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Posted: 11 years ago
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i have some doubts plz clear my doubts.this is a request to all forum members
1.i read some article that akbar married barmal elder daughter and after marriage they changed her religion and named her marium zamani.

but in serial rukku said to call her marium zamani when she get pregnant.this means who'll give the first child will become marium zamani.so jodha gave first child.

Even i seen a old movie 'salim anarkali"(in my mother tongue "telugu").In this movie starting scene is akbar comes to jodha to see his new born baby boy salim.akbar says that jodha blessed his family by giving him a son(means first child as varas).In that room they'll show krishna's idol also.that means jodha havent changed her religion.becoz she has given birth to first child she is referred as marium zamani by all.(my guess)

this movie came 40yrs back.they use to refer all books before doing any historical movie in those days.means is she really jodha bai?

2.I have seen pictures of jodha,hamida banu,muntaj,noor jahan(i want to post but dont know how to).Dressing of hamida banu,noor jahan,muntaj are similar but Jodha's dressing is different from them.she is dressed like Rajput only(like serial attire).If she changed her relegion means y she'll be in different attire from them.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post even i want to know regarding dressing i too noticed jodah paintings she is weraing rajistani clothes like serial
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1. the Mughal Empress who gives birth of first son (waris) is titied as Mariam-Uz-Zamani...Jodha was called Mariam-Uz-Zamani coz Jahangir (Salim) was the next emperor after Akbar. And Jodha was his biological mother. There were other sons of Akbar too. It is because Jahangir became the emperor, so his mother got the title. It is not always the first son but the son who carries out the glory of Mughals. Like Hameeda Banu had the title of Mariam Makkani coz she was the mother of Akbar who carried out the Mughal salsalat.

2. Jodha didn't change her religion. She remained Lord Krishna devotee till her last breath. But her children were raised as Muslims like their father Akbar.
3. Mariam-Uz-Zamani is the title only.
I hope these points have cleared your doubts😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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agree wid tamy...its a title.

n i suppose it must hav been givn later wen her son (salim/jehangir) ascended but not sure...but he was heir apparent altho he fell out of akbar's favor n many courtiers favored salims son khusro,,while akbars favorite was khurram(shahjehan)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

1. the Mughal Empress who gives birth of first son (waris) is titied as Mariam-Uz-Zamani...Jodha was called Mariam-Uz-Zamani coz Jahangir (Salim) was the next emperor after Akbar. And Jodha was his biological mother. There were other sons of Akbar too. It is because Jahangir became the emperor, so his mother got the title. It is not always the first son but the son who carries out the glory of Mughals. Like Hameeda Banu had the title of Mariam Makkani coz she was the mother of Akbar who carried out the Mughal salsalat.

2. Jodha didn't change her religion. She remained Lord Krishna devotee till her last breath. But her children were raised as Muslims like their father Akbar.
3. Mariam-Uz-Zamani is the title only.
I hope these points have cleared your doubts😊

thanku ya my doubts cleared
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Posted: 11 years ago
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agree wid tamy...its a title.

n i suppose it must hav been givn later wen her son (salim/jehangir) ascended but not sure...but he was heir apparent altho he fell out of akbar's favor n many courtiers favored salims son khusro,,while akbars favorite was khurram(shahjehan)


The other two sons were not of royal blood.. they were sons of concubines.. They couldn't have claimed the throne.. only salim and his kids had claim on the throne...

Prince Salim was the only son he had from his queen... hence the title..
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


The other two sons were not of royal blood.. they were sons of concubines.. They couldn't have claimed the throne.. only salim and his kids had claim on the throne...

Prince Salim was the only son he had from his queen... hence the title..

yeah true...only sons who were borne from queens can claim the throne.
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Originally posted by: meghaarshi01

thanku ya my doubts cleared

Mariam-Uz-Zamani means Mother of the Heir
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


The other two sons were not of royal blood.. they were sons of concubines.. They couldn't have claimed the throne.. only salim and his kids had claim on the throne...

Prince Salim was the only son he had from his queen... hence the title..



hmmm..
but murad was salima's son so royal enough (in fact wid moghul blood frm both sides)...but salima had a soft corner fr salim n always wanted him to succeed..noble lady indeed!
daniyal ka pata nahin (some evn say dat he was anarkali's n akbar's son)

but yess...salim was older to murad by an year n nyways murad died in 1599 while akbar died in 1605 n so salim was only living n legit son at dat tym.


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hmmm..
but murad was salima's son so royal enough (in fact wid moghul blood frm both sides)...but salima had a soft corner fr salim n always wanted him to succeed..noble lady indeed!
daniyal ka pata nahin (some evn say dat he was anarkali's n akbar's son)

but yess...salim was older to murad by an year n nyways murad died in 1599 while akbar died in 1605 n so salim was only living n legit son at dat tym.


like u said its coz Salim was older to him and thus he was the next king...if it was Murad, Salima would have been Mariam-Uz-Zamani not Jodha😊
@red really ??😲 how is it possible ?? he hated Anarkali..she was Salim's love na ?😲

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