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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post Lashy and wonderful analysis.😃 I agree with all your points. You are quite fair while analysing both the lead characters and also the side ones (including Ruq, Maham and company) Be it Jodha's turmoil, Ruqaiya's statements or Jalal's decision, everyone was making sense yesterday. Finally, Jalal used his brain... But pata nahi, kitne din tak😉 On the whole the episode turned out quite well. Didn't expect it to be good. In fact I was dreading it. Let's see how the episode unfolds tomorrow.
I have only one problem, why is Jalal illiterate. Look even Resham can read and that too in shudh Hindi😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: lashy

😲
Welcome dear...welcome welcome diva, and thank you for your lovely lovely words 😃
A fellow Akdha fan, I hope 😃
Would live to see many more from your end😳


Definitely an Akdha fan! I love observing each of their interactions- whether it is Jodha's look at Jalal before leaving his room or the precap.

I am hoping for a similar surprise from the CVs on the Benezir track. Yesterday, when Jalal mentioned that nobody can make him a bewaqoof I was hoping that applied to Ben as well. However, if Jalal already knows about Ben I am not sure how Jodha and Sharif will get credit for saving him. What a mess has been created with Ben! I don't see how it can be closed without a loophole.

I guess we can celebrate the partial return of Jalal's intelligence for now. After that, we will need to watch the show leaving our intelligence behind.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Pals2411

Great post Lashy and wonderful analysis.😃 I agree with all your points. You are quite fair while analysing both the lead characters and also the side ones (including Ruq, Maham and company) Be it Jodha's turmoil, Ruqaiya's statements or Jalal's decision, everyone was making sense yesterday. Finally, Jalal used his brain... But pata nahi, kitne din tak😉 On the whole the episode turned out quite well. Didn't expect it to be good. In fact I was dreading it. Let's see how the episode unfolds tomorrow.

I have only one problem, why is Jalal illiterate. Look even Resham can read and that too in shudh Hindi😉



Maybe Mayhem deliberately did not let him learn so she can control her puppet😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: divyavm


Definitely an Akdha fan! I love observing each of their interactions- whether it is Jodha's look at Jalal before leaving his room or the precap.

I am hoping for a similar surprise from the CVs on the Benezir track. Yesterday, when Jalal mentioned that nobody can make him a bewaqoof I was hoping that applied to Ben as well. However, if Jalal already knows about Ben I am not sure how Jodha and Sharif will get credit for saving him. What a mess has been created with Ben! I don't see how it can be closed without a loophole.

I guess we can celebrate the partial return of Jalal's intelligence for now. After that, we will need to watch the show leaving our intelligence behind.



I think Jalal will be so occupied with the Shivani mess he will not give much thought to other matters
Jodha will learn from Sh & save Jalal

I hope Ben truth coming out will make HAMIDA BANU or SOMEBODY ask questions to Mayhem what she is doing as Vazir?
Mayhem is the FIRST to accuse everybody else, SHOUTING & SCREAMING, somebody should ask her why she got Ben to Jalal, thereby risking Jalal's life
It is MAYHEM who has put Jalal's life at risk so she should be anwerable

Let Mayhem ANSWER tough questions for once


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Posted: 11 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Maybe Mayhem deliberately did not let him learn so she can control her puppet😃

Hope my message reaches you both dears...
Jalal was not illiterate by choice...he was illiterate by compulsion...

He was a man who was gravely interested not only in Mughal literature etc...he was a man interested in literature that spanned across various cultures, religions and traditions...
It is said he used to have people read out such works to him ...works he couldn't read himself, because he was dyslexic...he was UNABLE to read or write...obviously there was no Taarey Zameen Par style training in those days...otherwise...when even the women in his family were highly literate why wouldn't he be?

However the fact that he couldn't read or write was compensated by the fact that he could recite long texts and verses after being read out to him just once...
That bit was highlighted during that poetry episode if you remember... Jodhas poetry is read out to him once and he says it by heart back to her in her chamber...
With this handicap, he managed to rule, administer and unite a large part of the nation quite successfully...
I knew of Akbar before I came to the forum...it is after coming here, I realized why the suffix Great was used...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: divyavm


Definitely an Akdha fan! I love observing each of their interactions- whether it is Jodha's look at Jalal before leaving his room or the precap.

I am hoping for a similar surprise from the CVs on the Benezir track. Yesterday, when Jalal mentioned that nobody can make him a bewaqoof I was hoping that applied to Ben as well. However, if Jalal already knows about Ben I am not sure how Jodha and Sharif will get credit for saving him. What a mess has been created with Ben! I don't see how it can be closed without a loophole.

I guess we can celebrate the partial return of Jalal's intelligence for now. After that, we will need to watch the show leaving our intelligence behind.

LORD Divya, I never realized how far autocorrect had skewed my words in my reply to you😆 But you understood the jist...😳

I genuinely genuinely hope he had something up his sleeve...if not, at least let them show he was going through a low phase in his life...a form of depression, if nothing else...especially during the Benazir Tasneem track...some form of justification...
Otherwise it looks so unbelievable that an otherwise astute mans brains work overtime in some aspects and completely switch off in others
Thanks Divya...😳

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Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: lashy

Here, people have asked how they'd like the episodes to unfold...
I've typed it out here ...
Ok how I'd like them to go on...😳

As long as they show Tej in prison, Shivani nazar bandh for a few days...
😊

Through this, Jodha watches jalal with pleading eyes, but doesn't plead cos she knows her sister is wrong...jalal realizes it but doesn't succumb!
I doubt Jodha will plead for Shivani, she might for Bharmal

At a later date, jalal comes across Tej's donkey kaarigari by chance and gets impressed! He later gets to know this is tejwant ka screwdriver ka kamaal!😆
😆 Yes Tej can spend his life using screwdriver & Shivani can carry the pathhars for nakkashi on her head😆😃😃

He sees bharmals loyalty and the Ameri dignity in all of it...he then speaks to bharmal the depressed dad ...who now has no hopes of any rishtaa for his useless daughter...or even any proper life for her...
I frankly don't care what happens to Shivani & Tej

Feeling sorry for Jo and bharmal, he decides to elevate Tej to master donkey kaarigar of the sultanate and gets Shivani married to him.
Answer given above again😆

And oh yes, his wedding to Ben is a master plan all along...rahim, had already read the letter to hi long Back...
Ben😡🤬 as long as nagin goes to her bil or whereever they send her,

Since Rukayya gave Jalal some strong tana yesterday about shikari & hirni he might get disturbed & try to show it is not true by Ben

Jodha should save Jalal from Ben then that will further shut up Mayhem Ruk etc.

This way EVERYONE is happy!😃

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Hope my message reaches you both dears...
Jalal was not illiterate by choice...he was illiterate by compulsion...

He was a man who was gravely interested not only in Mughal literature etc...he was a man interested in literature that spanned across various cultures, religions and traditions...
It is said he used to have people read out such works to him ...works he couldn't read himself, because he was dyslexic...he was UNABLE to read or write...obviously there was no Taarey Zameen Par style training in those days...otherwise...when even the women in his family were highly literate why wouldn't he be?

However the fact that he couldn't read or write was compensated by the fact that he could recite long texts and verses after being read out to him just once...
That bit was highlighted during that poetry episode if you remember... Jodhas poetry is read out to him once and he says it by heart back to her in her chamber...
With this handicap, he managed to rule, administer and unite a large part of the nation quite successfully...
I knew of Akbar before I came to the forum...it is after coming here, I realized why the suffix Great was used...

Yes, Lashy. Even I have read about his great interest in various religions, poetry and paintings. He was quite knowledgeable in terms of arts and literature. I read that he used to make others read to gain knowledge. What I have also read is that he used to have religious sessions (I don't know what it is called may be discourses) where knowledgeable persons of different religions used to come and have discussions and debates. He seemed to enjoy them a lot, thereby also increasing his knowledge (also the reason why he is tolerant towards other religions).
As for his reading capability, yes it was due to compulsion and circumstances that I think he was not literate. I think he was dyslexic as well (that is what I read in some site). He started reading and writing quite a bit but that was quite late in his life, However he struggled a lot and hence made people read out to him even after learning to read/write a bit.
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post shradda di...😛...Still in shock tat Jalal actually beleived her...😲...Well I really didn see that coming...😆😊...Oh boy am happy 😃 he used his brains this time & proved to ruqu he is not this love sick majnoo all the time...He took the decision as an emperor & gave the reason for believing jodha too...👏...I knew from that MA's plan would fail the moment she started explaining her master plan in detail...😆 😆...But i ll say she didn fail miserably..😡 😡...Which i wanted to v badly...lets see wat happens...Poor bharmal......He has to bear the brunt for this good for nothin daughter of his...😡...She deserves a dozen slaps...Btw nice epi 😳 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandyg

hey lashy..a slightly better episode as compared to few previous ones..seems like cvz are recuperating like rajat..rajat seemed to be a bit toned down..maybe he still has weakness but looked way better than before..i will give cvz benefit of doubt, because of rajat's injury and illness they had to incorporate few unwanted tracks on the spot..i felt similar situation happened when 90 people walked out..i guess if the show is going to be stretched we will have to be prepared for similar situations in the future as well!

and as far as ruq's questions r concerned i too have similar questions but only time and ekta will tell what will come out of jalal's character in the future..abhi to issi se hi guzara karna parega..for a change he did not listen to ruq and trusted his gut feeling..he knows that jodha will not do anything like this especially to hurt someone..and here her pyaara dewar is hurt!

the rest was ok..maham in her usual self and thank god that miss kujji and kangaman eloped..at least we don't have to watch them again..but who knows jalal ke sipahi usse dhoondane gaye hain! god save me the horror! what if kangaman and kujji comes back and they get some padwi and then get married with honor..uff cvz please no!

Very well stated points Mandy...all of them
The show was at its lowest in the previous debacle when those 90 walked out...
However the benazir angle was brought in even before RT sustained that injury, so I'm not letting them off the hook completely😆
But yes, some of the wispy washy bits are possibly due to RTs injury...let's hope for a better future 😳
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago

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