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Posted: 11 years ago
Sandhya, you wretched girl, you will be the death of my poor Jalal. The last sentence is deadly!

Shoo, off with you, you imp!

If you are so hung up on his commitment to absolute (Mughal justice) half his family, plus some outsiders, would have to be executed: Abul Mali, Sharifuddin, Bakshi Banu, Shivani, Tejwant , the list is a long one. There is no such thing as absolute justice, and even modern courts take the circumstances of each case into account.

Unless they collar Zakira and she squeals, which she will, not having any option now that Benazir is gone to dozakh, how is Jalal going to prove that the KT was a vishkanya? There is nothing to connect her with the dak munshi.

And the fauladi seena is in war, why do you say it has gone too?

Shyamala Aunty.


Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Exactly adi

I cant have jalal compromise on justice for anyone jo, tej or pudding.

Faulaad seena gaya, wajood gayi, shaatir dimaag gaya, guroor tho choor choor ho gaya. Ab sirf sense of justice bachaa hai. Woh bhi gaya tho nothing will be left with him.😭

I expect him to scream murder and solve it too. He has to do something other than rolling from one kaksh to another and the dek in the palace na.😕

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Posted: 11 years ago
No wonder you are so good for my morale, Pallavi. If that does happen, I will be doing a jig totally unsuitable for my advanced years, but I shall not care!

Shyamala Aunty

aunty I have a feeling that ben's exit is gonna happen on Monday itself and solely because of the latest TRP fall..so I think your wish is gonna come true..😃😃..btw yup she was not looking good in the shaahi libaas, looking much older than Jalal, but one saving grace was that she was for the first time fully covered..

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you, Pallavi my dear! You are always so good for my morale!

I have done 3 posts this last week, 2 because I wanted to, and one because there was of an imperative demand for it . But the one I really enjoyed doing was this last, and that was solely because of the precap. But for it, I would not have done this post only to chronicle Jodha's tears and tribulations. .

It might seem childish, Pallavi, but I do SO want the precap to be true. It was so splendid and satisfying, with the Durga Stuti playing in the background. And I do not see how the CVs can tamper with and dilute the symbolism of the Durga dushtasamharini by dragging it on. If that is what they do, I will drop out for the next week, for I will be so badly cheesed off.

The funny thing, as I had noted, was that Benazir looks worse in the shahi libaas than she did in the belly dancer costume, or your curtain sheets! I do not know why, but it is so.

The boat thing is a joke, but I suppose there was a boatman at the far end!

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 11 years ago
Yes, Komal, this is very clever and not at all OTT. I love it because you have kept in the 2 points that I want in at all costs:

- the pincushioning of Benazir and
- The Hug.

Lashy was teasing me for being hung up on that hug. I told her that would be a fail safe icebreaker! I cannot think of any rational conversation to clear the air being anything like as effective. There is something very warm and tactile, comforting and reassuring in a tight hug, and Jalal in particular needs that kind of reassurance from Jodha very badly.

Now all we have to do is to possess our souls in patience and hope for something approximating to your scenario or loveanime's to materialise. And if does not, why we can make up our own scenario and visualise it, and the CVs can go jump in the Agra palace waterbody!

Bobby dear, I am proud of you. That is my girl!

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=Bobby13]
WOW!!!. This scenario is so beautiful. How much I wish this to happen. But I am almost sure that our CVs brains do not work in this way and we will end up seeing the most predictable scenario of Ben ending up kissing Jodha. How sad. Now I will be even more disappointed next week when that happens. But I will be brave enough not to sulk and loose my sleep over it as I promised Aunty 😊.

Originally posted by: TheIronLady

Aunty,

I don't want it (Precap) to be a dream at any cost.

I want something like this to happen, where Jo kills Ben by shooting arrows at her, Jalal is shocked for a moment and then he sees Jodha standing at the banks of the river. He with anger approaches her. There she stands not carrying any expressions of guilt. What have you done? Do you even know what will happen to you now?' he will shout at her. But nothing will have any effect on her, then Salima and Moti will try to give explanation for her deed, he'll listen to them but his eyes will never leave her face. Then the next scene is Jalal in his room, worrying about Jodha, thinking how to get her out of this mess. He believes her but is angry because she landed herself in this mess. He will pay her a visit in her room; there he start shouting at her asking her why she risked it? Why she have to go such a length for him? And then there in that moment Jodha will do only one thing and i.e to hug him tightly. She will embrace him in her arms tightly and whisper in his ear 'I don't care. The only thing that matters to me is your safety that's all and nothing else, I cannot lose you.' Jalal will melt in her arms, all his pain, suffering will vanish right there. He will then wrap his arm around her tightly and promise her to get her out of this mess. And then Jalal will himself start the investigation to prove that Ben was a vishkanya.

By this we will get our Jalal in action, we will get the most awaited hug and by the end of this track they will be FOR each other and not AGAINST each other.

Alas! I know the chances of something like this to happen is very low.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you, my dear,and it is very nice to have you back!

I too wish, and have been wishing for a long time, that Abdul, the character if not the actor, could be brought back. He is needed so badly.

Now keep your fingers crossed for the precap to be real. Your idea is very imaginative, but I do not see Jalal, presuming that he does NOT think she is a vishkanya, taking such a risk with a snake.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: baubles

Hello aunty, great to read your post..I'm here after a long time! Lovely analysis!😛

Friday's epi was one of the better ones in this whole track..
The Jodha-Moti scene was lovely..Jo won't accept that she loves Jalal so soon is obvious, but her being almost speechless at the end and unable to give a proper reason to save his life is a lot in itself..
I wish Abdul were there for Jalal at times..a genuine, true friend who could be trusted and with whom Jalal could have shared his feelings..He doesn't give two hoots about Ben..it's only Jo who occupies his mind.
Prison rules in JA are non-existent..😆
Precap looks good..but it's going to be difficult to prove that Ben is a vishkanya if she dies...
Wouldn't it be a better idea to let a snake near her..when Jalal is around? It would just bite her and die.. 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you, my dear Radhika,and welcome to my threads!

Yes, that looked totally incredible, the two of them in a small boat. But if Benazir really gets pincushioned, I am prepared to forgive the CVs all these bloomers!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Shymala Aunty, I like ur post v much.

I agree with u - how can Jalal be allowed to go alone with Ben in a boat at night when its known there's a spy in the palace who can harm him? When Jalal wanted to go boating earlier, Atga had wanted to send his soldiers with him. What happened now?

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Posted: 11 years ago
Forgive me for not managing to discuss your beautiful posts for a long time. I have completely given up on the show. At least for now.
Your analysis is as lovely as ever.
But I lack the patience to sit through the so-called epic love story that was promised to us, for it is anything but.
I loved your reference to Ek Boond Ishq last day. Now, that is one desperate love story, and everything we want this one to be.
You must also try Sadda Haq. I have started to watch it since last week, and it's so good that I keep advertising it everywhere.
Lost of love, Ma'am. ❤️
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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear Adiana,

I agree completely with your take on that scene. But it is also true that the last bastion is always the highest.

So many here have been saying that The Letter, and thus The Shove, have to be got out of the way before Jalal can make his peace with his own inner anguish at being rejected after having been, as he sees it, led on by Jodha.

I do not think the letter issue is going to be cleared any time soon, if at all.At the most, Jodha might learn at some point that Jalal cannot read, and then the explanation for the whole fiasco might occur to her. But not rightaway. And even then, how can she convince Jalal of that without enraging him, for he will never trust anything she says against Mahaam.

Which is when my scenario of The Hug comes in (everything concerning Jalal and Jodha must of course be capitalised!).

Lashy was teasing me for being hung up on that hug. I told her that would be a fail safe icebreaker! I cannot think of any rational conversation to clear the air being anything like as effective. There is something very warm and tactile, comforting and reassuring in a tight hug, and Jalal in particular needs that kind of reassurance from Jodha very badly.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: adianasr

Waise Shyamala I have to say this - if you remember the epi where Chudail wears the Mughal costume - towards the end when TE handed her the payal and said 'Sambhal ke rakhyega' - it almost seemed it was his heart and soul he was placing in her hand and saying those words!!!

That scene definitely gives me hope that somewhere Jalal has already faced his demons and is at the last bastion!!!

I am really waiting to see RT's take when TE's last bastion falls - it will be definitely worth a dekko!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear, a very beautiful, plausible and not at all OTT scenario. My felicitations!

@red
it is a teeny weeny bit dicey, but who cares so long as it is all wrapped up so neatly, and The Letter-and-The Shove nasoor in Jalal's zehen is also lanced and healed? And you even have The Hug! What more could I ask for?

One little thing: please cut out the "for now" at the very end. I do not want their Tom and Jerry act to restart the very next day!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: loveanime

I concur with all of you precap would be the best way for the track to end. Anything else would be a damp squid. Aunty is right the dhamaka that would come out of this would be far more exciting than seeing ben bite either jalal or jodha so cliche, or seeing her squirm for poison and give herself away too boring yawn. I don't like to predict anything because what I want never happens but this is a bit too tempting.


Jodha shoots ben down and she falls in the water. Jalal too stumped to react to catch Ben from falling and he looks around sees Jodha standing with her bow high at the banks. Jalal shocked caring too hoots about Ben body rows his boat furiously to meet her. This should be a cracker of a scene, Jodha and Jalal confronting each other in my imagination should be the best scene in the show so far. Jodha doesn't offer any real explanation she only says she did what had to do to save him, Jalal at that moment sees what he always wanted to see Jodha does care for him so much so she will commit murder. He doesn't accuse her of anything he is only processing what he is going to do next to protect Jodha it doesn't matter to him if she is right or wrong. He grabs her hand leads her away Salima and Moti come to offer their explanations but he doesn't care to listen, he orders them to leave for the palace and not to talk or tell anyone the truth.

I am going to predict we switch to DEK scene where it is announced that Ben is dead, Jalal states that he has killed her that Jodha was right she was indeed a Vishkanya and she tried to kill him so he killed her instead. MA and Ruq everyone too shocked to even respond. No one will question Jalal on the details because he is shehenshah and everyone will take his word for it. Jodha stands up maybe to confess but Jalal silences her to not speak out of turn. DEK scene concludes with Atgha Khan ordered to find out all the spies of Abul Mali.

Next Jodha, Jalal, Salima and Moti private moment where Jodha asks why he took the blame did he really find any proof against Ben, Jalal says I didn't need any real proof your act was proof enough. The reality is it would be against her status to commit murder even if you are correct. However it is better for him to admit because he is shehenshah he can kill whoever he wants with or without proof no one will dare say anything. If you had confessed there would have been a trial, you would have to prove you are not guilty, you might or might not have succeeded and we all know what happened last DEK when you tried and failed. If you didn't succeed I would lose you forever I couldn't take such a risk, even if you did succeed either ways your image will be tarnished in court. It is a lose lose situation for me I will not tolerate my biwi accused in court of murder even if she did it for the right reasons, I will not have anyone fling any dirt on you. Justice was done to me it does not matter if you did it or I did it, my lying was not to protect a culprit, for Shehenshah justice should be all relations it still is, but I lied to protect my wife image not her crime. Salima and Moti dismissed at this point ordered by Jalal never to speak about Ben ever again, promise to take the secret to their graves.

Jodha deeply moved it is not just her even Jalal would go to any lengths to protect her. Jodha states this is the second time he protected her honour by taking the blame, Jalal states her honour is his. Jodha offers her apologies for everything for all the hurt she has caused him, Jalal understands now that she does care for him. They promise to forget the Ben incident and it shall be their secret and knowing too well neither Salima or Moti will never speak of it again. Jalal also confesses he was deeply hurt after that shove night but he wants to move past it and they both agree to forget that night, forget the letter, forget Ben and move forward in their relationship, the scene ends with a nice hug, both their wounds healed for now.

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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear, WHERE have you been? I missed you a lot, but then I did not want to harass you with PMs. I am delighted to have you with me again!

I too have been doing my bit to recommend Ek Boond Ishq, and I am very, very sorry that Viraf is planning to leave the show for films. I can understand his decision, but without him, that poor kid Chhavi cannot keep it afloat, least of all at this present level.

Where is Sadda Huq telecast? The title reminds me of Rockstar and that song.

Affectionately,

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Forgive me for not managing to discuss your beautiful posts for a long time. I have completely given up on the show. At least for now.

Your analysis is as lovely as ever.
But I lack the patience to sit through the so-called epic love story that was promised to us, for it is anything but.
I loved your reference to Ek Boond Ishq last day. Now, that is one desperate love story, and everything we want this one to be.
You must also try Sadda Haq. I have started to watch it since last week, and it's so good that I keep advertising it everywhere.
Lost of love, Ma'am. ❤️

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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear. your scenario is so bubbly and enthusiastic that I could not understand all of it. Never mind, you are all for the precap being real,and that is what matters for me! Thank you!!

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: RagSia

Ben kisi bhi angle se begum na lage ye hi bhagwan ka decision hai.
Lol!
Btw it might not b dream.
A truth! Bt Jo z a dhanurdhar, skilled enough to not let Ben die!
N my guess z a wailing Ben will b taken back to Agra or mosque where hakim will declare her vishkanya!
I wonder what if she manages to servive n cook up story of vishari baan!
Bt truth will b exposed.
N no my dear aunt!!!
Jo should not come forefront!
She better not!
She will cook up vrat story in mehel to run out n dispatch another set to mandir, fully gjunghatified, z my guess!
As to y Jo should not come in front of Jalal, he will b damn crazy on her. N can anyhow find truth later!
Plus he z totally aware of his overflowing wid hunar typo begum n seen her triplet!
😉
So he shall doubt her.
Let him b gratefull n her be bhav khau (masti typo) n reject her role!
N his inability to find (prove) culprit or life saver actually!!!
It can become a full of fun track!
N yeah!!
Precap was full on dhamakedaar!

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