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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: sonia_1
Another awesome analysis Mansi 👏👏
I think after feeling that special unnamed, unrecognized ' ehsaas '...Jalal cleverly neutralized both... Maham by making it a family issue...and Ruqaiyya, by elevating Salima and Jodha to Begum-e-khaas position.

Thanks Sonia!😛 Yes indeed the unnamed "ehsaas" is now going to make him do some more unexpected things, I am sure. Can't wait!😉

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: PadBear
I rely on your review of the episodes now Mansi, coz I'm busy watching episodes 36-50.

In one of the August episodes Jalal tells MA that the law is whatever he decrees. He may have meant the whole empire or just the harem but both would have been accurate.

I agree with you that he is probably trying to remove MA from internal family politics but don't you think it's a leeetle too late. She has too much reach into all corners of the harem.

So Jo is lecturing on Prem instead of Ghrna now? That's enough to make even an emperor take a few minutes to recover...or never quite recover.

Hahahah Jo is au fait with all the modern humanitarian causes. Poor Ruq has no chance. So unfair.

Thanks so much "Padbear"! (I just love your name!)😛😛

Well actually regarding removing MA from family politics, it needed to be done some time and better now than ever! The problem ws 50% his loyalty to her that prevented him from seeing her as she is. The other 50% is that she's too clever than most of the people surrounding him.

And yes, Jodha now had dropped "ghrna" for "prem"! But is was very noice of her to tell him she doesn't have ghrna anymore. If I were him I too would clutch my heart to prevent it jumping out of my body in shock and surprise!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Bamonforever
Brilliant post Mansi di. 😳

Thank you!😛

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: LizBennett
Mansi,
With due apologies..am putting up two posts here..

Only One of which is directly related to the episode today..

The second ..is pure emotion...and I start out with the second one first...since it is so much more important..here goes..

Bat for the underdog...my dear girl...woo freakin hoo to you..

"The problem in the world over is that a woman is objectified.."

If this statement is inserted contemporaneously...then a standing round of applause to the scribes of this show..Salud!

I put my humour on the back burner here...this is an issue that is extremely corrosive to my heart, nay- eating into my very essence...what happened in New Delhi was the very anithesis of humanity...and yet...there is precious little that our law and order givers have gleaned from it...a photojournalist in Mumbai, an unnamed lass in the hinterland...a three year old child...a child for cryin out loud...the Tehelka scandal...where the F#*k does this end?.. And how...

I am in frustrated tears as I write this...there is no attempt at societal corrections...young men think this is a game...throw a turn of dice...as it were...and then life goes back to normal...and our politicians so much prefer that we go back into our grinding routines...while they play merry with innocent lives...

And seriously...DO NOTHING...

NORMAL???ROUTINE??? Whether it is gun control in the US...and if have seen pictures of those adorable cherubs from Newtown played over and over while you weep your gut out in grief...or rage against the very deities you worship...when you know...you know damnit...that the feisty ,strong young lass was succumbing to the after effects of the brutality wreaked upon her system...you realize that something human within you has just died with a cynical smile...the part that believed that there is a baseline level of humanity and decency in every person...nopes...not anymore

In this context...raising this issue on a public platform deserves a standing ovation...it helps to bring this debate into the very subconscious , semi comatose,status ignoramus/obliviatus of each individual watching the show..that this is not an issue that should ever be allowed to fade from public memory...else the fight will be lost...

We owe it to the life of that young lady...we owe it to those children...and there are just so many of them...we owe it to the survivors...the battle scarred..as it were...else we will forever be in their debt...

Liz, you know what, you are so absolutely right. I would have thought that a historical serial would not take up the cause of women and their "misuse" so openly and well, but via the dialogues of Jodha, the Creatives have indeed adaded their voice to the cause of women, and I hope the message goes down the length and breadth of the country! As a woman ... enough is enough of the crap going around in society with women!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: LizBennett

Applause...applause..standing up...oh shoot...on my couch...and applauding!!! Love it..love it..love it...ok..now u have me talking in 3's...

Thanks as always Liz! You uplift my spirits every day!😛

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: riyya6
👍🏼.. I have not watched the epi yet...but reading what u wrote its like watching the epi itself...

Riyya, I swear you will like this epi a lot, just see the scene where Jalal is holding his heart!

1. I think finally I do agree that love here wont be that of wat is seen in most of the serials these days, but more to deep love like u mentioned. Im just waiting to watch the episode to hear Jodha saying i have no ghrina for you anymore ... n Jalal feeling happy after hearing that unsure why is he feeling that way ... no heavy breathing , eye locks, trip n fall, wind blowing etc 😭

Actually I don't mind not having stupid eyelocks and trip n fall, but I am quite sure you will get your heavy breathing soon!😛

2. Interesting point on maham + 3 begums + Jalal, somehow I felt Jalal is just using ruqaiyya +salima begum but actually his wanting to hear n talk to jodha begum... the rest 2 is just to add the crowd... n I think its actually good that Jalal diverted Maham saying he wants to see this 3 begums. so no chance for maham to say that jalal is listening to only jodha coz three begums present there...

Yes, as I had written, one of the reasons for Jalal calling all three begums could be to give Jodha the protection from maham. She cannot target Jodha if all three begums are involved in the decision!

3. Mansi i like the part when jalal ask for one more day, that was masterstroke by the Emperor...

Yes, that was a splendid masterstroke. Very smart move to just pull the rug from under Maham's feet!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: Zetter
Phew I'm finally able to comment on your post today instead of just liking it and running away sorry was a bit busy and was just stealing some time to come and press the like button 😉

Well it was a wonderful surprise to see or better yet to hear Jalal talk about this new emotion that he is feeling and touching his heart, I can't tell you how happy it make me feel to watch that scene, Jodha's words awoken his sleeping heart...The look on his face as he realizes that his heart started to beat again was a kodak moment 😳 ❤️

Aw for Mahamanga what can I say?! it was great the way Jalal played her like a violin all the while letting her think that she was winning 👏 😆 😆

Another fantastic one Mansi 👏 👏 👏

Zetter, how can you run away every day? Reading your posts makes me remember all those good times!

I knew you would like the Jalal ka heart scene. It's just our cup of tea!

And yes, Maham was being led by the nose yesterday by Jalal. Superb genius, he is, of handling people!

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: skanda12

Thanks so much "Padbear"! (I just love your name!)😛😛

Well actually regarding removing MA from family politics, it needed to be done some time and better now than ever! The problem ws 50% his loyalty to her that prevented him from seeing her as she is. The other 50% is that she's too clever than most of the people surrounding him.

And yes, Jodha now had dropped "ghrna" for "prem"! But is was very noice of her to tell him she doesn't have ghrna anymore. If I were him I too would clutch my heart to prevent it jumping out of my body in shock and surprise!

Jalal's family formulas. In June he told Ruq that he only listens to Bairam Khan + MA + Ruq.

In July he told Ruq that he only listens to Ammi Jaan + MA + Ruq.

And now it's Salima + Jodha + Ruq ?

he cracks me up.

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: hagen
nowadays I feel jodha is becoming a bit hyper these days .I f things dont go her way then she becomes very much tensed and when it does she calms down.I feel its too early for her to interfere in political affairs right away .I know she is doing the right thing but she needs to be patient otherwise she is inviting trouble for herself .I want some maturity in jodhas character it looks so immatured .when jalal told her that he will do justice then she has to stay calm .Its like she is forcing him to take the decision rightaway.And even the precap I felt a bit too much because i would have been happy if all the 3 begums told their view point instead of concentrating only on jodha

I think it is not "Jodha's mistake". It is the way the Creatives have envisaged her character!

She is given the personality of one who fearlessly champions the right causes and does not get calculative about the benefits or dangers to herself. It is a laudable quality in a way or otherwise the world woul d just be full of selfish people who not care what happens to others.

As for Jalal, I think he is beginning to love the person she is and not the person he wants her to be! Her honesty and transparency appeal to him since he has been surrounded by people who flatter insincerely.

Its natural in life that some people want things done immediately and some take it cool. Compared to Jodha Jalal is cool, but even for Jalal Atga said he did well to keep as cool and take one day's time which he too normally may not have before when he used to rush things!

Don't worry, the character of Jodha is coming along nicely, and the three begums will all get a chance to talk for sure, or they wouldn't have been called. The Creatives have just shown the precap where only Jodha's talk has been edited in and shown to us!