Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 52

Originally posted by: history_geek

Minor Update --- Fatehpur Sikri issue



Though, still searching.

But, construction in FS ACTUALLY COMMENCED much before 1569 ..!.. (don't ask year)

More we are searching, please hold on..😊..


P.S -> For those who sent PMs.
Construction started before those battles in erstwhile Rajputana or Gujarat.

Did NOT find any connection with Rajputana battles, that Akbar erected this city for celebrating those victories.🤢.

Thanks Abhay ... would look fwd to knw more ...

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

i think for the victory in battles over Rajputana, it was that Buland darwaza at the FS fort, that he built... but why and when that fort was built, i didn't get any clear info abt it...

Yes,I too heard abt that Darwaaza was built related to victory ...

Originally posted by: history_geek

Minor Update --- Fatehpur Sikri issue



Though, still searching.

But, construction in FS ACTUALLY COMMENCED much before 1569 ..!.. (don't ask year)

More we are searching, please hold on..😊..


P.S -> For those who sent PMs.
Construction started before those battles in erstwhile Rajputana or Gujarat.

Did NOT find any connection with Rajputana battles, that Akbar erected this city for celebrating those victories.🤢.

@ ALL...UPDATE --- 2 --- SIKRI ISSUE


Right now. Certain things can't be answered so objectively in yes or no.

I updated this, since we all (I, KDR81, Lizzy) got certain info of this type, and due to pressure of PMs.
And, you see, we specifically mentioned in update,-->> "More we are searching, please hold on...".

DON'T confuse with update..😊
Here, we mentioned construction commenced much BEFORE 1569, and also before erstwhile Rajputana or Gujarat war... This is sure ..!..But, got prominence later .!.

We ONLY MEAN the construction started early .!.

Rang Mahal, no doubt, was constructed at fast pace. And, was used by HK during Salim's pregnancy..When it started EXACT TIME, we will update when we get it..

Regarding, Tejwant-Shivani, if you read, we have mentioned, there is no evidence of that issue with any of us till now.

We all are "still reading" , and update as and when we get new info.😊




The following INFO has to be verified for 100% assurity. Though, WE do not want to disclose. Still sharing as you have raised certain questions.😕

One of us have come across a VERY INTERESTING info --> There was a farman given by HK herself, for construction of her palace in Sikri, as per her wish. (in serial also, we saw Jalal saying that she will get a palace of her choice.)

Still searching the exact issue.!.
Don't know if we'll get that farman. Just trying. If get, then fine .!.


Previously also, we listed a farman.
Link:---->>
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100926228
See here...


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Originally posted by: history_geek

Note : A Farman issued by Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba

Credit -> Lizzy2012

"
Some ladies had the exclusive privilege of issuing official orders.
The right of issuing royal farmans was the exclusive prerogative of the emperor.
There were other official documents like Hasb-Ul-Hukm, Nishans, Sanads and Parwanas which were issued by the high officials and Princes.

But in some cases farmans were issued by queens and princesses.

This issuing of such orders was confined to the highest ladies of the harem such as
Hamida Banu Begum,
Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum,
Nur Jahan,
Mumtaz Mahal,
Nadira Banu Begum, and
Jahanarra Begum

"


Following is a farman issued by Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba.
"
In another order issued by Mariam-Uz-Zamani Begum Sahiba, Madabbir Beg is asked to restore the jagir which was usurped by one Surajmal in pargana Chaupala (Moradabad).
"

Reference:
Indian Historical Records Commission,viii,1925, pp.167-69

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BTW, The disclaimer yesterday talked ONLY of issue of renaming the town.
No where it said that this issue of palace in Sikri is fake.

It is said that after Gujarat victory in 1572-73, the word Fatehpur was OFFICIALLY, prefixed with Sikri😊.


It's not so EASY to get info at a single place, at the drop of hat. 😊
It's not so easy FOR US, to reject any/everything.😊..!..


Direct Link of this post: in case you want to share with anyone:😊
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/101085775


Also, on next Page - 68.
Details of pilgrimage undertaken by Akbar and MUZ to Sheikh Chisti Dargah are listed.
Do see.😊
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91?pn=68

Thanks for the info. 👏

wow ... thnx abhay! Looking fwd for more ...
hope u get to see the farmaan soon ...

thank u so much for d info...it really helps!!

thanks for the detailed information. 🤗 really came in handy. 👍🏼

thanx u so much for the info abhay...its interesting

more than fatehpur sikri...jodha's palace...I am more interested in Rang Mahal n u know why... 😉 😆

Thanx for giving information,abhay..
I m not getting then why zee is using disclaimer..even ela phoned to zee but there operator over turn said opposite of disclaimer..if zee used disclaimer on FS issue then they should use disclaimer at the time of ben n jalal's marriage..
I didn't read disclaimer as i don't know to read hindi..but today i watched yesterday's episode in zee asia pacific channel there all disclaimers show in English but i didn't see any disclaimer on FS at the time of episode telecast.

Hi All,
I have ready shared my view and knowledge about the FS issue with Abhay...still am recounting certain points again...
1. FS urbanization was started much earlier than 1569 and Akbar only expedited the process when MUZ conceived Salim.😊
2.Akbar did take HK with him to visit Sheikh Chisti even before Salim concept was in view.😊
3.HK was his travel companion most of the times than any other Begums.

Rest points will be given by Abhay through Posts at right time...

😃

Regards,
Kamal

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi All,
I have ready shared my view and knowledge about the FS issue with Abhay...still am recounting certain points again...
1. FS urbanization was started much earlier than 1569 and Akbar only expedited the process when MUZ conceived Salim.😊
2.Akbar did take HK with him to visit Sheikh Chisti even before Salim concept was in view.😊
3.HK was his travel companion most of the times than any other Begums.

Rest points will be given by Abhay through Posts at right time...

😃

Regards,
Kamal

I have also shared with Abhay some facts I know about FS,

Want add few more specifics to the Information given by Kamal ,that I stumbled upon recently.😊.

this is about the pilgrimages undertaken by akbar..it is specially given in akbarnama that MUZ went along with akbar on a pilgrimage to khwaja muin-ud-din chisti in 1566 (vol 2,pp 366)..the same is repeated in the book "studies of islam culuture in indian environment " by aziz ahmed..the year is debated on in various books but the pilgrimage was undertaken is a sure fact..

Sangeetha