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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Mansi,

Whats ur take on new Promo?


we heard what jallu said...but its in the background...

what if he has said this to ruqs & they are showing jalal-jodha just to confuse us...

Promos are always misleading!
lets wait and watch!

Harry
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv



woww awesme jodha begum👏👏thanku buddy for the info😊



I have posted in some previous thread before, it's my ardent wish that this harem take over lead to highlighting of Jodha's management skill and eventually lead to her handling the trade affair of Mughal sultanate, as per history...
Edited by gheet - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
superb, wonderful and perfect analysis, Mansi...👏👏👏

for the first time when , i saw the episode, i too was confused abt Jalal behaving this way, but later at night again, when i saw it, i just loved it...only one thing, if the sequence of the scenes would have been different, the impact would have been more for this episode.

as u have said, first he prepared Jo to take the responsibility, and then made Ruku give up... but instead of this Ruku-Salima scene , then ruku-Jalal scene and lastly Akdha scene, with his words, that Jo has to prepare for hard work from next day, as a parting shot at the end of the episode, it would have kept hammering in viewers mind and thus clearly making them understand Jalal's mind, instead of confusing them...

yes, he used the reverse psychology... and that's why i said sequence change... coz he was sure , he wants Jo as BEK, but after knowing from Ruku that Salima too is in Jo's favour, his decision being more firm abt Jo and then he using his trick on Jo would have looked more convincing... plus, after getting head massage , he just made up his hairs and went to Ruku all neat, with all his hairs properly in place?

and then while taking Ruku's leave, his winning smile... so i wanted AkDha scene after Ruku-Jalal scene... anyway, rightly as u have said, Jalal is preparing Jo for greater responsibility in future... and now i m sure, Jo will take up the challenge, and right now when this is a challenge for her, Jalal will support her silently if not openly...should Jo face any problem (and she will from Ruku and MA, and few of Ruku's favoured begums), then i m sure he will taunt her on her face that Ruku never asked for his support and handled on her own, and thus make Jo decide all new strategies and work on them , and then he may tell Salima to be with Jo and he himself will see that ruku's created problems r not going out of proportions..

i m sure he will stand by Jo , silently, till she proves herself, may be sometimes he will support her if he feels, she is being targeted unnecessarily... but he will be there for her...

so now i m waiting for ME, which i m sure is not going to be much except Jo accepting challenge, then Jalal declaring her as temperary BEK, then Ruku-Jo challenging eachother and some heated arguments, then salima and HB showing their happiness and support to Jo, one scene of MA-Ruku plotting, and one scene of Jo-Jalal (jalal taunting and teasing Jo)... end of episode...

so next week we can get to see Jo starting her new career as BEK and facing new challenges and winning over it... so let's expect this track to go for a week, and may be next friday there will be a major Dhamaka... but Today's ME , i m expecting a simple one without any dhamaka...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Buddy fantastic analysis👏👏buddy there were many questions from yday night regarding jallu tedepan and frankly i dint like it yday but now by reading ur positive analysis im cheered up and got answers for many of them thank u😳...i love ur positive analysis of episode daily😳salima is just awesme loved her yday😳

jallu knows that he is in that persons place to choose btw frnshp and love...ur take in mazhar issue is awesme wer the one month of cooling period seemed to be needed to make Ruksana and Ruq reconciled to the love choices of Mazhar and Jalal respectively.👏

Regarding harem issue i think jallu already made his mind to give that responsibilty to jo...so first he asked all harem women that if they dont say any name then no one shud oppose ruks decison or complaints against her in future and gave them one day time to think...so indirectly he made all ppl to give jo name so that it made compulsion for jo to accept it...on other side he convinced jo by his tedepan not to feel this as forced one but as challenge for her by his reverse tactics that she cant handle harem and he also got answer for that wer jo says that she can handle it and he immediately says after she left that she will have more work from next day which means he already came to conclusion that he succeded and it worked with jo😊...

But the convo with ruks made me confused...he used dushman word😲 which i felt is not needed and he also said that he was feeling mazaa in this seriously jallu??😲In the convo with ruks he tried to control and suppress overconfidence of ruks and also warn her abt her enemy by this tedepan method it may work same lik jo but the consequences are very bitter after this bcz we all know abt ruks... jallu could not understand the seriousness of situation regarding ruks bcz now ruks brain is totally spoiled by maham and she can go to any length to insult jo... everytime he says that he cant understand jo(but its easy for him to understand jo) prob is that he cant understand ruk-maham...he has been with ruks for more than 10 yrs does he know how much harmful ruks intentions are to others...he even dint try to notice that how rude ruks is to others(slapping,kicking,insulting)...always encouraged her for her stupidity by calling khaas...does he know maham intentions answer is no...by the time he wil get reality check it will be too late and jo wil be the victim bcoz of these two and he will be sufferer and loser for letting jo into trouble...


Yes I know that "dushman" word in the dialogue was wrong because he should have said "competitor" not "enemy". I don't know what the correct Urdu word for "competitor" is ... but if he was talking shudh hindi he should have said "pratyogi". Is there an Urdu word for "competitor"? having the same meaning as "muqaabla karne waali"?
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: harrybird

Hi Mansi,


Whats ur take on new Promo?


we heard what jallu said...but its in the background...

what if he has said this to ruqs & they are showing jalal-jodha just to confuse us...

Promos are always misleading!
lets wait and watch!

Harry

There's some deliberate double meaning in Jalal saying "I can't believe you did this for getting the audha".
It could be a deliberately misleading promo to give us a feel that Jalal is disbelieving Jodha and belieiving Ruq and exclaiming at Jodha's audha-greed ... but in actuality we may find in the episode that he means he doesn't think Jodha would have done this for any audha.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

superb, wonderful and perfect analysis, Mansi...👏👏👏

for the first time when , i saw the episode, i too was confused abt Jalal behaving this way, but later at night again, when i saw it, i just loved it...only one thing, if the sequence of the scenes would have been different, the impact would have been more for this episode.

as u have said, first he prepared Jo to take the responsibility, and then made Ruku give up... but instead of this Ruku-Salima scene , then ruku-Jalal scene and lastly Akdha scene, with his words, that Jo has to prepare for hard work from next day, as a parting shot at the end of the episode, it would have kept hammering in viewers mind and thus clearly making them understand Jalal's mind, instead of confusing them...

You are dead right, the sequence of scenes could have been changed and the effect would have been more perfect!

yes, he used the reverse psychology... and that's why i said sequence change... coz he was sure , he wants Jo as BEK, but after knowing from Ruku that Salima too is in Jo's favour, his decision being more firm abt Jo and then he using his trick on Jo would have looked more convincing... plus, after getting head massage , he just made up his hairs and went to Ruku all neat, with all his hairs properly in place?

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 he must be having twenty ready=to-wear wigs?

and then while taking Ruku's leave, his winning smile... so i wanted AkDha scene after Ruku-Jalal scene... anyway, rightly as u have said, Jalal is preparing Jo for greater responsibility in future... and now i m sure, Jo will take up the challenge, and right now when this is a challenge for her, Jalal will support her silently if not openly...should Jo face any problem (and she will from Ruku and MA, and few of Ruku's favoured begums), then i m sure he will taunt her on her face that Ruku never asked for his support and handled on her own, and thus make Jo decide all new strategies and work on them , and then he may tell Salima to be with Jo and he himself will see that ruku's created problems r not going out of proportions..
This is exactly what they have shown in the new promo. See the link someone has put up ... in this new promo, they show that one of the problems created for Jodha (maybe by Ruq) is that Kanha moorthies were found in the rooms of all Hindu baandhis which is against harem rules so Ruq accuses Jodha of doing this ... then Jalal is shown saying to Jodha (in a double meaning sentence "Yakeen nahi hota ki audha ke liye app ne yeh kiya" etc. This could be misleading in the promo (as if Jalal doesn't believe Jodha and only believes Ruq), but in the episode he may well be saying he doesn't think Jodha will do such a thing! So your prediction is correct that Ruq will pile on the misery for Jo and Jalal will act as if he too is challenging Jodha - but his whole idea is to make Jo stronger in administration by challenging her.


i m sure he will stand by Jo , silently, till she proves herself, may be sometimes he will support her if he feels, she is being targeted unnecessarily... but he will be there for her...

so now i m waiting for ME, which i m sure is not going to be much except Jo accepting challenge, then Jalal declaring her as temperary BEK, then Ruku-Jo challenging eachother and some heated arguments, then salima and HB showing their happiness and support to Jo, one scene of MA-Ruku plotting, and one scene of Jo-Jalal (jalal taunting and teasing Jo)... end of episode...
Diksha, actually I was wondering if this maha epi will show Jodha starting her work in the harem and maybe one big trouble right at the start created by Ruq which Jodha successfully handles and Jalal likes that ... then the trend can continue over next week's episodes as if the four more days are involved?

so next week we can get to see Jo starting her new career as BEK and facing new challenges and winning over it... so let's expect this track to go for a week, and may be next friday there will be a major Dhamaka... but Today's ME , i m expecting a simple one without any dhamaka...

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Posted: 11 years ago
di...i am busy at the moment...i will write my views once i am back...thats the first thing i am going to do...
all i can for now...i liked the epi in terms of jallu-salima
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Posted: 11 years ago
Standing ovation for ur analysis today, Mansi! Best ever by anyone on this forum ⭐️
So glad u pointed out Jalal's strategy with Ruq so well when everyone was moaning the fact that he was setting up Ruq against Jodha. I also felt what u said about their encounter but u have said it way better than I could ever.

A big 🤗 for u !

Radhika
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Standing ovation for ur analysis today, Mansi! Best ever by anyone on this forum ⭐️

So glad u pointed out Jalal's strategy with Ruq so well when everyone was moaning the fact that he was setting up Ruq against Jodha. I also felt what u said about their encounter but u have said it way better than I could ever.

A big 🤗 for u !

Radhika

Thanks Radhika! A big 🤗 for u !too!
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Posted: 11 years ago
Mansi nice take 👍🏼 .. I feel Jalal wants both Ruqaiyya and Jodha to play a fair game and so he actually applied reverse psychology on both his begums so that both compete in this begum-e-khaas election keeping all other prejudices aside 🤔

Jalal knew that Jodha will never take part in this whole competition unless she is pushed a bit and so he was smart to apply reverse psychology on her by trying to make it sound as if she lacks the courage to compete 😉 ... No wonder Jodha instantly decided to compete which is what Jalal wanted 😎..

Then he goes to Ruqaiyya and tries to instigate her about her hot-headed nature and false ego which is stopping her from competing with Jodha 😉.. no wonder Ruqaiyya too will not want to compete and defeat Jodha to prove Jalal wrong 😆...

So in the end Jalal made sure that both Jodha and Ruqaiyya compete in their own way and then may the best begum wins it ...

In his heart I m sure he wants Jodha to win as the way he is playing reverse psychology with Jodha , its clear that he now wants Jodha to take the centerstage because of her fair decision making and maturity which somewhere Ruqaiyya lacks and Jalal too has understood it now after she made such a huge fuss over the boat ride compared to Jodha who was so cool about it .. 🤔

waiting for maha epi now 😃

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