Jodha Akbar 85: A jaundiced view

Folks,

This one is going to be -now don't start laughing already! - really short. It is more of a venting of exasperation than an analysis.

Let me therefore just put it down as a series of questions, and you can then amuse yourselves thinking up the answers. That is to say, after about 98% of you have recovered from the roseate haze induced by the boat ride, which should be by tomorrow morning. 😉 The PMs can thus wait till then.

Q1) It is all very nice to educate the viewers in the complexities of Mughal-Rajput animosities, and I was duly moved by the noble sentiments in the invitation sent by the Rajmata of Amer to Maharani Jaiwantibai of Mewar. But apart from the fact that the Rajvanshis shown confabulating with Kunwar (not Rana) Pratap looked like a bunch of extras from a gangster film togged out in royal attire, there was another major problem with this segment

What about the invitation to Pratap's estranged father, the Maharana of Mewar, Udai Singh? It was to him, as the head of the Sisodias of Mewar, that the invitation would have been addressed, not to Pratap, who was not even the Yuvraj. It would have been unthinkable in terms of royal protocol.

The CVs seem to have forgotten all about Maharana Udai Singh, but when Akbar laid siege to Chttor in 1568, it was still Maharana Udai Singh who was on the throne. He moved to Udaipur, which he founded as his new capital, and left Jaimal and Patta to defend Chittor. Chittor fell after a prolonged siege, enraging Akbar so much that he had all the defenders killed and their heads stuck on the battlements, as per the charming custom of those days, whether it was Henry VIII sticking Sir Thomas More's head on the Tower of London, orAkbar doing the same with these Rajput heads at Chittor.

Udai Singh also stood firm against the Afghans first and then the Mughals, so this premature emphasis on Kunwar Pratap seems odd, to say the least.

Q2) Why is it that Jodha is not even thinking of throwing out any of the Kabul ke zevarat ? Should they not remind her of the Devi Maa's jewellery the Mughal raiders looted from the temple? 😉

Not only does she not do that, but she does not burn the Dhaka mulmul either, inconsistent wench that she is. In fact, she seems quite in ecstasies over her Ammijaan's largesse for Sukanya.

Q3) Why the Shahenshah's chief minister is shown to be such an incompetent that, with a large military contingent at hand, he suggests that his emperor go for a boat ride on a lake in hostile territory, a sitting duck for any attacker, without first securing the perimeter of the lake? In his place, having handled such visits as an Ambassador, even if it was not in hostile territory, that is the first thing I would have done.

Q4) How many times is Jalal to cut his hand - not to speak of worse - in order to promote his shaky romance with the Amer ki Mirchi? At this rate, he will fade away from sheer blood loss😉. This is the third time, and it is getting to be so hackneyed. Can't they think of something a bit more intelligent for a change? How the devil did he cut it this time anyway? His hand was quite saaboot when he got into the boat.

It is a good thing for him that the water must have been pure in those days. If it was today, he would die of chemical poisoning, possibly from mercury,as in the Minamoto affair in Japan.

Q5) What was it with the pathetic standards of marksmanship among the tribal warriors? The arrows fell in showers, reminding one of the Yuddha Kanda in the Ramayana, and if they had been even halfway proficient, our nascent lovers should both have been reduced to pincushions. At this rate, the tribals must be starving in the jungle!😉

Q6) How on earth does Jalal propose to save our Amer ki Mirchi? At the moment, she seemed to be in front and more exposed, for all his bravado of letting nothing happen to her. The only option would be for him to dive under the boat with her, and use the inverted boat as a shield.But then her regalia, when wet, would be heavy enough to sink them both.😉 There was no precap, so one could not make out what happen.

The whole boat ride scene was contrived in the extreme, farce with a capital F. Not that I think anyone cares!God knows how much more of this corny stuff is going to be unloaded on us in Amer. After a while, even Jalal's mischievous, dancing eyes will begin to pall; one can have too much of a good thing, especially when the object of all his badinage and flirtatiousness continues to look as if she has been attacked by a swarm of bees!

What had me in splits was the idea of Mahaam Anga singing a lori.😉

Don't mind me, folks, I am already out of sorts, seeing all my fears, voiced in my last 2 posts,about the likely graph of the Jalal-Jodha love story apparently coming true. Carry on with the joyfest over the Akdha/Parijat prem katha. I am sure Jalal will cut another limb tomorrow, and Jodha will be stabbed by the assassin the day after. Phir kya, yeh prem katha toh chalegi nahin, daudegi!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

I see everyone rejoicing over today's episode, but I feel like something is missing. I'm trying to watch with a sense of "just watch and enjoy what's shown" but it's difficult.

aunty if you go through the forum u will see i m facing sever bashing from my humble friends ... since epi on aired..on same Qs

whether issue of udhai singh ... un necessary importance on MP n his greatness when he was nothing not even crown prince... foollish behavior of jodha or haram khor useless mughal army..

.at this point when uS is raja of mevar

Mp ki koi hasiyat hi nahi hae jalal k saamne...

Originally posted by: preet_pal320

I see everyone rejoicing over today's episode, but I feel like something is missing. I'm trying to watch with a sense of "just watch and enjoy what's shown" but it's difficult.

Something definitely went wrong after the tiger attack. The storyline was moving smoothly and gradually, and all of a sudden it's in shaky territory. From the attack to the wedding to this random boat ride to this new attack, the transitions seem so forced and jumpy.

I'm all for JA scenes, I love watching them, but they have to make sense to me too. Right now, the CVs are shooting arrows all over the place, and just like the warriors in today's episode, they're unable to hit the mark, at least for me.

Thank you for your thoughts Aunty! I hope the CVs redeem themselves this week.

i do somewhat agree with u, i too felt something was missing in today's episode, but after watching it again and again i quite liked it, i liked their scenes together, rajat's expressions, but all in all as u said the connectivity was missing, not in today's episode, but in jodha's behavior..after the tiger attack she seemed to be melting..but that was again contradicted in the very next episode..the nursing scene went missing after showing such a brilliant promo on nursing jallu's wounds..if the cvz would have shown what was shown in that promo and then showed gradual change in their behavior, it would have made more sense..i guess they just want to cash on the nok jhonk part and not jump into the love/passion part as yet..keeping all that in mind i would want the cvz to be careful about how they present the flow and connectitvity of the show..these type of bloopers happen when the ph is engaged in various projects, now ek knows that she has got some loyal audience she will try and keep her best team for the new projects that she is going to launch..i think when there is a change in creative teams one is bound to experience the haphazard flow of scenes and storyline...all i can say is that the ph should not take this show for granted and shud focus on its quality of work..the only saving grace is the actors of this show that r doing their best, and for their sake and as long as the story is engaging i will keep watching the show.

now coming to the post, i think u have valid points there..as i have mentioned before that this is a fiction show with tinge of facts from history, and ekta might be hard working but for sure she is NOT a perfectionist..she is all there to make money jaise bhi..jo chalta hai wo dikhati hai, therefore no point in finding logic in what she does!

I did not expect your post today but was happy to read it anyway. I did enjoy the boat ride a lot but at same time I felt like this amer track seemed so fast. I feel after the tiger attackt heyshould ahve some meaningful conversation with Jodha nursing his wounds because she feels guilty about it and it's her duty too. And from then onwards, we should have start seeing some civil conversation with little nok-jhok between them and then have amer track. Hopefully, When Jodha notices or maybe her relatives would make her notice that Jalal is not on apka guroor todna jate hai mode. I have answered ur questions in red below.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Q1) It is all very nice to educate the viewers in the complexities of Mughal-Rajput animosities, and I was duly moved by the noble sentiments in the invitation sent by the Rajmata of Amer to Maharani Jaiwantibai of Mewar. But apart from the fact that the Rajvanshis shown confabulating with Kunwar (not Rana) Pratap looked like a bunch of extras from a gangster film togged out in royal attire, there was another major problem with this segment

What about the invitation to Pratap's estranged father, the Maharana of Mewar, Udai Singh? It was to him, as the head of the Sisodias of Mewar, that the invitation would have been addressed, not to Pratap, who was not even the Yuvraj. It would have been unthinkable in terms of royal protocol.

The CVs seem to have forgotten all about Maharana Udai Singh, but when Akbar laid siege to Chttor in 1568, it was still Maharana Udai Singh who was on the throne. He moved to Udaipur, which he founded as his new capital, and left Jaimal and Patta to defend Chittor. Chittor fell after a prolonged siege, enraging Akbar so much that he had all the defenders killed and their heads stuck on the battlements, as per the charming custom of those days, whether it was Henry VIII sticking Sir Thomas More's head on the Tower of London, orAkbar doing the same with these Rajput heads at Chittor.

Udai Singh also stood firm against the Afghans first and then the Mughals, so this premature emphasis on Kunwar Pratap seems odd, to say the least.- CVS does not have logic , chrnology and history in order because somehow they want to force the MP-JALAL angle in here.

Q2) Why is it that Jodha is not even thinking of throwing out any of the Kabul ke zevarat ? Should they not remind her of the Devi Maa's jewellery the Mughal raiders looted from the temple? 😉

Not only does she not do that, but she does not burn the Dhaka mulmul either, inconsistent wench that she is. In fact, she seems quite in ecstasies over her Ammijaan's largesse for Sukanya.

I think it's because She is Mughal's begum and more than that her pyaari ammijaan and jiji anga have arranged all these for her sister (although Jalal was the one who suggested it but obviously she will ignore that).
Q3) Why the Shahenshah's chief minister is shown to be such an incompetent that, with a large military contingent at hand, he suggests that his emperor go for a boat ride on a lake in hostile territory, a sitting duck for any attacker, without first securing the perimeter of the lake? In his place, having handled such visits as an Ambassador, even if it was not in hostile territory, that is the first thing I would have done.- We will probably know more about that tomorrow.

Q4) How many times is Jalal to cut his hand - not to speak of worse - in order to promote his shaky romance with the Amer ki Mirchi? At this rate, he will fade away from sheer blood loss😉. This is the third time, and it is getting to be so hackneyed. Can't they think of something a bit more intelligent for a change? How the devil did he cut it this time anyway? His hand was quite saaboot when he got into the boat.From Jalal's expressions, it seemed like even Jalal does not know how he got the cut.

It is a good thing for him that the water must have been pure in those days. If it was today, he would die of chemical poisoning, possibly from mercury,as in the Minamoto affair in Japan. I was thinking same thing

Q5) What was it with the pathetic standards of marksmanship among the tribal warriors? The arrows fell in showers, reminding one of the Yuddha Kanda in the Ramayana, and if they had been even halfway proficient, our nascent lovers should both have been reduced to pincushions. At this rate, the tribals must be starving in the jungle!😉- I was thinking why do they need so many arrows to be shot for one bot man or sailor

Q6) How on earth does Jalal propose to save our Amer ki Mirchi? At the moment, she seemed to be in front and more exposed, for all his bravado of letting nothing happen to her. The only option would be for him to dive under the boat with her, and use the inverted boat as a shield.But then her regalia, when wet, would be heavy enough to sink them both.😉 There was no precap, so one could not make out what happen.That's what I was wondering too. I don't know may be stop arrows with his shamsheer.I have no idea. Let's wait until tom. that's y probably they did not show the precap because they want us to keep thinking

Originally posted by: preet_pal320

I see everyone rejoicing over today's episode, but I feel like something is missing. I'm trying to watch with a sense of "just watch and enjoy what's shown" but it's difficult.

Something definitely went wrong after the tiger attack. The storyline was moving smoothly and gradually, and all of a sudden it's in shaky territory. From the attack to the wedding to this random boat ride to this new attack, the transitions seem so forced and jumpy.

Wow exactly what I feel...after the wonderful episode where Jodha moved heaven and Earth to save him..WTH has happened...except for 1 or 2 scenes, it's all been pretty much standard fare...discontinuity and half-heartedly directed romance is all that I've garnered from the last 2-3 episodes...somehow, everyone else is pretty happy with it though 😕...romance alone cannot support a serial - it needs proper tracks...with proper tracks, even dashes of romance will look good...however, if there is no proper direction, then bring in all the romance after a while and its just going to look soppy..

For how long are they going to show Jodha behaving like an adamant 4 year old to cover up for her feelings, while Jalal forgives her with a smirk

For how many times are they going to show Jodha tripping and Jalal catching her with a teasing grin...they need to move on...

I'm all for JA scenes, I love watching them, but they have to make sense to me too. Right now, the CVs are shooting arrows all over the place, and just like the warriors in today's episode, they're unable to hit the mark, at least for me.

very very true in my case...

Very very well said...

Thank you for your thoughts Aunty! I hope the CVs redeem themselves this week.

Great post with an apt title...A jaundiced view 👏
" True love comes around once and you have to hold out until then ~ I have been waiting, I have been searching, I am a man under the moon~~"

Hi Shyamala,
Ur post dittoed Just my thought on the abnormal frequency of Jalaal bruising this part or that And Jodha dear Tripping and Slipping again and again!!!!!😆 I wrote to MKM that it appears that both are Hell-bent on getting each others Attention at any cost ...And above all , since these two seems to get soft on each other only in Dire Situations(As Meghna stated), Ms. EK is fast succeeding in turning All of US into Sadists, who gets excited and overjoyed each time one cuts ,gets wounded or trips...🤣

Regards,
Kamal

Looks like you are tired of writing about Jodha the brat! Ekta is completely ruining it, no lady in those times would have been like Jodha. I dont know what she is trying to prove by showing Jodha so low. If she thinks this is what braveness means, she needs to think again!

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi Shyamala,
Ur post dittoed Just my thought on the abnormal frequency of Jalaal bruising this part or that And Jodha dear Tripping and Slipping again and again!!!!!😆 I wrote to MKM that it appears that both are Hell-bent on getting each others Attention at any cost ...And above all , since these two seems to get soft on each other only in Dire Situations(As Meghna stated), Ms. EK is fast succeeding in turning All of US into Sadists, who gets excited and overjoyed each time one cuts ,gets wounded or trips...🤣

Regards,
Kamal

😆..i know we r becoming whole bunch of sadists here who get excited over cut wounds and nursing promos..i hope this show does not become an emergency department where we see doctors and nurses running around!