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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Most generations were against each other.

Exceptions are present everywhere. 😊

And many of them used to show all signs of care & cordiality, while stabbing knives in each other's backs. 😆

Am sure there were cases of brothers & sisters loving each other a lot too.

Like in the case of Aurangzeb with Jahanara. He loved her to bits & pieces but she never did. It was only after their father's death that she shifted to his harem as his Paadshaah Begum which infuriated his wives a lot.

But he was adamant that only his Jahan Aapaa would be his chief Begum in name & status only of course.

May I know what is meant by Padshah Begum?As far as my memory goes, Jahan ara was Aurangzeb's sister, Shahjahan's daughter. How come she shifted to his harem?Did bro n sis also used to marry?😲 Pl. tell me😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: geeta58

May I know what is meant by Padshah Begum?As far as my memory goes, Jahan ara was Aurangzeb's sister, Shahjahan's daughter. How come she shifted to his harem?Did bro n sis also used to marry?😲 Pl. tell me😕

Padshah begum means she is the empress of mughal empire
Sisters and daughters could be empress instead of wives in mughals
So Kanzadha- babar's sister, jahanara and roshanara- aurangzebs sisters etc were empress
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Padshah begum means she is the empress of mughal empire

Sisters and daughters could be empress instead of wives in mughals
So Kanzadha- babar's sister, jahanara and roshanara- aurangzebs sisters etc were empress

thank you fr that info.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Emperor Akbar's best friend

The world wonders and thinks that Akbar became tolerant after marrying a Rajput princess Hira Kunwari in 1562. Yes, Akbar started following liberal policies towards all citizens after marrying in 1562. But the real reason and his advicer who suggested him to do away with islamic way of ruling to make him more acceptable to the citizens of indian sub continent and make it more liberal was Maharaja of Rewa Ram Singh.
Who was Maharaja Ram Singh?
Maharaja Ram Singh was the Prince of Rewa(Madhya Pradesh) and the childhood friend of Akbar. Akbar remained very close to him through out his life and they attended each others special ocassions whether weddings or other ocassions. In childhood both Ram Singh and Jalal were given the same upbringing and tutors and education. Though Akbar who was dyslexia could not really become literate and was more interested in hunting, ridding camels, asses etc but both spent their childhood in company of each other.
Two of the Navratnas of Akbar, Tansen(Tannu Pandey) and Birbal(original name Mahesh Das.) were sent from Rewa court by Maharaja Ramchandra Singh once Akbar became the Emperor of India. Birbal was born in Sidhi District of Rewa Kingdom and was working in Maharaja Ram Singh's court and so was the famous Tansen. Akbar's love for taming and keeping tigers as pets also came from Rewa only. Rewa was famous for white tigers and the first one that was caught was caught was called Mohan.
Maharaja Ram Singh ruled Rewa independently although Akbar had subjugated all the other Rajput princes. The Mughal army never was a threat for the citizens of Rewa thanks to Akbar and Ram Singh's friendship. It was believed that Akbar even accompanied his friend to temple on special ocassions(festivals like diwali, rakhi) in childhood and was very well aware of the hindu customs like aarthi, prasad(unlike what was wrongly shown in movie/serial that he learned it after marrying Hira Kunwari) as these were conducted in.the palace of Rewa King.

Was Akbar born n brought up in Rewa? is that the same kingdom, where Hamidabanu was staying n gave birth to akbar while Humayun was in exile, as reffered to in the serial?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: geeta58

Was Akbar born n brought up in Rewa? is that the same kingdom, where Hamidabanu was staying n gave birth to akbar while Humayun was in exile, as reffered to in the serial?

yes
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Ranadil - An orphan princess who dared to take on the mighty Aurangzeb

Here is one more of those classic love story from the mughal royal family. Now all of us are aware about Salim-Anarkali, Jehangir-Nur Jahan and Shah Jahan-Mumtaz love stories. Also Salim-Anarkali story is a story of fiction not real and Nur Jahan by her conduct and greed for power totally disgraced true love, Shah Jahan also became a womaniser after Mumtaz death so all these three were not real love stories.
But there have been other great love stories that never came to the fore because the prince could not become emperors like Salim and Shah Jahan and are buried in the anals of history. Here is one such true story that surpasses easily any of the above mentioned stories. But it is a tragic one.
Dara Sukoh was the crown prince of Mughal empire and the eldest son of Shah Jahan. He had three wives. First was Nadira Begum his cousin sister, second was a christian from Georgia(wdaipuri begum) and last but not the least was Ranadil an orphan. Dara met this orphan Ranadil dancing and singing on streets and grew fond of her and finally married her despite oppositions.
Ranadil an destitute became the 3rd and last wife of the Dara Sukoh the future Mughal emperor and crown prince of Mughal dyansty. If there was a sufi saint kind of person among all Mughal princes it was this Dara Sukoh. He was very selfless and honest so much that Shah Jahan loved him to death but also was sacred of how his son will rule this empire with such a good heart and soul.
Dara Sukoh loved Ranadil very much and was very kind and considerate to her. He knew as an orphan she had a tough life so he ensured he gave her a family that she never had. Dara ensured that Ranadil got whatever she desired or did not even ask and took nice care of her. But Aurangzeb killed him and some of his sons in the most cruel manner. Nadira his first wife swallowed poison after hearing that he had died, Udaipuri begum joined Aurangzeb's harem but Ranadil refused and was imprisoned.
Ranadil was a great composer and singer, so to overcome her grief she started composing songs in memory of her beloved husband Dara Sukoh and sang them in prision. Aurangzeb had banned poems and singing in his kingdom but Ranadil defied him. Her songs constantly reminded him of the cruel deeds he had done to his elder brother and his family members. Aurangzeb was infussed, he warned her that if she does not stop her singing he would tear her to pieces and feed her to dogs. But Ranadil was made of stronger stuff she would continue singing even when he visited her. That irritated Aurangzeb a lot. He would speak of all sort of cruel ways to torture her or kill her.
Slowly Aurangzeb started falling for her and one wrote her a letter that he wants to swing using her hairs. Ranadil replied back sending a silver plate with a white cloth covered on top(errily reminding him of Dara's head sent to Shah Jahan at Agra fort). Aurangzeb removed the white cloth and it had her hairs with a note "Oh emperor, here is the hair follicles that you liked"
Aurangzeb did not learn his lesson. Once he again wrote another letter to her that he want to see her lovely face every day and to be his mistress in his harem. Ranadil took a knife and disfigured her face and wrapped this bloodied knife in white cloth and sent to him with message "Oh emperor the face that you said is lovely has now turned very ugly. As evidence i am sending this knife and cloth. Please understand till my last breathe my heart, soul and body only belongs to Dara. Let me die with his thoughts only".
Aurangzeb tried many times to change her mind but the great lady never cowered to his threats, torture or bowed down to him. An ordinary orphan girl who sang and danced on streets to make a living thus tortured the great emperor Aurangzeb(which no one else dared). She was a great lady always loyal to her husband and his memories. She stood by him till her last breathe making him very proud.
Here is to the epitome of true love of crown prince Dara who honoured an orphan singer and dancer by making her his wife and Princess Ranadil who stayed loyal and gratitude to him and his memories till last breathe of her life undergoing many tortures and persecutions in a dungeon but never bending to the mighty emperor Aurangzeb.
She could have joined his harem and lived a life of luxury as Aurangzeb was totally smitten by her making him dance to her tunes or killed herself like Nadira. But she lived despite all tortures and threats because she wanted to remind him of his evil deeds that he had done to her husband, her step sons and daughters(dara's kids) and to his siblings and father.
If there is a love story that can be truely called immortal it is this story of love between the crown prince of the mighty mughal empire and an orphan street singer and dancer. Even death and torture could not make them apart and they stayed loyal despite trial and tribulations.
Dara Sukoh may not have built Ranadil a Taj Mahal or Ranadil did not become his children's mother but their actions and their loyalty to each other under trying circumstances and never ending love stands testimony to an immortal love. Its just that Aurangzeb destroyed all documents and testimonies which had references to these two's love. But that sands of time still testify the undying love of Crown Prince Dara Sukoh and Princess Ranadil

That's an ode to the true love 👍🏼,👏.Hope some day another Govarikar will make a movie on them to bring this story to light.But myview prem, frm where did u get this info?likewise could there be a story, I mean real, abt Mughal princess falling in love with a commoner? n opposed?Just making u think n run into those cupboards frm where the skeietones tumble out.😉 seriously, the movies like Jahan aara, shahjahan, now look so shallow.😭
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: geeta58

That's an ode to the true love 👍🏼,👏.Hope some day another Govarikar will make a movie on them to bring this story to light.But myview prem, frm where did u get this info?likewise could there be a story, I mean real, abt Mughal princess falling in love with a commoner? n opposed?Just making u think n run into those cupboards frm where the skeietones tumble out.😉 seriously, the movies like Jahan aara, shahjahan, now look so shallow.😭

i got this while reading in library - mughal chronicles
forget it they only make movies on winners aurangzeb won so we have roads named after him in delhi, dara sukoh, khusrau lost no roads on their names
i read roshanara loved shivaji and helped him escape from aurangzeb custody. that will be interesting movie topic.
jaharana also loved someone and so did zebunissa too.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: myviewprem

i got this while reading in library - mughal chronicles
forget it they only make movies on winners aurangzeb won so we have roads named after him in delhi, dara sukoh, khusrau lost no roads on their names
i read roshanara loved shivaji and helped him escape from aurangzeb custody. that will be interesting movie topic.
jaharana also loved someone and so did zebunissa too.

Was Ranadil a Hindu?She might not only be beautiful, but also must be having golden voice. n Darasukhoh also might be a lover of music, just my gues.Btw thanx.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: geeta58

I havn't heard of any other love story, of which u r talking. I think Salim anarkali story is a fiction.But may be as u say we don't know what is burried under the hisory.The historical importance of JO-AK story would not hv struck a cord but fr the beautiful movie👍🏼


Yes even I have not read any of the stories posted here before this.
Khusrau's and Randila's are the most heart breaking. As u said I wish someone brings them to light wid movies or any other form.

if not for tat beautiful movie JA, we wudnt hv got so much of interest in this show. Thanks to HR and Ash's brilliant performances👏.

P.S: I want to believe tat Salim-Anarkali story is fiction but it raises to the tomb on which Salim has engraved tat it belongs to his beloved. If its not Anarkali, then who is tat beloved?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: knumnum


Yes even I have not read any of the stories posted here before this.
Khusrau's and Randila's are the most heart breaking. As u said I wish someone brings them to light wid movies or any other form.

if not for tat beautiful movie JA, we wudnt hv got so much of interest in this show. Thanks to HR and Ash's brilliant performances👏.

P.S: I want to believe tat Salim-Anarkali story is fiction but it raises to the tomb on which Salim has engraved tat it belongs to his beloved. If its not Anarkali, then who is tat beloved?

May be one of his 18 wives the unknown ones because man bai grave is in Allahabad with her son and daughter, jodh bai was in agra now in MP, nur jahan is in lahore. So it may be Sahib jamal his 2nd wife who was a commoner and he faced grave opposition from parents to marry her(nother of parvez) but her grave is already in lahore with her son parvez buried there. So 4 wives are ruled out. Must be one of the other 14 wives whom he obivously love very much from writings on the grave??? Only jehangir can say who it is, its impossible to guess now with 100% accuracy who it is.

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