Weekend Analysis Thread 17:Love has no Logic

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Ela Singh

@elasingh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

Jyoti excellent analysis...Yes I agree love has no logic and if it has logic then it is not love becoz logic comes from mind...

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: elasingh
mansi I agree whole heartedly with ur post...Forum is very biased towards Jalal and anti Jodha...Even after yesterday's episode Jodha is not praised as much as she should be...or as Jallu would be praised in similar circumstances...

Again I agree that ppl often repeat that Jodha comes from a small state like Amer...and what will she understand abt the politics of Agra...This argument is mostly used to bash Jodha...

Ela, I appreciate your appreciation! You are very balanced and besides, I know that you are very well-read on this whole history too! Hats off to your point of view!👏👏

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Alakh

@Autumn_Rose

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Yes you are right. Jalal appreciates her honesty but he was bitter in saying so because he Pitied him and it was an insult to the emperor. Never mind her father was in a similar situation and her marriage to someone she hated was due to the fact that she was a royal and she had to pay the price of being a royal princess. Even when she was engaged to Sunshine her father did not listen to her pleas that her sister loved him. He did what he saw fit for his kingdom.

Her defending jalal has more to do with her new found friendship towards him and the fact that she knows him now. She cares for him, but I don't see this as love. She has witnessed many times that Jalal does not go back on his word nor does he lie. The same applies to Jalal, he knows that she is transparent. Even if she blames Shareef and Adham, jalal will be angry with her but dismiss it as a misunderstanding. He has by now realized that she is incapable of playing mind games. She took the blame for the MC and was ready to die.. she even told everyone that she was responsible for the tiger attack. No other begam would have dared to do so.

Jodha is now enjoying the attention from Jalal..

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abhi

@abhi786

Rocker

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Posted: 11 years ago

#14

Joyothi and Mansi very good post...For me Yesterday episode belonged to Jodha... She supported and his decision not to give the Fort before her family members even though it will effect suakanya wedding, but she told take war or leave mandap...

Jodha was worried first time Jalaal was being cheated and he gets the truth from the precap.. Trying to set the wedding clearing the misunderstandings...

I think jalaal will not believe jodha, but she will keep her eye on Maham-sharif-Adham...

CVS showing the differences between characters. and journey of two different characters of Jalaal and Jodha...

In the four walls, they are wife and husband.. Both Jodha and Ruku are intelligent, beautiful and that command talk give it back to Jalaal..
while Ruku loves Jalaal power and the same power he give her ( To boss hareem) while Jodha saw more or negetives sides especially beginning days of marriage and after MC track...

It takes time for her to forgot all the bitterness, even though she started caring in him, even in a twisted way...

The journey will be of Jalaal, Jodha with changing their destiny.. How Jodha mould herself in mugal and find a place in the heart of Jalaal and also Hareem people..

While Ruku supported Jalaal everything he does, satisfy his physical needs and agrees to him whatever he does even if it is evil..Will she accept the changing dimension in JJ..Whom jalaal will look forward till now he was with Ruku, will he starts sharing with Jodha all things.. How he will balance his mind (Ruku) and heart (Jodha)...

Here ironically Jalaal both Ruku and Jodha boss over Jalaal, while one to control his mind and one will control his heart..

Jalaal and shariff... Shariff is a man who beats his wife and doesn't allow her to talk, while Jalaal listen to women, as Ruku, but even jodha he married for revenge, he listened to her words atleast he has that sensibility to listen other people points...

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Mansi

@skanda12

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Yes you are right. Jalal appreciates her honesty but he was bitter in saying so because he Pitied him and it was an insult to the emperor. Never mind her father was in a similar situation and her marriage to someone she hated was due to the fact that she was a royal and she had to pay the price of being a royal princess. Even when she was engaged to Sunshine her father did not listen to her pleas that her sister loved him. He did what he saw fit for his kingdom.

Her defending jalal has more to do with her new found friendship towards him and the fact that she knows him now. She cares for him, but I don't see this as love. She has witnessed many times that Jalal does not go back on his word nor does he lie. The same applies to Jalal, he knows that she is transparent. Even if she blames Shareef and Adham, jalal will be angry with her but dismiss it as a misunderstanding. He has by now realized that she is incapable of playing mind games. She took the blame for the MC and was ready to die.. she even told everyone that she was responsible for the tiger attack. No other begam would have dared to do so.

Jodha is now enjoying the attention from Jalal..

Very good point, Alakh!👏👏👏

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Mansi

@skanda12

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: abhi786
Joyothi and Mansi very good post...For me Yesterday episode belonged to Jodha... She supported and his decision not to give the Fort before her family members even though it will effect suakanya wedding, but she told take war or leave mandap...

Jodha was worried first time Jalaal was being cheated and he gets the truth from the precap.. Trying to set the wedding clearing the misunderstandings...

I think jalaal will not believe jodha, but she will keep her eye on Maham-sharif-Adham...

CVS showing the differences between characters. and journey of two different characters of Jalaal and Jodha...

In the four walls, they are wife and husband.. Both Jodha and Ruku are intelligent, beautiful and that command talk give it back to Jalaal..
while Ruku loves Jalaal power and the same power he give her ( To boss hareem) while Jodha saw more or negetives sides especially beginning days of marriage and after MC track...

It takes time for her to forgot all the bitterness, even though she started caring in him, even in a twisted way...

The journey will be of Jalaal, Jodha with changing their destiny.. How Jodha mould herself in mugal and find a place in the heart of Jalaal and also Hareem people..

While Ruku supported Jalaal everything he does, satisfy his physical needs and agrees to him whatever he does even if it is evil..Will she accept the changing dimension in JJ..Whom jalaal will look forward till now he was with Ruku, will he starts sharing with Jodha all things.. How he will balance his mind (Ruku) and heart (Jodha)...

Here ironically Jalaal both Ruku and Jodha boss over Jalaal, while one to control his mind and one will control his heart..

Jalaal and shariff... Shariff is a man who beats his wife and doesn't allow her to talk, while Jalaal listen to women, as Ruku, but even jodha he married for revenge, he listened to her words atleast he has that sensibility to listen other people points...

Abhi, the sentence I marked in blue makes most sense to me. We have to see that the journey of two people towards love can take different forms for each person, and sometimes consistency of character cannot be expected as a rule from people falling in love at different speeds.

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dlip

@dlip

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#17

So if something wrong in shown in any episode , I wont react to it instantly as I m sure everything shown has a reason ...I will only react after the particular track is over

- Agree 100%

Liked the discussion

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Mansi

@skanda12

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#18

@Jyoti:

This part of your post is one of the best pieces of analysis I have seen from you ...

Jalal appreciates Jodha's brutal honesty and straightforward nature because it gives him a chance to prove Jodha's many misconceptions about him wrong 👍🏼...

We might not like Jodha for being so brutally honest but Jalal likes her that way and so unlike us , he does not get pissed off with it but rather enjoy it and takes it as challenge to change many of her misconceptions about Mughals ...

When Jodha told Jalal about how the jewelleries were stolen from Kali maa's temple and thats why she wished for his head , Jalal instead of getting pissed off , he actually bows his head down in front of Kali maa and makes Jodha realise that its not necessary to always cut your head , u can even bow down your head and fulfill the promise to kali maa and then he orders his soldiers to get all the jewelleries back too 😳... End result .. Jodha's misconception about Jalal will never bow his head down to anyone because of his false pride is proved wrong 😃

When Jodha went on and on about her family , Rajputs and the grt king Prithviraj chauhan , again Jalal dint get pissed off at all but instead he appreciated the way Jodha praised her Rajput kings and showed her loyalty and honesty too ..Jalal dint go on to defend his ownself by proving how he too is a great and fearless warrior but instead he decided to show it with his action and next moment we see Jalal putting his own life in danger and taming the mad elephant successfullly 😉👏👏..End result ..Jodha's misconception about Jalal will never risk his own life being a shehenshah but will rather send common man in the mouth to death to save his ownself is again proved wrong 😃

Jodha again goes and asks Jalal to leave Amer so that Sukanya's marriage can go ahead ...We all expected Jalal to get pissed off with this insensitive behaviour of Jodha but instead Jalal shocks us all by being cool and even goes around admiring Jodha's dance followed by flirting with her too 😆😛...Everyone were left disappointed with this behavior of Jalal and started questioning why is Jalal not reacting to this nonsense of Jodha 😡.. But Jalal has always proved it with his action than words when the right time comes and this time too he will do exactly the same next week by making sure Sukanya's marriage goes ahead successfully without anymore issues even if it means making some sort of political pact with that groom's father which would not hv been possible if he was not present there in Amer 😉.. End result ..Jodha's misconception about Jalal's presense might b the reason for Sukanya's marriage coming to a halt again is proved wrong 😃

So every moment whenever Jodha challenged Jalal with her words and misconceptions , Jalal remained cool and proved Jodha wrong with his actions ... End Result .. Jodha will slowly start her realisation by next week regarding how she was totally wrong about Jalal because of her past misconceptions about Mughals in general 😃.. Thats why we need to give time to the CVs regarding what they r showing rather than jump the gun based on one or two epis because everything is shown with a purpose 😳...

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Ela Singh

@elasingh

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: dilipc302
So if something wrong in shown in any episode , I wont react to it instantly as I m sure everything shown has a reason ...I will only react after the particular track is over

- Agree 100%

Liked the discussion

dilip I have also seen you in bv forum...

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livelytanu

@livelytanu

Trailblazer

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#20

Nice analysis! 😊

yeah love has no logic. yeah I agree with you everytime Jodha was rude with jalal in the past & the way jalal defended himself everytime made Jodha understand Jalal better. And that is the reason y Jodha supported jalal.

I am loving the cute nok-jhok phase of jalal-Jodha. 😳