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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
@Alakh: yes yes, this is all fiction , it's too obvious to state 😛.
I am only talking about the fictionalised Jalal because the real one would've picked up his shamsheer & kalmofied anyone if they even dared to raise their voice at his Ammi Jaan!! 😊


Edited by Mallika-E-Bhais - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: sun29



ruqaiyya has never taken that effort...atleast in this show...she is way too self absorbed...she seemed content with being Harem ka jailor and Mallika e Khaas...she does not bother about anyone else or anything unless it threatens her position in the sultanant and jala's life...

and since jalal never had any relationship with his mother ,ruqaiyya did not find it necessary to be pally with her ...and she hates the position MA has in his life coz it threatens her own position ...

Yes, Ruq could also have taken the trouble to get to know her saas better, instead of dismissing her as not so relevant to Jalal and her "audha-seeking"!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi very interesting take 👏👏

I feel there r few reasons why Hamida has this blind faith on Jodha ..

First she does feel Rajputs r lucky mascot types because a Rajput only gave her shelter in times of crisis because of which they hv survived that time and also since the time Jodha came in Jalal's life , there has been a positive change in Jalal's decision making ... So Hamida feels Rajputs r more like shubh shagun for her and since Jodha is a rajput , so those extra emotions for her as she has blind faither that Rajputs will always remain loyal and can never go wrong or harm anyone ..

Second Hamida feels because Jodha is totally opposite in nature , so she can bring out a positive change in Jalal and make him realise he has a heart too ... All his other begums r more like his ghulam who will do whatever Jalal will order to please him including Ruqaiyya but Jodha does not fall in that category and so Hamida hopes she can transform her heartless son ...

Third Hamida believes only if Jalal starts loving one of his begum , he can become a father because without love ,. even God wont give any child to Jalal and in this case Hamida feels Jodha is the perfect candidate with whom Jalal can fall in love since she will not b one of those ghulam like begums of Jalal who will sit quietly in harem waiting for shehenshah but she will instead make the shehenshah wait for her approval which will eventually make the difference in Jalal's way of thinking about women 😉..So in short Hamida again expects Jodha only can give waaris to this family in the end ...


Fourth Hamida also expects Jodha to get Jalal out of Maham's clurches and bring him close to her real mother ... I know Hamida never verbally expressed her displeasure over how Jalal is more close to Maham than her but on many occasions she did tell Jodha that Jalal is like this because he was brought up by Maham unfortunately ... So Hamida indirectly hinted her displeasure over this and mayb she hopes that Jalal can bring mother-son close and get this Maham away from Jalal ka life since Maham has been a negative influence in Jalal's life in terms of his thought process 🤔...

I guess these r the reasons why Hamida has such blind faith on Jodha because right from start Hamida saw that Jodha never faked anything .. she is quite truthful about her feelings and she is only one in harem who has courage to actually speak about the negatives of Jalal and one who is well aware about a person's negatives can very well make that person realise about his negatives too ... So Hamida expects Jodha to trasform Jalal into a man with a heart 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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also one reason i can think of is .dat hamida knows that jodha is very different from all the other begums ...neither is she interested in harem politics nor in gaining the superior postion in harem...all these things dont matter to her ...even when rukiya 's pregnancy news came ..many of the begums were burning with jealosy..on the other hand jodha was soo happy on hearing the news..she never wishes or thinks ill of others ..its mostly her nature dat sets her apart the other begums nd that can a very important reason y she is hamida's favourite
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Alakh, I have just realised that you are a Jalalopaedia ... in addition to being a Mohanopaedia! 😃
Wow, you've really got stores of info! Hats off!👏👏👏


😆 Oh you flatter me.

I'm actually missing imp info.. 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

@Alakh: yes yes, this is all fiction , it's too obvious to state 😛.

I am only talking about the fictionalised Jalal because the real one would've picked up his shamsheer & kalmofied anyone if they even dared to raise their voice at his Ammi Jaan!! 😊



In real life, Jodha would have been shrewd and cunning to rise as akbar's fav😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Of course he does!! And Jalal has chosen Jodha as the woman who gives him that Care! Why do you think he wants her to make food for him? Feed him? Sing songs for him? Why does he look so hurt & a little lost, whenever Ruqaiyya viciously draws home the point that "Jodha toh Aapko bhi nahin chahti Jalal,balki woh toh Aapse nafrat karti hain !".. It hurts him right in his chest though he doesn't realise it, and gets all Mughaliya in his anger towards Jodha, but Maham Anga & Ruqaiyya; do.. It isn't only to humiliate her, that is , in part. But the larger reason is that somewhere within him, he knows what stuff Jodha is made of. He knows how compassionate, caring & loving she is besides all her feisty qualities. And he wants her to Care for him.

Ruqaiyya is his best friend, the woman he spars with & has been brought up with, Jodha is his (future) Beloved. And he behaves in markedly different ways with both! 😳

Its still early days to draw parallels between Jalal's and Hameeda's obsession over Jodha..
The truth is that Jalal's obsession over Jodha (as depicted in the serial) was more to tame her. He was a man who loved challenges and she was his biggest challenge. Him making her cook, sing and all those other things was to test her patience to see how she'd react and him deriving pleasure out of those reactions.
Through the course of time he mellowed no doubt ..but the reason he got married to her was not because he knew she'd care...he was attracted no doubt but he was primarily driven by the need to possess!
Hameeda's attraction is a whole different thing - with a more positive twist in it! But as Alakh says, beyond the ken of my understanding too...🤔

Its true that after this point Jalal knows she cares..his instincts have now been confirmed, but only in two incidents has he been 'moved' by her -her poetry and those things she said outside the temple...till then, there's not been a single instance where he's been privy to her caring side...it was all driven by lust, passion, rage, obsession etc...😊 (thankfully, Hameeda's obsessiveness over Jodha was not driven by all those!😆)


Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


You know.. they are making all this up for the show. she didn't leave him behind.. it was for his own safety.. she was a kid herself then.. she faced many hardships.. running here and there.. and it was hindal mirza who save his life and list his life later..

Jalal blaming and not forgiving doesn't make sense... Actually.. in reality. jalal loved and respected his mother a lot.. even more than maham anga.

That is also proved by the fact that when he thought he was dying he took only Hamida's name but not Maham's name!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


You know.. they are making all this up for the show. she didn't leave him behind.. it was for his own safety.. she was a kid herself then.. she faced many hardships.. running here and there.. and it was hindal mirza who save his life and list his life later..

Jalal blaming and not forgiving doesn't make sense... Actually.. in reality. jalal loved and respected his mother a lot.. even more than maham anga.

That AND the movie...even in the movie, HR's character doesn't show much love to HB...he doesn't disrespect her, but she's not his favourite 'mummy'!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Alakh: Exactly!!! 😉 All the Emperor's favourites HAD to be shrewd & cunning!!! Even this show, shows glimpses of Jodha's benign cunning albeit of a non-materialized variety.
Edited by Mallika-E-Bhais - 11 years ago

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