Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 53

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi All,
I have ready shared my view and knowledge about the FS issue with Abhay...still am recounting certain points again...
1. FS urbanization was started much earlier than 1569 and Akbar only expedited the process when MUZ conceived Salim.😊
2.Akbar did take HK with him to visit Sheikh Chisti even before Salim concept was in view.😊
3.HK was his travel companion most of the times than any other Begums.

Rest points will be given by Abhay through Posts at right time...

😃

Regards,
Kamal


these points r so cool..
Thanx kamal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
thanks Abhay...waiting for more...😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Thanks Abhay, and to build city it takes years and he said he wants to build as per Jodha's choice, so they initiated in 1562/63 and must have taken sometime by the time the actual work started.

If Jodha was in palace in Sikhri when she was pregnant (during 1568-69), then the palace construction should have started much before, else it is not possible that once they got to know that she was pregnant and immdtly the palace was built so that she could stay?

I agree Maddy...he might have gifted the city to Jodha..but rebuilding needs time, and in those days quite a few years..as Abhay said the construction commenced much before 1569..and when Jodha was pregnant, she already had Rang Mahal...all these r so dreamy
may be CVs only used the "fatehpur" word to spice up the romance..rests r true.
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012


I have also shared with Abhay some facts I know about FS,

Want add few more specifics to the Information given by Kamal ,that I stumbled upon recently.😊.

this is about the pilgrimages undertaken by akbar..it is specially given in akbarnama that MUZ went along with akbar on a pilgrimage to khwaja muin-ud-din chisti in 1566 (vol 2,pp 366)..the same is repeated in the book "studies of islam culuture in indian environment " by aziz ahmed..the year is debated on in various books but the pilgrimage was undertaken is a sure fact..

Sangeetha






Hi Sangeetha,

Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti is the same Sage as Ajmer Sharif Khwaja, He is Khwaja Garib Nawaz....😊 Akbar went there many times with HK, w/o Hk both...😊😊I think many people are not clear on this issue...thnx for taking up the topic😃

Salim Chisti - FS
Moinuddin Chisti- Ajmer Sharif...


Hope it's clearer to all now...😳

Regards,
Kamal
Edited by KDR81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi All,
I have ready shared my view and knowledge about the FS issue with Abhay...still am recounting certain points again...
1. FS urbanization was started much earlier than 1569 and Akbar only expedited the process when MUZ conceived Salim.😊
2.Akbar did take HK with him to visit Sheikh Chisti even before Salim concept was in view.😊
3.HK was his travel companion most of the times than any other Begums.

Rest points will be given by Abhay through Posts at right time...

😃

Regards,
Kamal

thank u Di !! i'm happy CVs r showing every li'l thing of them.😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Sangeetha,

Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti is the same Sage as Ajmer Sharif Khwaja, He is Khwaja Garib Nawaz....😊 Akbar went to him many times with HK, w/o Hk both...😊😊I think many people are not clear on this issue...thnx for taking up the topic😃

Salim Chisti - FS
Moinuddin Chisti- Ajmer Sharif...


Hope it's clearer to all now...😳

Regards,
Kamal
***Thanks Kamal, atleast EK has not messed up much with History. And when watching other shows as well based on History, we see so much of women politics and was it really recorded in history or sometimes it is fictionalised as well
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Hi Sangeetha,

Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti is the same Sage as Ajmer Sharif Khwaja, He is Khwaja Garib Nawaz....😊 Akbar went to him many times with HK, w/o Hk both...😊😊I think many people are not clear on this issue...thnx for taking up the topic😃

Salim Chisti - FS
Moinuddin Chisti- Ajmer Sharif...


Hope it's clearer to all now...😳

Regards,
Kamal
***Thanks Kamal, atleast EK has not messed up much with History. And when watching other shows as well based on History, we see so much of women politics and was it really recorded in history or sometimes it is fictionalised as well



Hi Ash,
Well, politics was there NO DOUBT...male-female both...however, the dramatization as shown in the serial may be a bit of Masaladaar to suit viewers' taste...😊

Some of them were documented ,like those which went to great extent of becoming apparent ...others remained veiled inside the Palace harem...only their effects were seen...😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Kamal,
Didn't realise there would confusion of this sort(of the saint)-😊..thanks for clearing it for the readers 😃..
Sangeetha
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Posted: 11 years ago
Abhay, Kamal & Sangeetha👍🏼

You are doing such terrific work, I can understand how time consuming and sometimes frustrating the entire dig up old documents procedure must be
Sometimes contrasting documents colored with the writer's own views must be adding to the confusion!

To go thru them and arrive at the conclusion, really great work you all

TFS



Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Abhay, Kamal & Sangeetha👍🏼

You are doing such terrific work, I can understand how time consuming and sometimes frustrating the entire dig up old documents procedure must be
Sometimes contrasting documents colored with the writer's own views must be adding to the confusion!

To go thru them and arrive at the conclusion, really great work you two

TFS




Really hatssoff for their patience and hardwork. Learning lots of truth just because of their research 👏👏

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