Mughals - JA(REAL) is not Fiction-Pt4 - Author/TM's note on Pg1 and 91

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Abhay

@history_geek

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Posted: 11 years ago

#381

Originally posted by: adianasr
Abhay when are you going to tell us about MH's mother's actions related to the current track???? Am waiting impatiently!!!!!!

Adi,

Please WAIT.😊 I am racing VERY hard against time, to answer everything here. Believe me, i am also impatient to post whatever that info is, here as soon as possible. 😊 Actually, want to be sure before posting. That book is at first hand, badly tattered and second thing it is in Persian language. So, i am at mercy of another person for help. So, this delay. 😕

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#382

Originally posted by: history_geek
Originally posted by adianasr

Abhay you have said that all the conspirators were those who were closer to Akbar. Dont forget the saying 'Keep your friends close but keep your enemies close'. Akbar knw who were his loyals and who wanted his throne and this ability to understand human psyche was what made him keep those enemical to him closer!!!! To me it seems a deliberate ploy by the very highly intelligent Emperor to keep those enemical to him closer so that he could monitor them!!!

Hi Adi,

Just missed replying to you. Thanx for these beautiful lines. Before i start, must say, your lines took me straight to 16th century Italy, and was instantaneously reminded of Machiavellianism, and the cunning policies of running the state during Renaissance.😊

BTW, regarding our Shahenshah, this time he was "sach mein" deceived, as i read in the account.😕 Not questioning his intelligence, but yes at times, humans are mistaken. And, do get 'dhokha' in differentiating, friends and enemies.

Afterall, he is our Emperor in making, who has to win Hindustan, yet. And, in this incident, following words justify him - Trust is a skill "learned over time" so that,-> like a trained athlete, one makes right moves, "usually" without much reflection. And, this incident MAY BE a major "dhakka" for him. As, we say, shattered legs may heal in time, but "some" betrayals fester and poison the soul.

P.S. --> I have not updated complete info of this event, still preparing the post. It'll be more clear, then, what i mean here. 😊 Just want to be sure before posting.

Waiting for the update soon Abhay!!! And yes you are rt. Trust is a skill learnt over time and this period of learning may have been the foundation for the trust btwn Akbar and Maansingh, Rahim, Todarmal and Birbal - of whom Maansingh and Rahim both were looked upon by Akbar as his sons!!!

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ayushimehra

@ayushimehra

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Posted: 11 years ago

#383

Abhay, please tell us in which year Jalal was Titled up with Akbar.

Hassan or i think Hussein were children of jodha who died in infancy

when Salim was 12 years old he was suffering from chicken-pox. is it true because that time it was very dangerous.

in which year Salim sent for learning Discipline in ragasthan.

people saying not good relation was jodha and Salim but if this is true how can jodha arrange salim$

marriage with Bhagvan das daughter

as my knowledge of history they were in good relation,jodha not accepts his wrong desires.

i also read in history Akbar KhabGreh in fath-pur sikri Only Jodha can go Once a washer man or may

be worker went to Akbar's Khabgreh he was punished by Akbar is it true.

i want to add something more i visted with my familt some years before Amer fort ,Agra fort,Fathpur sikri.

Historical Guide show us ONE Surrang which goes to Amer to Fathpur Sikary or maybee AgraFort

in these days closed for visitores only they show long distance to visitores.

Agra Fort, Fathpur Sikari historcial guide show us different type of pillers . They told us in those days

there are no Mobile phones.No STD phones but these pillers can do work in these days which work

done by Phone.Every piller has given different name . Every piller walles is manufactourised

different ways , Every piller creates Different Sounds. there sounds goes to Kings Chamber.queen

chamber.Security Chamber. Kings Chamber has all those type of pillers which tells him what is

happening in fort and where.if anyone is far away and want to tell anything these pillers can help

My ques is this is anything mention in these historical books .

Please tell us. i am feeling pressure to asking you.

😳 😉

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#384

Originally posted by: jshweta16

u mean Maham ?? 😲Abhay aise suspense mat create karo buddy😆.

Yes Shweta, Maham's end has been indicated.

And, a very minor 'hint' was given in show itself last week,😉 provided one has virtually depleted most of the archives in depth, then only can understand, the connection of events. 😊 . Will update that 'hint' and the flow of events. As i mentioned on Mansi's thread also- the show is slowly progressing to core events. Till then, i hope this info will boost the sunken morale of the forum waasis. 😆 . Ben's track conclusion is near, lets wait how near?, and next 'major' event is Mayhem's departure. In between Shivani track should also be sorted out. Only thing to be seen is how long can Ekta make Maham stay on the show.

I answered this here, since wanted all historical discussions to stay at one place. BTW, hats off to Ekta's researchers for picking up the most tiny bits from history, which were not found in Mughal chronicles. I also found this track's info, after grilling a lot.

Will update these events in detail within some time. They are too confusing and highly interlinked.

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maaneet_forever

@maaneet_forever

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Posted: 11 years ago

#385

Thank s for sharing the info

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deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#386

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Thanks for the reply Abhay, I know how much swamped you must be with all the Qs😊

Lines in blue, Why put restrictions on them? Was it due to vegetarianism by them? (Can't be that, sounds doubtful to me too but I ask this because in one episode they showed Jodha cooks for Jalal by way of thanks & when he asks her to eat with him says my food is different so Jalal then says he will eat her food)

So THEY could not eat, drink with him (means at DEK functions etc.) but Akbar did eat with them in Amer?

BTW - hope you can move your thread to 1st page

I check from time to time, found so many posts today which I had not read, all so fascinating

Maddy, it was their practice (Rajvamshis) not to eat at their daughter's sasural. So when Jalal asked them about eting food prepared by Jodha with them, Raja Bharamal declined it politely by mentioning this. However Jalal could eat with them in Amer as he was the son in law to them. Rajvamshis trea son in law as God (even in 21st century, the SIL gets treated royally immaterial of the status (wife's maternal house).

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preeti.r

@preeti.r

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Posted: 11 years ago

#387

Originally posted by: history_geek

Yes Shweta, Maham's end has been indicated.

And, a very minor 'hint' was given in show itself last week,😉 provided one has virtually depleted most of the archives in depth, then only can understand, the connection of events. 😊 . Will update that 'hint' and the flow of events. As i mentioned on Mansi's thread also- the show is slowly progressing to core events. Till then, i hope this info will boost the sunken morale of the forum waasis. 😆 . Ben's track conclusion is near, lets wait how near?, and next 'major' event is Mayhem's departure. In between Shivani track should also be sorted out. Only thing to be seen is how long can Ekta make Maham stay on the show.

I answered this here, since wanted all historical discussions to stay at one place. BTW, hats off to Ekta's researchers for picking up the most tiny bits from history, which were not found in Mughal chronicles. I also found this track's info, after grilling a lot.

Will update these events in detail within some time. They are too confusing and highly interlinked.

Abhay

was Adham being sent to war against Baz Bahadur the hint that you are referring to ?

Seriously want Maham out but am worried coz known devils are better than unknown angels ...Don't want HM and His mom ending up worst than MA and Adham

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#388

Originally posted by: history_geek

Yes Shweta, Maham's end has been indicated.

And, a very minor 'hint' was given in show itself last week,😉 provided one has virtually depleted most of the archives in depth, then only can understand, the connection of events. 😊 . Will update that 'hint' and the flow of events. As i mentioned on Mansi's thread also- the show is slowly progressing to core events. Till then, i hope this info will boost the sunken morale of the forum waasis. 😆 . Ben's track conclusion is near, lets wait how near?, and next 'major' event is Mayhem's departure. In between Shivani track should also be sorted out. Only thing to be seen is how long can Ekta make Maham stay on the show.

I answered this here, since wanted all historical discussions to stay at one place. BTW, hats off to Ekta's researchers for picking up the most tiny bits from history, which were not found in Mughal chronicles. I also found this track's info, after grilling a lot.

Will update these events in detail within some time. They are too confusing and highly interlinked.

Abhay was the hint the conversation between Adham & Mayhem? Where she mentions Jalal must have some plans for Adham

Line in bold
They proclaim "uchit our natkiya rupantar" always, I am hoping to see Jalal's eyes opened about Mayhem's truth. It will not be any fun to watch if Jalal LEARNS OF MAYHEM'S KANDS after her demise. He will be left feeling ever more betrayed & foolish.

As for how long Mayhem stays in show, remember they have not even shown Adham end yet. Sometimes they take 2-3 episodes to depict 1 day in the serial.

You wrote Mayhem died 40 days after Adham. Undoubtedly she will be extremely furious after Adham's death and manner of it. So we might get to see slow disintegration of Mayhem, and in serial 40 days can last for 100+ episodes!

So Mayhem is here for long time still BUT we might get to see cards reversed now, she will be at the receiving end as her truth starts to come out
I hope to see that after all the torture she put everybody through!

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#389

Originally posted by: deejagi
Maddy, it was their practice (Rajvamshis) not to eat at their daughter's sasural. So when Jalal asked them about eting food prepared by Jodha with them, Raja Bharamal declined it politely by mentioning this. However Jalal could eat with them in Amer as he was the son in law to them. Rajvamshis trea son in law as God (even in 21st century, the SIL gets treated royally immaterial of the status (wife's maternal house).

Thanks Abhay, yes such simple and logical explanation
We get to thinking of audha, plots and all here - start to think that even about such matters