JA Nov 29th - Jodha the fearless lady with heart of gold! - Page 3

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Posted: 11 years ago
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All I want to say that If Jo had not threatened SD then , his treachery would have never come out in front of Jalal...He could have proven more dangerous for Jallu...
I agree Jo is not politically savy but it this very quality which makes her fearless to speak he mind...She is indirectly helping Jallu in identifying treachers...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

All I want to say that If Jo had not threatened SD then , his treachery would have never come out in front of Jalal...He could have proven more dangerous for Jallu...

I agree Jo is not politically savy but it this very quality which makes her fearless to speak he mind...She is indirectly helping Jallu in identifying treachers...

Good point Ela. If not for Jo, would SD and BB's true character ever come out in front of Ja. In future because of her fearlessness MA/Adham will be exposed as well. I just love the feisty upright Jo, may be not practical - but then when you are doing the right thing why calculate so much about what harm it can cause to you. If you are always looking after your own well being, then there will be very few left to uplift the weaker folks in society .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: meghanajain

Thanks for your comments Sandhya. Excellent point about Jalal having to protect Jodha as SD did everything to ruin her character. But, SD if not stopped by Jodha would have continued to give her cheapo stares and uncalled sweet talk. He was not taking revenge on Jodha for being honest, it just that he desired her as his begum. I agree that its hard to digest all this coming from a 16th century woman. Our society even when I grew up was to not talk too much and ignore eve teasing. I always hated that because it felt like admitting I am weak so you have the right to humiliate me. I guess being practical and doing the right thing always do not go hand in hand.


No no no. By being practical I didn't mean not doing the right thing but doing the right thing with common sense.

All of jodha's justice campaigns can fruitify only with jalal's solid backup and his practical wisdom and efforts.
Even back at amer bharmal had simply brushed aside her demand for justice for sujamal early on. (Of she was not as strong or as vehement as she is usually with Jalal. )


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


No no no. By being practical I didn't mean not doing the right thing but doing the right thing with common sense.

All of jodha's justice campaigns can fruitify only with jalal's solid backup and his practical wisdom and efforts.
Even back at amer bharmal had simply brushed aside her demand for justice for sujamal early on. (Of she was not as strong or as vehement as she is usually with Jalal. )


Agree that Jo needs Ja support. But, did Ruqu in the past use Ja support to save Moti when she knew the real culprit was Adham. Ruqu looked after herself and was ready to let an innocent get killed. This is where Jo is different, she speaks her mind and brings the concerns to Ja. If she did not even do that how would he know that there is a problem. She tried that in Moti's case as well, failed in convincing Ja and used the shahi farmaan. Even now if Ja does not support her, Jo will certainly find a way. She did try the right way of warning tasneem's parents. But now that no other option is left as Adham has played his card of marrying tasneem, she rightfully reaches out to her husband and the shenshah.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


No no no. By being practical I didn't mean not doing the right thing but doing the right thing with common sense.

All of jodha's justice campaigns can fruitify only with jalal's solid backup and his practical wisdom and efforts.
Even back at amer bharmal had simply brushed aside her demand for justice for sujamal early on. (Of she was not as strong or as vehement as she is usually with Jalal. )


I agree with your comment that she needs Jallu's practical common sense and this is how they complement each other...both partners ek doosare ki kami door karte hain...

Again Jodha is human..she cant have all the qualities...she doesn't have common sense and practicality like MA and Ruku and these both women lack Jodha's idealism...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

I agree with your comment that she needs Jallu's practical common sense and this is how they complement each other...both partners ek doosare ki kami door karte hain...

Again Jodha is human..she cant have all the qualities...she doesn't have common sense and practicality like MA and Ruku and these both women lack Jodha's idealism...

Perfectly put Ela, they compliment each other. I would also like to add that Ma/Ruqu lack the concern for others as no one is more important than their own self. The only passion in their life is power whereas for Jodha its the well being of everyone.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Meghana idialism is seldom practical ...that's why it is idealism...MA and Ruku are self centerned ppl ...and also power centred ...Ruku's shiny gift to Jallu is nothing but all abt his ego and her ego...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jodha's intentions are noble no doubt. But her methods are not convincing.

Agreed, MA is a twisted lady crooked in every way and ruqaiya cares two hoots about anyone or anything beneath her. But this is royalty. Not current day democracy. That Jodha could be so caring inspite of being royal makes her intentions even more praiseworthy.

But coming to methods, wish she could be better. She is so intent and passionate on little things, that she misses the larger picture.

She is so convinced of what she does, and her own correctness that she doesn't spare a thought on the possibility of others' correctness too. (As was evident in the recent fake pregnancy track)

During the narnaal disaster, she was so intent on the save nirdosh praani campaign that she almost rung the death knoll for the mughal sultanate. Had her lep not worked it would have spelt doom for herself and the entire kingdom.

Even during the wedding scenes, inspite of bharmal anf menavati explaining their predicament and the inevitability of the marriage, her anger got the better of her and she burnt the joda. Jodha who did so much to save the life of one moti, risked the lives of so many Ameri soldiers and Ameri praja that day.

She never learns from her mistakes because she never owns or accepts her faults.(Unlike Jalal)

Inspite of her faults, her inner strenghth is admirable no doubt. I only wish, she learns judiciousness from Jalal and he benefits from her inner strength. This would make the story more endearing and balanced. Else, if is simply preaching from her side, this khaas show would be reduced to an aam one, the usual saas bahu sagas on tv.

Anyway, nice sharing views with all of you.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree with the sentiments u expressed, Sandhya. I love Jo s character too, upright, honest & supportive of the underdogs too. But being a begum, she has to master the art of subtlety & tact where it s needed. This only will make her endeavours to do good for the people continuously successful in future also. I admire Jalal more because he ponders & learning from his past mistakes & acts accordingly. I want Jodha to exhibit these qualities too. She s a human too & infallible too, just cannot be right every time. I want her also to change some of her weak points & start thinking on them & make herself into a stronger & wiser begum, all by herself.

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