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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Shyamala ,
didn't u feel the inconsistency they are showing in Jalaal's characater when they showed him giving his comment for Abul Maali?? He asked them to do his Tabaahi even before he can figure out his plan to attack... This is what Jalaal is...same one who sized up the Ulemas in their own game...now how come the same person becomes a Pro-Majnu yearning to tie Payal on his Begum's feet??😕 That too a begum who 90% of the time is so rude and with truck-load of attitude?? If my earlier suspicion goes wrong, then this Jalaal is a sure case of Personality Disorder of the 1st grade...🤢
And yes, it's becoming unbearable to watch both leads chanting abt the Non-existent Vachan ,Vachan and Vachan in every episode...😡😡

Regards,
Kamal



Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, my dear, I was not referring to the exile part specifically, but only to the pran jaye par vachan na jaye principle, which was a maxim for the whole of the Ikshvaku race,but is now almost exclusively attributed to Lord Rama.

As for the scriptwriters watching the old episodes to ensure continuity, making 1 hour and 44 minutes of net telecast footage every single week must be a huge strain - it is the equivalent of many western films weekly. So I suppose they do not have the time.

But moreover, why should they bother when their audience is so indulgent that it does not mind Hamida forgetting that Jodha saved Jalal's life after first endangering it, and that he never gave her any zubaan that he would not touch her?

When it does not give a thought to whether a king has the right to abandon his throne at a whim without giving even a passing thought to what he might then be visiting on his subjects?

When it is happy gushing over an unconvincingly accelerated rush to romance between the two? And will spend even more time crying once the romance hits an underwater rock and is shipwrecked for as many weeks as the CVs want it to be?

An audience gets the entertainment it deserves.


Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kamal dear,

I have stopped doing analyses after the Monday episode, for there was nothing to analyse. Let us see how far they get before hitting that underwater rock that awaits them. Jalal is the only thing worth watching; his face as he was listening to her singing was a treat, as was his way of taking leave of her after that.

I also liked his telling Jodha that she cannot think of replacing Ruqaiya, and that no one could replace Ruqaiya. But his growing obsession with Jodha is taking over his good sense, and making him look weak and far too obliging ever so often.

There is nothing else. And as for the test of Hamida's, I suppose pretty soon, this sarvakalavalli will be instructing Jalal on how to run the Mughal empire, with the Three Musketeers - Hamida, Gulbadan, and Jijianga - as a kind of background chorus of endorsement and praise.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi Shyamala ,
didn't u feel the inconsistency they are showing in Jalaal's characater when they showed him giving his comment for Abul Maali?? He asked them to do his Tabaahi even before he can figure out his plan to attack... This is what Jalaal is...same one who sized up the Ulemas in their own game...now how come the same person becomes a Pro-Majnu yearning to tie Payal on his Begum's feet??😕 That too a begum who 90% of the time is so rude and with truck-load of attitude?? If my earlier suspicion goes wrong, then this Jalaal is a sure case of Personality Disorder of the 1st grade...🤢
And yes, it's becoming unbearable to watch both leads chanting abt the Non-existent Vachan ,Vachan and Vachan in every episode...😡😡

Regards,
Kamal

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes Shyamala,
I too felt the same as Rajat never fails to use even his minimal opportunity to show his grip on dishing out minute emotions😊...in fact did I see right when I thought that I saw Jalaal's eyes glazed and moist when the Bhajan was abt to end with the Last Taan part...😳..(even though with pathetic lip-sync by PS).??😳 It was nice to see him ironing out a li'l the ever-proud Jo with his Ruqaiyya 's place dlg...as well as during the Khanjar Khoj one...But , but...the rest was ...😕😕
(Jalaal bechara aaj kal sirf Gaana, Pravachan, Nritya aur Payal ki Jhankaar mein hi Vyast rehta hai...leaving his wars and expeditions to inefficient Atga Khan et al...Poor RT😭)

Regards,
Kamal


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Kamal dear,

I have stopped doing analyses after the Monday episode, for there was nothing to analyse. Let us see how far they get before hitting that underwater rock that awaits them. Jalal is the only thing worth watching; his face as he was listening to her singing was a treat, as was his way of taking leave of her after that.

I also liked his telling Jodha that she cannot think of replacing Ruqaiya, and that no one could replace Ruqaiya. But his growing obsession with Jodha is taking over his good sense, and making him look weak and far too obliging ever so often.

There is nothing else. And as for the test of Hamida's, I suppose pretty soon, this sarvakalavalli will be instructing Jalal on how to run the Mughal empire, with the Three Musketeers - Hamida, Gulbadan, and Jijianga - as a kind of background chorus of endorsement and praise.

Shyamala

Edited by KDR81 - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Kamal dear,

I have stopped doing analyses after the Monday episode, for there was nothing to analyse. Let us see how far they get before hitting that underwater rock that awaits them. Jalal is the only thing worth watching; his face as he was listening to her singing was a treat, as was his way of taking leave of her after that.

I also liked his telling Jodha that she cannot think of replacing Ruqaiya, and that no one could replace Ruqaiya. But his growing obsession with Jodha is taking over his good sense, and making him look weak and far too obliging ever so often.

There is nothing else. And as for the test of Hamida's, I suppose pretty soon, this sarvakalavalli will be instructing Jalal on how to run the Mughal empire, with the Three Musketeers - Hamida, Gulbadan, and Jijianga - as a kind of background chorus of endorsement and praise.

Shyamala



Hi shyamala Aunty !

Unfortunately they way they are sketching ruqs character I think she will replace herself .

I hope no matter what she does jalal will always be her friend , for she really has no life outside of him , her whole world revolves around him, but that may not happen . Let's see how much jalal will tolerate , this self destruct mode of ruqs . I have a feeble hope that she wil catch herself before she falls . I don't know . Mixed emotions . Happy to see or read about jj but sorry to see ruqs like this .

Why must they put down one woman to make the other look better !!!! It's so dumb that they is audiences are incapable of handling a decently written triangle . If barfii can be a hit then why can't we accept this ??? They really underestimate audiences !!

As for Jo, I'm so glad they are a better side of her ! Even if it comes. With her looking mahaan at times . It's certainly better than what we had to deal with . I'm glad she is considerate of ruqs.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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And Why on earth does Hamida ask Jo about Jalals decision ? Can queen mother not advise her son ? She needs to talk it out with Jo ? Wth *%*^
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My dear Ariel,

I am getting to be strangely disinterested in the goings on, including those between Jalal and Jodha. The treatment of Jodha is by now beginning to resemble that for the she-who-can-do-no-wrong female leads in Pavitra Rishta, surrounded by a gaggle of admirers and dominating their hapless male leads. There are no shades or nuances, either in the character graph or on the actress' face. Just compare Jodha's face (forget the unsatisfactory lip synching, with the mouth open only a bit even when she is hitting the high C note), with a single expression right thru, and the myriad shades on Jalal's.

Jalal is becoming an obsessive, whatever the excuses he gives himself and the audience. His not sending a servant to get his khanjar is a case in point, like his kneeling at her feet and offering to fasten her payal, which took me aback yesterday. He cannot stay away from her, and as she does not reciprocate this even 10%, he is ending up looking weak, as when he was searching for the dagger. This is not my idea of a proud emperor.

It is also poor tactics, strange in such a smart political player. If he ever hopes to get Jodha to care for him, she first has to miss his company. For that he has to stay away and give her a solid dose of benign neglect. Not that this is going to happen.

If this goes on, Jodha will become more and more smug and uppity and will never give a hoot for a man who seems unable to exist without being around her. The very off putting,rude way in which she greets him the next morning was typical of this attitude, and no,it was not meant to benefit Ruqaiya.

And the Jodha maa bannewali track will be worse.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Ariel


Hi shyamala Aunty !

Unfortunately they way they are sketching ruqs character I think she will replace herself .

I hope no matter what she does jalal will always be her friend , for she really has no life outside of him , her whole world revolves around him, but that may not happen . Let's see how much jalal will tolerate , this self destruct mode of ruqs . I have a feeble hope that she wil catch herself before she falls . I don't know . Mixed emotions . Happy to see or read about jj but sorry to see ruqs like this .

Why must they put down one woman to make the other look better !!!! It's so dumb that they is audiences are incapable of handling a decently written triangle . If barfii can be a hit then why can't we accept this ??? They really underestimate audiences !!

As for Jo, I'm so glad they are a better side of her ! Even if it comes. With her looking mahaan at times . It's certainly better than what we had to deal with . I'm glad she is considerate of ruqs.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Kamal dear,

I have stopped doing analyses after the Monday episode, for there was nothing to analyse. Let us see how far they get before hitting that underwater rock that awaits them. Jalal is the only thing worth watching; his face as he was listening to her singing was a treat, as was his way of taking leave of her after that.

I also liked his telling Jodha that she cannot think of replacing Ruqaiya, and that no one could replace Ruqaiya. But his growing obsession with Jodha is taking over his good sense, and making him look weak and far too obliging ever so often.

There is nothing else. And as for the test of Hamida's, I suppose pretty soon, this sarvakalavalli will be instructing Jalal on how to run the Mughal empire, with the Three Musketeers - Hamida, Gulbadan, and Jijianga - as a kind of background chorus of endorsement and praise.

Shyamala


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My dear Ariel,

I am getting to be strangely disinterested in the goings on, including those between Jalal and Jodha. The treatment of Jodha is by now beginning to resemble that for the she-who-can-do-no-wrong female leads in Pavitra Rishta, surrounded by a gaggle of admirers and dominating their hapless male leads. There are no shades or nuances, either in the character graph or on the actress' face. Just compare Jodha's face (forget the unsatisfactory lip synching, with the mouth open only a bit even when she is hitting the high C note), with a single expression right thru, and the myriad shades on Jalal's.

Jalal is becoming an obsessive, whatever the excuses he gives himself and the audience. His not sending a servant to get his khanjar is a case in point, like his kneeling at her feet and offering to fasten her payal, which took me aback yesterday. He cannot stay away from her, and as she does not reciprocate this even 10%, he is ending up looking weak, as when he was searching for the dagger. This is not my idea of a proud emperor.

It is also poor tactics, strange in such a smart political player. If he ever hopes to get Jodha to care for him, she first has to miss his company. For that he has to stay away and give her a solid dose of benign neglect. Not that this is going to happen.

If this goes on, Jodha will become more and more smug and uppity and will never give a hoot for a man who seems unable to exist without being around her. The very off putting,rude way in which she greets him the next morning was typical of this attitude, and no,it was not meant to benefit Ruqaiya.

And the Jodha maa bannewali track will be worse.

Shyamala Aunty




I haven't watched yet. Just read the update . Just like you I'm not blown away by these episodes . The court scene was nice yesterday but they ruined it with HB Asking Jo today about it. I agree with your post , she will become mahaan . Nari shakti And all that !!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I was bored with yesterdays episode.. I think I miss Maham Anga..
Rahim was so cute yesterday..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Aunty I have just seen the last epi, and yes I don't know why hamida asked Jodha what Jalal did was right or wrong?/ What does she know about politics and all??😕
Anyway I think some people are mad at Jalal as why he himself went to look for his dagger when he has plenty of servants who always present there to help him in every way. well, I don't know whether I am right or wrong but I assume that servants keep account of those things what shahensha handed them like his headgear after finishing his court's duty, ornaments, dresses, shoes, etc. But he doesn't part with two thing one is his sword and the other is that dagger, Even if for sometime like when he sleeps or visits his begums he be part with his sword, but the dagger always remains with him. And this dagger saved his and Jodha's life from our beloved late Mohan, not to forget..😉..

May be that's why he didn't ask any servant to find it out because they possibly don't know how it looks like, and may be most of the people in those time used to keep a dagger with them always for safety..

The singing part needed some more effort, Jodha needs to open her mouth a little more when she is hitting the c note



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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


I was bored with yesterdays episode.. I think I miss Maham Anga..
Rahim was so cute yesterday..


I don't know what is happening and why?/ have the cvs been changed??/ Last episode only worth watching due to rahim. He is cute.

I am eagerly waiting to see some war strategies jalal make instead b'day planning. Even now a days I am liking ruq-jalal chemistry. I liked the precap also, where at least we got a glance of a calculative Jalal who was trying to sort out ruqaiyaa's problem, nevertheless it's his personal life problem but still, he needs some calculation there too.

i feel the forum is sleeping too. Is it due to weather change?//😆😆

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