Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91 - Page 41

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Ah, ok..

1.

Abhay, besides Ruqaiyya & Saleema & of course J, was there any other queen who was dear to Akbar? Did he cherish & value any other?

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I've read that the ladies were all way too progressive for their Times. And that they never did participate in wars but were actively consulted during wars?

3.

Yes Mughal queens were all paid according to their status. But it wasn't due to only their beauty & talent 😊. Generally, it was only the position they occupied or their home state that matterered.

4.

The princess of Mewar { "would ideally have"😕?? } got far more wealth than the princess of Amer because Amer was a tiny state! And Mewar was huge & the politically, the most powerful state in Rajputanaa.

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But since Amer was completely valued by Akbar & Jodha was the MUZ her status was th highest probably & hence, so was her income. Jodha anyway was the richest lady at court that time, they say. Her shipping business flourished!!!

1.
Not heard or read till date. Even, in foreign accounts it's MUZ. BTW, no mention of Ruqayya anywhere as a influential one.😕 It was Salima along with Jo.

2.
Yes, they did not went for wars(not read/heard). BTW, MUZ had a separate cavalry of 12,000, under her. The only lady in entire Mughal period, so command such a position. And, other 3 were the emperor, his son, and the chief commander.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98555146

3.
Hmm. Agreeable to an extent.😊

4.
Why Mewar came here..?😕. Amer was not so tiny, though smaller than Mewar. But, they were quite rich...

Please see my old comment. Sometime back, similar query came...
P.S. --> I am quoting just for info. Just see the points. (this was a question on Amer)


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Please read the IMPERIAL GAZETTER OF INDIA,😊 and if possible read the Princely states of india's accounts(Rajputana),😊 where it's clearly written that the 'erstwhile princely state of Amer had MAXIMUM REVENUE IN ENTIRE RAJPUTANA, despite the fact that Amer was not the largest rajputana state. The largest states were Marwar and Mewar, then.👍🏼
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I am not refuting Mewar's status, but only some info on Amer.😊 They also had good REVENUE coz they had good business in handicrafts, jewels, etc. and were the buffer territory for trade.

@MEB, ----->>>😊I have a query, why you mentioned Mewar.😕.i am asking BECAUSE.. i got MANY questions in PMs where members asked me that Mewar's queen would not have consented to get married any of her sons to princess of Amer...Do you also have a similar connection..?..😕...??..BTW, Mewar was at war with Akbar continuosly..😕!


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Yes, she was the richest. Findly has estimated her treasury to be more than King of England.!!. Her status, Not only due to MUZ. But, before that also, before Salim's birth also, she had a stand in the Mughal household, she had title of Wali-Ni'maat (Blessing of Saint / Allah), and had palace, while other wives were in Harem. 😊

Originally posted by: Pals2411

This is interesting. Does that mean that despite having 30+ legally wedded wives, all of them did not stay with him till his lifetime?

Originally posted by: adianasr

Tripti other than the Amer princess, the other 2 Rajput princesses Akbar married were from Jodhpur and Bikaner or Jaisalmer (dont knw which) if I am not mistaken. The Hadas in their treaty with Akbar refused to have a marital alliance and Mewar was always at war with the Mughals till Shahjahan got the treaty from them.

Adi,
Jahangir had a treaty with Rana Amar Singh, son of Maharana Pratap.!.😕.

Originally posted by: history_geek

Adi,
Jahangir had a treaty with Rana Amar Singh, son of Maharana Pratap.!.😕.

Originally posted by: Pals2411

This is interesting. Does that mean that despite having 30+ legally wedded wives, all of them did not stay with him till his lifetime?

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

There was a Mirza Koka who was the childhood & beloved friend of Jehangir... Is he the same one?

@Abhhay: Yes I've read quite many books on Rajputana history in their museums. A number of my relatives are well, kings & queens. Which is where I got my information from.

Originally posted by: jshweta16

There are sooo many Kokas 😆. the Koka m talking about was most probably Khusrow's father-in-law and the one you are talking about is Jahangir's foster brother-cum-advisor...Only Abhay can help us out 😉

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

@Abhhay: Yes I've read quite many Rajputana history in their museums. A number of my relatives are well, kings & queens. Which is where I got my information from.

I mentioned Mewar because it was definitely the richest & politically the most powerful. Yes, Amer was very, very rich. All of them were! 😆 but I wasn't talking about their wealth, rather thier political significance.

Yes Mewar was ALWAYS at logger-heads with Mughal India but I gave that as an example because of what I've read & told.

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Yes they were. Hmm yes, I think these 2 were differerent!

@ All.
Here, it's one 'koka', though there were many.
This is Mirza Aziz Koka, son of Atgah Khan, and nephew of Qutub-ud-din Koka.
He was strong supporter of Khusrau, and was father-in-law of Khusrau.

And, he ONLY taught Salim initially. He was well versed in many languages, a man with multiple talents. Man Singh and Mirza Aziz Koka, both fought many times for Akbar.
And, he was Khan-e-Azam, the title Akbar conferred on him, not Khan-e-Khanan.😊
It was Rahim.

And, yes, it was Mirza Koka's sister/ Ataga's daughter who was married to Rahim, named Mah/Mai Banu Begum. Yes, Salima Begum had a 'great' role in getting Mirza Koka out of prison.