Weekend Analysis Thread 17:Love has no Logic - Page 7

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi, word! The crappiest show ever. It pains more when you keep thinking is this really why they ended PV 1 with a powerhouse casts. The Yeh dil hai song which its each and every lyrics reminds us on the epic journey of Aarya is been used on another couple.😭😡 PV 1 is the first show am rewatching and feeling the beauty of the show as if its the first tme am watching it. Gurmeet and Kratka gave so much to this show.⭐️⭐️ But am proud so very proud as the awards and number of languages its been dubbed says it all.👏 i can go on and on talking when its about this beautiful show that touched me more than anything EVER! ❤️

Mansi, as usual u get my 👍🏼. read ur entire post. the questions u have raised r right. but to tell u the truth, they r too much logical. 😉 i mean , if somebody had already cast the characters in their mind, ur positiveness will be too much to digest. the story for few ppl can be like from mills and boons.

a hero brutal, cruel, with many negative points in him, still he is always right only coz he is a hero. and here Jalal is Shehenshah (that to played by rajat who is real reason of such thinking). so like the hero of mills and boons he has every right to be the way he is and he even has the right to break the heart of Jodha, coz later he will repent and become "The Gr8". so it's assumed that he is gr8 right now, and even if he is wrong, Jodha has to bear , coz she is female lead of the so called " LOVE STORY". so what if the show is hestorical, we r watching it in 21st century, where all saas-bahu dramas have made our mindset like the bahu should be all time goody-goody, doing seva to her hubby (however she dislikes him) and her in laws, accepting all their taunts and torture, not answering back , trying to please them all the time with all her virtues. she can't have a single flaw in her, means she has to be a GOD , not a human, and so she has to be perfect all the time.

if ppl wants Jodha to be like this, then what we get in JA is wrong all the time. so ur questions as I said r too much logical and so hard to digest. but from me there is again 👏👏👏 to u. i think few of us r using the basic tagline for our thinking. " Dehshat hai Jalal ka doosra naam, Kya Jodha bana payegi usse insaan?" so we have accepted Jalal has many flaws and he is like the demon who is to be transformed in the human or the GR8. at the same time we think Jodha also has her flaws but she is more human. so we expect him to change mostly and her just slightly.

one basic difference is there. some ppl think with heart, some with brains. so opinion differs. if ur heart rules, Jalal is always right, if ur brain rules both r right in their position given the conditions they were together. and if both ur heart and brain work together, u can enjoy everything (including negativity) with a positive attitude.

rest abt precap, I m expecting Jalal to know that Jodha has stood be his decision and then while looking for her he finds her listening AK - Shareef convo. he too joins her and knows the truth. and while he wants to punish them , Jodha will remind himabt MA and Bakshi bano and will ask him to forgive them for now and decide abt them in agra. and so Jalal will agree with her and will do some deal with Suku's FIL and the marriage will take place. and this will make them trust eachother or atleast a start of trust btw them.

this is just my prediction. don't know how CVs will continue...

Hi,
Though I am not sure of the Sultanate's criteria for granting posts or places, But I think it would save both ends , If, Jalaal instead of gifting the Fort to Wajinder and his Father, Offers the Subahdaari of the Fort of Ratanpur...This way neither does he lose the Fort , Nor does the Protection fo Wajindra's family gets hampered...And moreover, they legally come under Jalaal's Sarparastee... 😊
Regards,
Kamal

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Mansi, as usual u get my 👍🏼. read ur entire post. the questions u have raised r right. but to tell u the truth, they r too much logical. 😉 i mean , if somebody had already cast the characters in their mind, ur positiveness will be too much to digest. the story for few ppl can be like from mills and boons.

a hero brutal, cruel, with many negative points in him, still he is always right only coz he is a hero. and here Jalal is Shehenshah (that to played by rajat who is real reason of such thinking). so like the hero of mills and boons he has every right to be the way he is and he even has the right to break the heart of Jodha, coz later he will repent and become "The Gr8". so it's assumed that he is gr8 right now, and even if he is wrong, Jodha has to bear , coz she is female lead of the so called " LOVE STORY". so what if the show is hestorical, we r watching it in 21st century, where all saas-bahu dramas have made our mindset like the bahu should be all time goody-goody, doing seva to her hubby (however she dislikes him) and her in laws, accepting all their taunts and torture, not answering back , trying to please them all the time with all her virtues. she can't have a single flaw in her, means she has to be a GOD , not a human, and so she has to be perfect all the time.

if ppl wants Jodha to be like this, then what we get in JA is wrong all the time. so ur questions as I said r too much logical and so hard to digest. but from me there is again 👏👏👏 to u.

Brand Strategist? that's very good job. and i think very much in to research. that's the answer for u being so positive. good.

i think few of us r using the basic tagline for our thinking. " Dehshat hai Jalal ka doosra naam, Kya Jodha bana payegi usse insaan?" so we have accepted Jalal has many flaws and he is like the demon who is to be transformed in the human or the GR8. at the same time we think Jodha also has her flaws but she is more human. so we expect him to change mostly and her just slightly.

one basic difference is there. some ppl think with heart, some with brains. so opinion differs. if ur heart rules, Jalal is always right, if ur brain rules both r right in their position given the conditions they were together. and if both ur heart and brain work together, u can enjoy everything (including negativity) with a positive attitude.

rest abt precap, I m expecting Jalal to know that Jodha has stood be his decision and then while looking for her he finds her listening AK - Shareef convo. he too joins her and knows the truth. and while he wants to punish them , Jodha will remind himabt MA and Bakshi bano and will ask him to forgive them for now and decide abt them in agra. and so Jalal will agree with her and will do some deal with Suku's FIL and the marriage will take place. and this will make them trust eachother or atleast a start of trust btw them.

this is just my prediction. don't know how CVs will continue...

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi,
Though I am not sure of the Sultanate's criteria for granting posts or places, But I think it would save both ends , If, Jalaal instead of gifting the Fort to Wajinder and his Father, Offers the Subahdaari of the Fort of Ratanpur...This way neither does he lose the Fort , Nor does the Protection fo Wajindra's family gets hampered...And moreover, they legally come under Jalaal's Sarparastee... 😊
Regards,
Kamal

@mansi ! You totally misunderstood the transform line the way I meant it ! Lol

I have always told you that I am the happiest person that they did not follow something on the lines of the tag line that "Jalal is a Janwar will jodha make him a human ?" 🤪

Because you cannot a spoon feed a person if thy don't have that goodness inside in them !
And thankfully that is not the case where jodha is Mahaan and is teaching Jalal how to be Akbar !

I agree with whatever you said abt it ! That jodha and Jalal are catalysts and they bring out the better in the other !
They cannot spoon feedeach other to be good and do good !
If Jodha's hatred brings out the humility in Jalal, Jalal's flirting and obsession brings her subdued heart to the surface back !

My only damn point is that while doing this they need not forget this is a historical show, you can add fction and masala and passion for my taste, BUT not to the extent you take the regality out of these huge characters ! Me and you hated that meena bazar jodha who taunted Jalal left right and I'm forgetting it but I think you had a howlarious title for it - fool no. 1,2,3 or what !? 🤣
Now see that's what I mean that they can keep these fights going but not by compromising on their royalty ! Why show jodha as someone who has no ounce of tolerance towards politics and all ???

I don't expect a perfect show but some sparks of regality Gould be there ! That's what makes them Aldha and not a regular Gul Khan or Star one type couple ! :)

And thanks for my tareef too ! :* *no kiss emos :(* shorry lol

Originally posted by: -Khush-

@mansi ! You totally misunderstood the transform line the way I meant it ! Lol

I have always told you that I am the happiest person that they did not follow something on the lines of the tag line that "Jalal is a Janwar will jodha make him a human ?" 🤪

Because you cannot a spoon feed a person if thy don't have that goodness inside in them !
And thankfully that is not the case where jodha is Mahaan and is teaching Jalal how to be Akbar !

I agree with whatever you said abt it ! That jodha and Jalal are catalysts and they bring out the better in the other !
They cannot spoon feedeach other to be good and do good !
If Jodha's hatred brings out the humility in Jalal, Jalal's flirting and obsession brings her subdued heart to the surface back !

My only damn point is that while doing this they need not forget this is a historical show, you can add fction and masala and passion for my taste, BUT not to the extent you take the regality out of these huge characters ! Me and you hated that meena bazar jodha who taunted Jalal left right and I'm forgetting it but I think you had a howlarious title for it - fool no. 1,2,3 or what !? 🤣
Now see that's what I mean that they can keep these fights going but not by compromising on their royalty ! Why show jodha as someone who has no ounce of tolerance towards politics and all ???

I don't expect a perfect show but some sparks of regality Gould be there ! That's what makes them Aldha and not a regular Gul Khan or Star one type couple ! :)

And thanks for my tareef too ! :* *no kiss emos :(* shorry lol

Originally posted by: skanda12

Abie, not only are they doing all this, but just look at the quality of the family members! In PV1 we at least had Pankaj, Pratik their families, and the parents were polished people. Here in PV2 we have absolute dehaatis with atrocious accents and boorish manners, and foul language! The supporting cast is so bad and the sidey tracks like Sheila and Rohan etc are so pathetic, kya kahen!😡 There is no comparison at all between PV1 and PV2. The classiness has gone!

@Khush : Jalal transforming Jodha might happen too once Jodha starts falling for Jalal and starts learning that finese from him as the emperor 😳 .. I think we r expecting things to happen too soon .. right now its only the phase of Jalal's transformation as he is falling for Jodha ... Jodha is yet to feel that love for him and the day she starts feeling , we might see a bit of her transformation too ..

Coming to the privat convo which I said .., like Mansi said again we r assuming many things about how royals behave based on what we read in books .. none of us really saw them ... so what CVs r showing r part of their own imagination too .. mayb CVs want to protray them as normal humans with flaws when a husband and wife r hving a tiff in private bedroom .. I mean even today noone has seen how Prince Charles and Lady Diana behaved with each other in their private bedroom which resulted in their divorce later.. hai na 😆 .. in public they always act like royals but beyond that we cannot really say about thier private life much .. they not b as polished as we r assuming .,. Jalal trying to kill Jodha in private was a bit too extreme shown but even then I said he is only human who just lost his child and went bonkers that time ...


@Diksha and Mansi : Interesting convo between u both 👍🏼

@Abie : Yess no more discussion on other show haan 😆😆

@Jyo... Blasphemy! 🤣 Diana-Charles to seedha Jalal-Jodha! 😡 🤣 abbey yaar! British royalty and Indian Royalty mein utna similarity hai jitni Jo and Jalal mein! 🤣