Jodha Akbar 160: Cat and mouse game with the ghrinit jantu - Page 11

Originally posted by: loveanime

He definitely wants something done BEFORE the nikaah. Is that the surprise the writers are planning something that will redeem his character just a bit. I don't know it is all a toss up at this point, antidote is a good prediction. That could explain why he obliged to go alone with her, if he gets bitten but I would laugh at that he should be thinking I can take this woman I am a soldier damn it but lets assume he assumes he too can slip so to save his own life he has remedy set to go. But this theory does not explain his casual reaction about his avaam dying oh too bad for them attitude. Actually even my prediction doesn't justify his attitude here I can't imagine in the pursuit of his game or chase he puts innocent people in danger or maybe Jalal didn't honestly know that the well was poisonous. This isn't a monogamous relationship he is not going to be like oh damn I have to figure this all out before I betray my 100th wife, he probably doesn't care much for marrying again so he is taking his own sweet time. Even Jodha doesn't care he is marrying again, she is just worried he is marrying an assassin. Maybe the twist in the promo is that Jodha goes to drink it but Jalal knocks it off saying you mad ofcourse it is bloody poisonous I know that but nothing would have happened to me as I already took the antidote. But why the heck are you planning to drink it, have you lost your mind you would have died. The whole court in confusion, Jalal reveals whatever crazy idea that was going on in his zehen, Benazir arrested and executed.

Originally posted by: Ariel

So in the promo Jodha drinks it and faints while Zakira takes forever to faint in the litmus test for Ben .. what is this poison of conveniently varying levels of potency? 😕

Originally posted by: 111192

Zakira drank a small amount that was there in the glass and jodha madam drank one full bowl😆

Originally posted by: lashy

@ Mallika-E-Bhais

She wants to say that she is embarrassed by this attention.

But she actually means she is NOT! Wink

@sashashyam

Yes, of course, Tripti. It is like that old joke about the difference between a lady and a diplomat (from the days when there were no lady diplomats, of course!)

If a diplomat says yes, he means maybe; if he says maybe, he means no, and if he says no, he is no diplomat.

If a lady says no, she means maybe, if she says maybe, she means yes, and if she says yes, she is no lady!😉

It is the same with our Lashy!

@ sashashyam

Sandhya, I think Lashy's drama queen habits are contagious, for now, here you are complaining that I have not replied to your comment on page 2!

@ pallavi003

red.. sharddha di..drama Queen,,,😆😆..Apt title..😉😆😆

😭 Moved on from teasing not-so-brainy Jalal, have we?

Originally posted by: lashy

Still trying to find logic aren't we?😆

Zakira's been in and around the poison lady for ever...breathing her fumes, touching her, handling her stuff etc..so, for all we know - she might be a mini-vishkanya in the making

Jodha is innocent! So, the poison has turanth effect!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

I was not going to write anything about Episode 162 of last night, but I was taken aback to see some posts berating Jodha for being a doormat for putting up with the ugly hoojra changing business. Bu then I should not have been surprised at all, should I?

The fact is that the majority of the forum, for all that they fulminate about Ekta's scripts, love the Ekta-heroine-who-can-never-be-wrong in Jodha, and in the past , they sided with her unreservedly, no matter how unjustifiably and nastily she behaved with her supposed pati.

So now, when the boot is on the other foot, I am not surprised that Jalal is being tarred and feathered across the forum.

The truth is that Jodha had a lot to learn, in the first place how it feels to have someone you have come to care for mock you and ignore you. That is what she did in the old days, after all. It was Shivani's elopement that brought her down with a crash - she actually started calling herself a Mughal khandaan ki Begum - plus the first hand evidence that Benazir was out to murder Jalal.

Which brought her the (still strongly resisted) realisation that she could not bear it if Jalal died. So now we have this Savitri-cum-Durga manquee- cum-what now:? Meera rebooted with the vish ka pyala?

The latest promo, if correct, is a very silly twist, for Benazir is no suicide candidate. She intends to survive and queen it over the empire at the side of Abul Mali, not realising that once he is on the throne, she will be the first person he will have bumped off. How can she do that if Jalal is poisoned openly in a wedding ceremony?

Jalal: Jalal is an idiot now for a different reason from earlier - for not having the GJ (ghrinit jantu) properly investigated and spied on. Anyone from Abul Mali's harem should have been an a priori suspect, and surely it is better to be safe than dead? I do not know what, if anything he has been doing, and whether his constant jibes at Jodha for being jealous of Benazir are just a put on or not, but on the surface at least, he cuts a pretty sorry figure for a Shahenshah.

But all this notwithstanding, my heart went out to him when he says, the almost casual tone belying the depth to the recurrent pain he feels, Par woh ( the jalan against Benazir) hamare liye to nahin ho sakta, kyonki aapne to hamein kabhi apnaya hi nahin.

The only spark of hope re: his grey cells being still alive was the assurance he gives his Ammijaan last night, in that unexpectedly emotional scene between them, that he knows how to face dangers and survive. Maybe he does know what Benazir is up to, but even so, Jalal looks anything but decisive. Or clued up, even in the promo.

Jodha: As for Jodha, she is now smarting under a volley of insults and cold shoulders and persistent disbelief in her fervent assertions re: the GJ's guilt. Even her Ammijaan is apparently not around to lend her a shoulder to weep on. But what goes around comes around, does it not? All of Jodha's chickens have come to roost, that too simultaneously, and it seems, as Meghana put it, to be now payback time for her.

It is another matter that I do not see Jodha being trashed by "everyone", only by this caricature of Ruqaiya Sultan Begum and at times by Mahaam, from whom that is hardly new for Jodha.

As for me, I loved Jodha in last few episodes, especially the one I called Samhaar. For her now all else pales besides the paramount need to save Jalal's life, even if it has to be in spite of Jalal. Faced with such an undertaking, nothing else should matter to her, and I find it highly praiseworthy that nothing does.

How on earth do people expect her to storm out of Agra in a huff because the ugly hoojra changing business, and leave her husband, whose life is at stake, to the mercy of the vishkanya? You cannot be serious. Vicki!

No, Jodha is neither a Persian doormat nor a laundryman's donkey, thank you. She is now a prize specimen of Rajput female tenacity and grit and singlemindedness. She has to save Jalal from the ghrinit jantu, and thought the fates have been tripping her up repeatedly, save him she will. And in order to be able to do that, she will swallow anything that has to be swallowed, her ego in the first place, and continue to stand at her post, like (though it is not a felicitous simile) the boy on the burning deck.

What I do not like is the surety that next week, we will see Jodha canonised by one and all, with Jalal heading the chorus, and reducing himself to a puddle of guilt and regret and grief all mixed up. Not an enticing prospect, but kya karen, majboori hai! Serial dekhna chhod bhi to nahin sakte!

As for the hairsplitting I see about the timing of the vish ka pyala scene - before, after or during the nikaah, I do not care at all. But I still cling to two small but persistent hopes, like candles flickering in the wind.

One , that post the revelation, Jalal apologises to Jodha in a dignified manner, as he did after the dature ka ark affair, and two, that he has been in the know that Benazir is up to no good all along and had asked Atgah to get the antidote to snake venom ready in advance (for himself, but now for Jodha).

Shyamala (Aunty)

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

I was not going to write anything about Episode 162 of last night, but I was taken aback to see some posts berating Jodha for being a doormat for putting up with the ugly hoojra changing business. Bu then I should not have been surprised at all, should I?

The fact is that the majority of the forum, for all that they fulminate about Ekta's scripts, love the Ekta-heroine-who-can-never-be-wrong in Jodha, and in the past , they sided with her unreservedly, no matter how unjustifiably and nastily she behaved with her supposed pati.

So now, when the boot is on the other foot, I am not surprised that Jalal is being tarred and feathered across the forum.

The truth is that Jodha had a lot to learn, in the first place how it feels to have someone you have come to care for mock you and ignore you. That is what she did in the old days, after all. It was Shivani's elopement that brought her down with a crash - she actually started calling herself a Mughal khandaan ki Begum - plus the first hand evidence that Benazir was out to murder Jalal.

Which brought her the (still strongly resisted) realisation that she could not bear it if Jalal died. So now we have this Savitri-cum-Durga manquee- cum-what now:? Meera rebooted with the vish ka pyala?

The latest promo, if correct, is a very silly twist, for Benazir is no suicide candidate. She intends to survive and queen it over the empire at the side of Abul Mali, not realising that once he is on the throne, she will be the first person he will have bumped off. How can she do that if Jalal is poisoned openly in a wedding ceremony?

Jalal: Jalal is an idiot now for a different reason from earlier - for not having the GJ (ghrinit jantu) properly investigated and spied on. Anyone from Abul Mali's harem should have been an a priori suspect, and surely it is better to be safe than dead? I do not know what, if anything he has been doing, and whether his constant jibes at Jodha for being jealous of Benazir are just a put on or not, but on the surface at least, he cuts a pretty sorry figure for a Shahenshah.

But all this notwithstanding, my heart went out to him when he says, the almost casual tone belying the depth to the recurrent pain he feels, Par woh ( the jalan against Benazir) hamare liye to nahin ho sakta, kyonki aapne to hamein kabhi apnaya hi nahin.

The only spark of hope re: his grey cells being still alive was the assurance he gives his Ammijaan last night, in that unexpectedly emotional scene between them, that he knows how to face dangers and survive. Maybe he does know what Benazir is up to, but even so, Jalal looks anything but decisive. Or clued up, even in the promo.

Jodha: As for Jodha, she is now smarting under a volley of insults and cold shoulders and persistent disbelief in her fervent assertions re: the GJ's guilt. Even her Ammijaan is apparently not around to lend her a shoulder to weep on. But what goes around comes around, does it not? All of Jodha's chickens have come to roost, that too simultaneously, and it seems, as Meghana put it, to be now payback time for her.

It is another matter that I do not see Jodha being trashed by "everyone", only by this caricature of Ruqaiya Sultan Begum and at times by Mahaam, from whom that is hardly new for Jodha.

As for me, I loved Jodha in last few episodes, especially the one I called Samhaar. For her now all else pales besides the paramount need to save Jalal's life, even if it has to be in spite of Jalal. Faced with such an undertaking, nothing else should matter to her, and I find it highly praiseworthy that nothing does.

How on earth do people expect her to storm out of Agra in a huff because the ugly hoojra changing business, and leave her husband, whose life is at stake, to the mercy of the vishkanya? You cannot be serious. Vicki!

No, Jodha is neither a Persian doormat nor a laundryman's donkey, thank you. She is now a prize specimen of Rajput female tenacity and grit and singlemindedness. She has to save Jalal from the ghrinit jantu, and thought the fates have been tripping her up repeatedly, save him she will. And in order to be able to do that, she will swallow anything that has to be swallowed, her ego in the first place, and continue to stand at her post, like (though it is not a felicitous simile) the boy on the burning deck.

What I do not like is the surety that next week, we will see Jodha canonised by one and all, with Jalal heading the chorus, and reducing himself to a puddle of guilt and regret and grief all mixed up. Not an enticing prospect, but kya karen, majboori hai! Serial dekhna chhod bhi to nahin sakte!

As for the hairsplitting I see about the timing of the vish ka pyala scene - before, after or during the nikaah, I do not care at all. But I still cling to two small but persistent hopes, like candles flickering in the wind.

One , that post the revelation, Jalal apologises to Jodha in a dignified manner, as he did after the dature ka ark affair, and two, that he has been in the know that Benazir is up to no good all along and had asked Atgah to get the antidote to snake venom ready in advance (for himself, but now for Jodha).

Shyamala (Aunty)