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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
Mansi, missed monday & tuesday episode, due to out of town, watched wednesday episode with monday& tuesday. Monday&Tuesday episodes are full waste. Yesterday episode was better.

I don't think there will be any flashback. I think Jalaal followed jodha advice and convinced Ruqu to appear before public. I think Ruqu hatred and anger on Jodha wouldn't be fake nor the emotional letter to humayun. I think Jalaal after seeing Ruqu speech and public reaction has made reaedy the farman immediately and calle for diwani-ek-khas.

Liked Jalaal tooking away Adham poisition and everything from him. He still he didn't have remorse, only Maham begged for his life. I think Jalaal even though emotionally attached, but somewhere he started taking decision on his own without consulting Maham. At diwani-E-Khas Jalaal saw Maham's love for Adam and whatever punishment Adham deserves it.

I think Maham has the idea that JJR are together, but i think it would be last minute. Now her direct attack will be JJR, and soon know Ruqu being the weak contender and also doesn't want to loose Jalaal will feel in trap of Maham unknowingly.

Good to see Jodha-Ruqu friendship, I think friendship yet to start, they will soon get along well, soon something happens and Ruqu will hold Jodha for taking away Jalaal from her. I think love-letter track will start on friday and will continue next week.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: komalcutie

All's well that's end well 😉
Starting with Jalal I loved the way he executed whole sequences in the episode. Especially in D-E-K when he was passing his judgment. His angry looks are to die for. I loved the fact that he didn't melt on his Badi Ammi's plead. He was confident and already made up his mind about Adham and didn't change it for anyone.

Well there was not much of Jodha but that opening scene of her where she is all worried up about Jalal and Jalal only was heart touching. These small steps will only lead to an epic love story between Ja-Jo. The way she was all stressed out, worried up, the way she insisted Ruq to stop Jalal and then when she tried to stop him by herself. All of these indicated how much Jo cares for him now. And I was pleased to see it. 😳

One more scene worth talking about was that Ruq-Ja scene in D-E-K. I was so impressed by Ruq when she said to Ja that she trust his decision and with what a style she just went and sat with him...wow...I just thought atta girl you just slapped Maham and Adham by this action of yours. How proudly she sat next to him, giving that I know where I belong look to Maham and Adham. I liked it especially because Maham and Adham tried to humiliate her as a woman and as a wife, so this was much needed.

And about Maham...sigh...What should I say about her? She is so smart and shrewd that even she is all villainous you just are forced to compliment her brain. Im not saying it on the basis of yesterday's epi. It is true in general👍🏼. By only that farman she made up her own theory, even though her theory doesn't hold much ground as Jalal-Ruq-Jodha weren't planning anything from the beginning, this was all planned at the very last moment but I think she was suggesting to that to how Jodha talked Jalal into taking this action and how Ja told Ruq to manipulate the public and all. Anyways, God how angry she looked. This is not going down well with Maham and she is definitely going to cause confusion and rift between the three musketeers...

Precap was the best part for me😆...How adorable Jo-Ru looked smiling at each other. I've always wanted to see their friendship may be because of the whole off-screen friendship between Lavi-Pari...I hope we get at least one whole week to enjoy the JoRu friendship and Ja-Jo's romance😳. I don't want cvs to rush to another political or social track at all. I'm with utmost eagerness waiting for that letter wala track to proceed. I hope it will be executed well enough.

Btw, one the lighter note Jalal's love can be very painfu😆l...I mean the way he was dragging Maham with him to the public was hilarious. I know Maham was severely injured but the way Jalal said that his badi ammi can take anything and dragged her to accompany him😆. Maham ab toh apne khoon ke debt mein bhi usko duba legi...Bechara Jalal apne doodh ke karz ke pyaar ke chakar mein khoon ka karz bhi apne sar chadha liya.😛

Last but not the least...i appreciates how much hardwork you put in your write ups. And it is very well analysed. Keep up the good work.👏

Okay so you are one of those who think Maham made up this theory of the three - Jodha, Jalal and Ruq - working together? Maybe, maybe ... but if there wasn't a chance of that I don't think the Creatives would have bothered putting that in the script! There could be some truth in Maham's statement if not the whole truth!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi, missed monday & tuesday episode, due to out of town, watched wednesday episode with monday& tuesday. Monday&Tuesday episodes are full waste. Yesterday episode was better.

I don't think there will be any flashback. I think Jalaal followed jodha advice and convinced Ruqu to appear before public. I think Ruqu hatred and anger on Jodha wouldn't be fake nor the emotional letter to humayun. I think Jalaal after seeing Ruqu speech and public reaction has made reaedy the farman immediately and calle for diwani-ek-khas.

Liked Jalaal tooking away Adham poisition and everything from him. He still he didn't have remorse, only Maham begged for his life. I think Jalaal even though emotionally attached, but somewhere he started taking decision on his own without consulting Maham. At diwani-E-Khas Jalaal saw Maham's love for Adam and whatever punishment Adham deserves it.

I think Maham has the idea that JJR are together, but i think it would be last minute. Now her direct attack will be JJR, and soon know Ruqu being the weak contender and also doesn't want to loose Jalaal will feel in trap of Maham unknowingly.

Good to see Jodha-Ruqu friendship, I think friendship yet to start, they will soon get along well, soon something happens and Ruqu will hold Jodha for taking away Jalaal from her. I think love-letter track will start on friday and will continue next week.

Abhi, I feel sure we will have a flashback scene, so let's wait and see whose predictions come true!😳😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: skanda12

Okay so you are one of those who think Maham made up this theory of the three - Jodha, Jalal and Ruq - working together? Maybe, maybe ... but if there wasn't a chance of that I don't think the Creatives would have bothered putting that in the script! There could be some truth in Maham's statement if not the whole truth!

If we look at it the three of them did work together but they grouped together only in the very end. I think what cvs wanted to bring out through maham was that how Jo-Ja-Ru were a team in this one in the end. I really dont think the sequences which happened on Monday and tuesday were planned because they couldn't have faked those emotions they all felt for eachother. As more or less all those happened privately.
Edited by komalcutie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55
sry...bt i do not know...
how 2 xplain ur post..?

its just perfect...!!
i wish u dnt gt bored wid this same comment of mine.😊.

is adham nearing his end.??i cn smell it..😕..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

sry...bt i do not know...
how 2 xplain ur post..?

its just perfect...!!
i wish u dnt gt bored wid this same comment of mine.😊.

is adham nearing his end.??i cn smell it..😕..

Thanks so much!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: baubles

Great analysis di...👍🏼I managed to watch only the second half of the episode and it was quite good.

One thing noticed..all the while Maham was pleading Jalal didn't look sympathetic or sad for her, instead all one could see on his face was hatred and anger for Adham the whole time and that's an improvement! Maybe he won't trust Maham blindly anymore..though his love for her will remain as in the first scene!
I heard Jo was really concerned for Jalal today n prayed for him...I love that!😳
As for the final Maham scene..firstly Maham is one clever,shrewd woman and I truly admire her for that..wish it was put to use for the right things!
Secondly, looks like I have to take my words back and Jalal did have a plan..the whole thing is still not clear, hope to get some FBs tomorrow!
And the precap..well, I found it funny..don't ask me why😆


Yep...the veil of affection is slowly but surely falling off...and the track of vengeance that is surely to follow...will now obscure Big Momma's eyes to the fact that her milk fed son is now wise enough to see through her machinations...and also that he has his personal swarm of three close Bee...Weees...to guide him...
It's sad tho...to look into the future and see the tremendous pain that is to come Seor Imperio's way...when he truly sees his Big Momma's true colours...
You never wish that kind of pain on anyone...even from this distance in history...poor man..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

Another super analysis Mansi 👏

Here is my take of the 11th hour strategic decision...Jalal was in a bind after his announcement of divorce, without having a concrete plan in place and effectively getting trapped by AK in the court. Jodha's visit to the armory propelled him into action and his coaching of Ruqaiyya to address the crowd. I feel Ruqaiyya was not in this last minute scrambling ...I will also go further and predict that once maham is aware that its all due to late night meeting between Jalal and Jodha that has resulted in this debacle for her and her son, she will be back with a vengeance against Jodha and Jalal. Maham will take advantage of the love-letter misunderstanding and get Ruqaiyya swinging again the way she wants... I could be wrong 😊


No...you are not wrong...I felt that way too...but all of Maham's actions now will only serve to widen the chasm between her and Imperio...yesterday, what was interesting was how her plans backfired in the Imperial court...she had carefully planned all of her and her half wit son's statements...but then gets a googly when Rex decides to hand him over to the baying crowds outside...and that he holds the crime of insulting an Imperial Queen higher than all others...and finally decides to hand judgement over to Narcissa...who in a classic serve and volley...tosses the ball back to him...
There is no sympathy for his Colostral brother ...none...he has exhausted all of it...
And Big a Momma goofed big time by going back on her Prime Ministerial statements...of being a servant of the court and dispensing fair justice...above all else...the mother did come first...and she chose her own over her MilkFed son...
Telling action...that one..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
Nice post mansi

Am i happy that this track has finished but i doubt we would get to see any flashbacks , because Maham's theory to sum up the events was just to update us how the trio came together , but wha was not highlighted was when ? . I guess , it al started with jodha's determined visit to armory that night , she suggested a plan which served both the purpose as per jalal , one get rid of adham and second gets the law in place but iam not sure he discussed this with jodha . To me it looked like he took the idea and worked on it with Atga khan and then asked ruqu only to implement the stage one, he did not open the cards to her for sure which is quite evident by her behaviour .

And jodha was also not kept in loop further because otherwise we would not be shown her running from pillar to post and worrying about jalal thinking that he might spill his wrath on the avaam , which was the key player in this whole set up . Jodha knew tht jalal's love for maham did out weigh his love for anyone else and so was worried for jalal and the outcome of events had anything gone wrong.

The scene tht happned in DEK was a pre-planned one but only by jalal, at the most i think he might have asked ruqaiya to levae the decision onto him but it was jalal's determination to uproot adham from start that took its effect and he purposely said that he would hand him over to avaam because he knew his badi -ammi would barge in and save her son's life ,which he was ready to give away too because for the price of AK's life, jalal was planning to reduce him to bits.

Maham is just shown connecting all the peices because jalal did outsmart her .


That is my take , i hope they show the flashbacks but iam not fully confident that they will, let's see.

Kashi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ginco

Nice post mansi

Am i happy that this track has finished but i doubt we would get to see any flashbacks , because Maham's theory to sum up the events was just to update us how the trio came together , but wha was not highlighted was when ? . I guess , it al started with jodha's determined visit to armory that night , she suggested a plan which served both the purpose as per jalal , one get rid of adham and second gets the law in place but iam not sure he discussed this with jodha . To me it looked like he took the idea and worked on it with Atga khan and then asked ruqu only to implement the stage one, he did not open the cards to her for sure which is quite evident by her behaviour .

And jodha was also not kept in loop further because otherwise we would not be shown her running from pillar to post and worrying about jalal thinking that he might spill his wrath on the avaam , which was the key player in this whole set up . Jodha knew tht jalal's love for maham did out weigh his love for anyone else and so was worried for jalal and the outcome of events had anything gone wrong.

The scene tht happned in DEK was a pre-planned one but only by jalal, at the most i think he might have asked ruqaiya to levae the decision onto him but it was jalal's determination to uproot adham from start that took its effect and he purposely said that he would hand him over to avaam because he knew his badi -ammi would barge in and save her son's life ,which he was ready to give away too because for the price of AK's life, jalal was planning to reduce him to bits.

Maham is just shown connecting all the peices because jalal did outsmart her .


That is my take , i hope they show the flashbacks but iam not fully confident that they will, let's see.

Kashi

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Edited by elasingh - 11 years ago

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