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Posted: 11 years ago
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I read the WU, will do a marathon catching up during the weekend if it turns out worthwhile.
LAshy Kanna, I think this time, Jalaal analysed the letters carefully and used the facts in front of him...
But am not so sure if its the trust.
What would've been the case had Shivani's letter to Jodha didn't make it to their hands?
How would he have reacted?
Tough to say.
I see a lot of relieved posts... It does look like we all expected a lot of drama and in the process pleasantly surprised.
Now why would Jalaal jump to the conclusion Barmal knew abt this? Just when I begin to entertain the thought that okay, our Jalaal's senses are returning, I see that assumption made by him.
Again not sure how its gonna play out.
Amidst all this how does the Ben ...a Begum drama fit in?
Anycase thankfully her end is coming nearer.
So no Ben today? Good- A chance to air out the clothes😆😆😆😆😆Poor female has to wear the same every day!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: realitybites

🤣teleporting Maham!! Inspired from Star trek.

Yes the episode surprised viewers as Jalal trusts Jodha without much ado and much to the chagrin of Ruq who did her best to rile up Jalal. All this should make Jalal ponder over why the letters were being found openly in Jodha's room and who went there to search for them. Perhaps all this is planned by someone who wants to pull Jodha down.

Now that'd be too much to ask of any serial that's not of the CID genre..that amount of logic is generally devoid in most serials..😆

Now its to be seen whether the real culprit-Maham is revealed or not at least to Jodha. How Bharmal saves himself and are Shivani-Tej caught? Hope this gets proper closure. Unattended issue is not fair.
I'm still curious to see how the Jalal-Bharmal angle is shot...
Thanks for your views!😃

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree Lashy...we had a good epi today..meaningful...👍🏼
I felt so bad for Jodha when she was dreading to face Shehenshah...she was ashamed like no end...she thought about Mughal saltanat...she thought from a Begum's point of view *pats her back*👏

when the daasi told her abt Shehenshah's bulawa..the look on her face was outstanding ! she turned white...

Ruqu presented Jodha's case in the best possible manner, left no stone unturned to instigate Jalal against her..even Jalal was fuming but admidst all these, he didnt forget to think...he didnt let his gussa overpower his analytical ability..👏

Jodha ashamed, devastated but with conviction explaining how she does not have any hint of these letters found in her room...Ruqu was abt to speak...here comes our Jallu ! "yeh jhooth nahi bolrahi hai Ruqaiyah" what ?😲 did I hear it right ??😲 did Jallu say that ??😲 am I dreaming ?🤪 tan tana !!! the return of Jalal's shaatir dimag !😎
I stood up and jumped, clapped for his this one dialogue ! afterwards what he said was praiseworthy ! Jalal rocked it today...👏

at last he said "humari nigaho pe yakeen hai humein" awww..I guess Jodha's tears yet truth-filled eyes was enough to read her sacchai.😳

u know Lashy, JJ chahe kisi bhi circumstances se guzre, chahe unke beech ka rishta kaisa bhi ho..ek baat ka dawa karsakti hoon ab, their trust will never be shaken which was built in the last "fake preggy" track.

MA's plan backfired ! I am fearing for Raja Bharmal..he will be broken to learn abt Shivani's elopement with a kaarigar...ab Jalal ka kaher bhi unpe hi padega..waise sharm se muh nahi dikha payenge...feeling so bad for him..hope jaise Jallu ko Jodha pe yakeen waise hi Amerwalo pe ho.

precap: confusing ! was Jallu talking abt getting Shivani-Tej back or Raja Bharmal left Agra too?😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maybe the collective duas from the forum for the upward swing was responded to by the Universe. Woh kaha hai - ki jab kisi cheez ko itni shiddat se chaho toh saari kaynaat usse tum tak pahunchane mei lag jaati hai!!!😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

I read the WU, will do a marathon catching up during the weekend if it turns out worthwhile.

LAshy Kanna, I think this time, Jalaal analysed the letters carefully and used the facts in front of him...
But am not so sure if its the trust.
What would've been the case had Shivani's letter to Jodha didn't make it to their hands?
How would he have reacted?
Tough to say.
I see a lot of relieved posts... It does look like we all expected a lot of drama and in the process pleasantly surprised.
Now why would Jalaal jump to the conclusion Barmal knew abt this? Just when I begin to entertain the thought that okay, our Jalaal's senses are returning, I see that assumption made by him.
Again not sure how its gonna play out.
Amidst all this how does the Ben ...a Begum drama fit in?
Anycase thankfully her end is coming nearer.
So no Ben today? Good- A chance to air out the clothes😆Poor female has to wear the same every day!

I do agree that we're more pleasantly surprised because we expected worse...
see my replies to aunty...that scene did make some sense however!
As for why he suspected Bharmal - when I heard of it over WA, I was 😕 too!
But then, he explained - and even Jo didn't say much in her father's defence!

Jalal's explanation from episode -
It is a known fact that Rajvanshis preferred having their daughters wedded into Rajvanshi families because if not the DILs would have had to convert their religions (Jalal was an exception)
That's why Jalal had arranged for Sukanya's wedding with a Rajvanshi and would have done the same for Shivani too.
However, this time Bharmal and co seemed too eager for this proposal, showing no sign of apprehension with this Rajvanshi-Mughal alliance (this when they didn't even know that Hakim Mirza liked Sukanya!)
Also, he was puzzled that Bharmal sent his daughter in advance and then all this happened...
so, he suspects Bharmal must have known of all this before-hand!
Let's see how it plays out tomorrow...

Hope it makes sense 😳...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Maybe the collective duas from the forum for the upward swing was responded to by the Universe. Woh kaha hai - ki jab kisi cheez ko itni shiddat se chaho toh saari kaynaat usse tum tak pahunchane mei lag jaati hai!!!😉


That or the creatives also ran out of ideas of how to show Jalal at his lowest low 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

I agree Lashy...we had a good epi today..meaningful...👍🏼

I felt so bad for Jodha when she was dreading to face Shehenshah...she was ashamed like no end...she thought about Mughal saltanat...she thought from a Begum's point of view *pats her back*👏when the daasi told her abt Shehenshah's bulawa..the look on her face was outstanding ! she turned white...
Yup dear...😃

Ruqu presented Jodha's case in the best possible manner, left no stone unturned to instigate Jalal against her..even Jalal was fuming but admidst all these, he didnt forget to think...he didnt let his gussa overpower his analytical ability..👏
True!...however, I agree with what Ruqaiyya said too..though not with her instigating Jalal against Jodha...but with her 'why have you become so weak?' statements...cos she was right...😳

Jodha ashamed, devastated but with conviction explaining how she does not have any hint of these letters found in her room...Ruqu was abt to speak...here comes our Jallu ! "yeh jhooth nahi bolrahi hai Ruqaiyah" what ?😲 did I hear it right ??😲 did Jallu say that ??😲 am I dreaming ?🤪 tan tana !!! the return of Jalal's shaatir dimag !😎
I stood up and jumped, clapped for his this one dialogue ! afterwards what he said was praiseworthy ! Jalal rocked it today...👏
I'm not celebrating too early...abhi picture baaki hai..ben is still here, remember?😆

at last he said "humari nigaho pe yakeen hai humein" awww..I guess Jodha's tears yet truth-filled eyes was enough to read her sacchai.😳
😳
u know Lashy, JJ chahe kisi bhi circumstances se guzre, chahe unke beech ka rishta kaisa bhi ho..ek baat ka dawa karsakti hoon ab, their trust will never be shaken which was built in the last "fake preggy" track.
Awww...am happy to see you so happy!...😃
MA's plan backfired ! I am fearing for Raja Bharmal..he will be broken to learn abt Shivani's elopement with a kaarigar...ab Jalal ka kaher bhi unpe hi padega..waise sharm se muh nahi dikha payenge...feeling so bad for him..hope jaise Jallu ko Jodha pe yakeen waise hi Amerwalo pe ho.

precap: confusing ! was Jallu talking abt getting Shivani-Tej back or Raja Bharmal left Agra too?😕
It was Shivani-Tej...these two do need to be punished though...

Thanks Tamy 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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updated comment on pg 1. plz chk.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


THE SOMBRE WEDDING HALL
Obviously becomes more sombre once the 'We have no news of the bride' is announced.
Jalal's initial handling of the issue - the manner in which he questions Bharmal gently and then doles out instructions to ensure the queen/princess is safe is a treat to watch!👏
Good King, as usual👍🏼

JODHA'S TURMOIL
This situation is a woeful one for any girl to be in - to be thus betrayed by one's own and then having to face and explain the situation to remaining relatives is very aggrieving in more ways than one.
I'm hoping she will understand Jalal's hurt in BB issue now.
She was mistaken in not seeking out Shivani's opinions in the matter initially, however; at this point Shivani has taken matters just too far!
'With what face will I approach Bapusa...the Shehenshah' she sobs
'Hopefully Shivani wasn't kidnapped...hopefully she wasn't brainwashed by someone'
I'm glad that one of her prime worries were for the Mughal Sultanat's pride and status!😊
I was happy that she thought about concern for Shahenshah in the temple. But back at the palace, it is only Bapusa and Amer again...😕

MA
Gawd! This MA is such a brainy vamp - she's successfully mastered the art of playing dirty politics to such an extent that none other can sniff her ploys at this juncture OR match up to her skewed cognitive abilities - at least in the near future!

A side note - Hmmm, we've been rebuking all the leads in the show of being shown incapable in front of MA. However; think of it this way - none other in that family is capable of being so dastardly or thinking as viciously as her! Thus, she succeeds. Even Lord Krishna was unable to completely stop Shaguni mama's plans from taking effect - these characters are humans, after all! All evil will reach its fitting end one day and so will hers.
It still surprises me that a lady of MA's cunning and smarts is foolish enough to leave Shivaani's letter to Jodha in the bundle which will logically bail out Jodha. Doesn't vibe. Seems to be done with the sole purpose of giving a loop for Jodha to come out in the clear.

RUQAIYYA-JALAL
Initially - i.e. during the first two sentences - with Ruqaiyya's statements, I had presumed she was turning more and more one-dimensional and was about to mentally switch off! However, today her following monologue made a whole load of sense -

'She has reduced you from the status of an Emperor to that of a hunter...a hunter who runs behind the deer thinking he's trying to trap her..but, only the deer knows that SHE's making the hunter dance to her tunes! What has made you so weak lately? Where is that daring fearless warrior I knew of...stop thinking like a hunter and start thinking like an Emperor again!'
And once more, I felt like thanking Ruqaiya for voicing all our questions. We called him dumb and she went a step further and called him bewakoof! Congrats. But unfortunately Jalal has undergone mutation and has no more taap and no more gussa. (read against Jodha Begum only). He bestows them only on Ruqaiya she holds the mirror to him.


THAT and the fact that we got to see glimpses of a rebelling man today, albeit fainter than what it would have been before. (Beggars can't be choosers, I tell myself😆) Really, that is what we have become.😭

This scene also did leave me a bit confused in certain places - Jodha's dignified rebuttal, Jalal's unexpected trust in her, his composed replies against Ruqaiyya, his angry stance against Bharmal - I have a feeling that the CVs are trying to squash in too many dimensions into Jalal and Jodha at once (while keeping callers suggestions in mind). Seeing their character-graph for the past month or so this recuperated behaviour of the leads - especially Jalal must have left most feeling 🥳
So then, we have this man - who is capable of weighing the situation carefully when the need arises. Then, why isn't he thinking straight in the Benazir fiasco - or are the CVs trying to convey that the Shehenshah places his personality/brains in hibernation once in a while - especially when it comes to the humiliation of THAT night!

If they have shown Jalal to think clearly here (does he use his smarts only to prove Jodha 'not guilty😲), they ought to show him clever even in AbuMali-Ben issue.

She is NOT lying' he said to Ruqaiyya. Jalal's stance shook me - as I am sure must have the rest of the audience😆
Actually, his not-at-all-angry expression in 'aage dekhiye' prepared me for the outcome.

However, I am still surprised (and not-too-pleasantly) that he suspects Bharmal of having known of the affair. Having said that, the points he brings up against the father do make sense too. I do hope he is not too harsh with the father and lets him have his say like he did Jodha today.
It didn't make sense to me at all. Does it to you?


PRECAP
My guesses are that Jalal is angrily referring to Shivani and Tej - and that Jodha is pleading for their cause!
I'll kick her if she does plead. I expect her to stand by his decisions atleast this time.
I thought Jalal was referring to Bharmal & Co. thinking they escaped, but they would have gone to hunt down the fly-birds and prove Amer loyalty...Hey we should stop guessing. Our track records are dismal.Ouch
Today's episode left a mixed taste in me. I was expected more anger from Jalal, not against Jodha actually, but against the happenings, considering the seriousness of the scandal. I was also pleasantly surprised at his unflinching trust in her as always, though I feel sick that it is never reciprocated.

Edited by Sandhya.A - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

UNRes..


Awesome analysis..

Maham again proved to be the Dak Munshi of Agra...Another letter waiting for her.😆..
Hopefully and Happily, this one did not create a new MU...
It was a bolt from blue, hearing Jalal, that he believed Jodha..!.😲. kaise.😆?.
Good to hear, that she was shown, worrying for Sultanate's 'izzat', with special mention this time.

I am happy (for time being), that MA's continuously running wagon of endless successful conspiracies finally stopped.!.
Relieved to see, both Jo-Ja, behaving sensibly.(for a change.)

Jalal's actions demonstrated a shade of his old nature.
Hope, the old leads will be back soon.
Very very true abhay... I agree with all that you've stated above!
All in all. It was a departure from the torturous episodes, we were digesting with excruciating frustration..Worth watching today..
Yup..TOTALLY AGREE!
P.S. -> It's Shakuni Mama.😃 Don't confuse him with Shaguni Bai..😆

So sorry..lemme go and change it ASAP 🤣 ye JA ki asar se na... main bhi pagal hoti jaa rahi hoon😆

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