16th Jan JA-JO 'Why sasurji, why?' 'Why Bapusa, why?'

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Posted: 11 years ago
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JALAL VS BHARMAL

Yesterday quite a few were slapping their foreheads when Jalal pointed his fingers at Bharmal- wondering if this was another brain-freeze moment of his. However, the biggest shock came when it turns out that Raja Bharmal was indeed aware of the entire escapade and had ended up hiding everything from the Sultanat and from Jalal!😕

I can't believe that a man I'd otherwise considered noble would cheat his own son-in-law in this fashion - the very son-in-law who'd fulfilled more than his fair share of responsibilies in helping his second daughter's wedding go through! [Playing with Jalal and Jodha's characterizations weren't enough, so they jumped on to Bharmal now? And when we say Bharmal, we shouldn't forget Bhagwant Das either - he is just as much to blame in all of it!]

'You found a solution for your difficulties through my humiliation?' Jalal questions his father-in-law rightfully so - his maner still composed 'You've adviced me well on many issues in the past...so, please tell me what punishment should I mete you?'
It was a cringe-worthy scene indeed to see the father-in-law kneel in front of the Shehenshah thus. On the other hand, Jalal kneeling down to give the man's relationship respect was laud-worthy!

Even though the majority of the blame lies with Shivani, I cannot absolve Bharmal of his sins either -
As a mansabdaar it was his duty to inform the Shehenshah of any such developments in the matter
As a father-in-law, it was his obligation to let Jalal know of the prime reason of why he was going ahead with this. Wouldn't Hakim's life had been affected, if Shivani had gone ahead with some silly plans AFTER the wedding?

If Shivani has been responsible for the humiliation of her clan, Bharmal is no less - had he been upfront from the beginning it would have saved him and his family a lot of heartache. He's ended up jeopardizing one daughter's life/family to save another's and it doesn't make much sense to me. So now, Jodha has to suffer for the Ameris fault?

JALAL VS HAKIM
I am glad Jalal gave Hakim the example of Shareefuddin and Bakshi Bano. It makes no sense to ask the culprits to be forgiven just because the crimes were one of 'love'! If that's the case then all the young men who carry crimes of 'passion' against the women they are obsessed with can request to be excused based on the fact that they are 'in love' too. True, in this day and age running from the wedding mandap might not be as big an issue, but this is a royal wedding in the 16th century, we're talking about.

Hakim is very large-hearted in forgiving Bharmal and Shivani, however he cannot rule an Empire with the principles he was meting today. (I still can't believe this man is going to turn against Jalal in future🤔)
However, Jalal is right in his stance of not excusing the culprits. I was glad when he didn't forgive BB - rightfully, he shouldn't forgive Bharmal or Shivani/Tejwant too. Hakim was within his 'legal' rights to have Bharmal pardoned - but, I hope Jalal gives Shivani/Tej at least some form of punishment - because if not, he's only going to look partial/unjust when he does so!

By making Hakim proclaim an 'Aakhir mohabbat hai' statement the CVs have downplayed the crime committed. Then, the lady in the court the other day who had a lover was also justified because she was only in love with a man other than her husband! Why was she alone stoned? (I definitely DON'T WANT Shivani/Tej to undergo such a thing 😆, but they need to be incarcerated)

If not, all the culprits will begin coming out with such sob-stories and request to be forgiven in court. So, would the judge just pardon them? Also, if Jalal forgives his own family, he is only setting a wrong example for the rest of the Sultanat - obviously, Jalal is not going to go about forgiving all his subjects now, is he?😕

HB
HB forgiving Bharmal made no sense whatsoever!😕 They could have shown her at least momentarily saddened or offended! Instead, she's asking them to stay back and celebrate Shivraatri! This scene was so unbelievable, I didn't even know what to say. 😕

JODHA
The only people I feel sorry for it at the end of it all are Jalal, Mirza Hakim and Jodha. Having said that, I wish Jodha had not requested Jalal to forgive Bharmal. Yes, she is emotional and anyone would be pained as a daughter to see what the father was going through. However, I would have liked her to remain silent in the matter.
Watching Jodha in the last scene - in that room - crying to herself was adorable indeed. Her anger against her family and the 'impressed'/'touched' expressions she had on her face when she learnt that the Shehenshah had forgiven her father was Pari at her best!
Her final lambasting against her family was aggrieving, but a necessary one! I liked all that she said - because, it was all true!

PRECAP
Again interesting - lets see how it pans out!

MY TAKE
They need not have had the Ameris involved in this scandal at all - it's reflected quite poorly on the entire clan (unless history has some other tit bits to offer that we know not about)
Are the makers not worried about the protests now? I thought Shivani eloping was bad enough...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


MY TAKE
They need not have had the Ameris involved in this scandal at all - it's reflected quite poorly on the entire clan (unless history has some other tit bits to offer that we know not about)
Are the makers not worried about the protests now? I thought Shivani eloping was bad enough...


That is what I thought. The Rajkarni sena was up-in-arms against the show from the starting for showing Rajputs in poor light, according to them. The makers should have handled this more sensitively. They are playing with fire for the sake of trps.
Edited by ann2012 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well Lashy dear, atleast Jalal ka deductive abilities seem to have returned. His take on BM knwing was spot on. As for his interaction with BM I am impressed with the majesty and maturity of the Emperor.

And as his norm, the ultimate judgement on BM was given to MH who decided to forgive BM - shades of BB here perhaps???

And my guess even Shivani - Tej will be forgiven by MH. Only hope Jalal gets the chance to punish the brats for having shamed the Emperor since that is something that was done to him
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Rajputs are known for their code and honor. Their word is their word. When they promise something, they fulfill it , even if that means facing death. The CVS are playing with fire as someone stated. You have Jaipur Royal Family on one side, and than protesters. Why do i feel like this is gonna stir up some trouble?🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sona_naksh

nice post ..agree wid u

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann2012


That is what I thought. The Rajkarni sena was up-in-arms against the show from the starting for showing Rajputs in poor light. The makers should have handled this more sensitively. They are playing with fire for the sake of trps.

They were up in arms for the makers portraying a love story between Rajput and Mughal, when none existed apparently...
I don't think the show has ever depicted any Rajput in poor light (except maybe for sujamal) and even with him they showed justification...😊
This was a needless twist in the show...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lashy Kanna,
Am not sure if they are slaughtering Bharmal's characterization now to show Jalaal' accurate perception... But I more than agree they could've left the Ameri gang out of this.
It seems like a growing pattern where to show the smartness of one character another is brought down.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Well Lashy dear, atleast Jalal ka deductive abilities seem to have returned. His take on BM knwing was spot on. As for his interaction with BM I am impressed with the majesty and maturity of the Emperor.

And as his norm, the ultimate judgement on BM was given to MH who decided to forgive BM - shades of BB here perhaps???

And my guess even Shivani - Tej will be forgiven by MH. Only hope Jalal gets the chance to punish the brats for having shamed the Emperor since that is something that was done to him

WORD! The one person who made most sense today was jalal...and then Jodha...mirza hakim looked cute being forgiving and all, but really ...this is not how things would have worked...obviously, they needed to show him thus for the story to go forward - we can't have raja Bharmal in jail can we? 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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they should not have involved bharmal in this ...kya zaroorat tha...

also are the insults and humiliations for jodha in Agra any less that they have taken away one thing she held with all her might..her pride in her parents ,her upbringing and her Amer ka shaan...she is so ashamed she will never be able to answer back

i want jallu to punish shivani and kanghiman even if MH forgives them...love ke naan par they committed a crime and played with the emotions and pride of two families...

i feel bad for jallu ,mh but most for jodha ...poor poor girl ...kya family hai ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

Rajputs are known for their code and honor. Their word is their word. When they promise something, they fulfill it , even if that means facing death. The CVS are playing with fire as someone stated. You have Jaipur Royal Family on one side, and than protesters. Why do i feel like this is gonna stir up some trouble?🤔

I agree...I mean there is bound to have been some rotten apples...not everyone in an entire clan is always righteous...
but, I don't think the Ameris were so...and so, they need not have portrayed them thus...😕

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