?😲 Mainavati committed sati?😲
so abolishing slavery starts from harem! glad to know that😃
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago

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