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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267


like u said its coz Salim was older to him and thus he was the next king...if it was Murad, Salima would have been Mariam-Uz-Zamani not Jodha😊
@red really ??😲how is it possible ?? he hated Anarkali..she was Salim's love na ?😲





Only Akbar and Anarkali knows the truth why wadte our time digging the graveyard just enjoy Ektaas History class.
Unfortunately Indian history is so obscure and lacks so many details that it is not even funny
Apart from our independence struggle details I personally do feel that we did not do good job of keeping our records straight
True but sad.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: meghaarshi01

i have some doubts plz clear my doubts.this is a request to all forum members
1.i read some article that akbar married barmal elder daughter and after marriage they changed her religion and named her marium zamani.

but in serial rukku said to call her marium zamani when she get pregnant.this means who'll give the first child will become marium zamani.so jodha gave first child.

Even i seen a old movie 'salim anarkali"(in my mother tongue "telugu").In this movie starting scene is akbar comes to jodha to see his new born baby boy salim.akbar says that jodha blessed his family by giving him a son(means first child as varas).In that room they'll show krishna's idol also.that means jodha havent changed her religion.becoz she has given birth to first child she is referred as marium zamani by all.(my guess)

this movie came 40yrs back.they use to refer all books before doing any historical movie in those days.means is she really jodha bai?

2.I have seen pictures of jodha,hamida banu,muntaj,noor jahan(i want to post but dont know how to).Dressing of hamida banu,noor jahan,muntaj are similar but Jodha's dressing is different from them.she is dressed like Rajput only(like serial attire).If she changed her relegion means y she'll be in different attire from them.


😊Thanks for sharing
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

1. the Mughal Empress who gives birth of first son (waris) is titied as Mariam-Uz-Zamani...Jodha was called Mariam-Uz-Zamani coz Jahangir (Salim) was the next emperor after Akbar. And Jodha was his biological mother. There were other sons of Akbar too. It is because Jahangir became the emperor, so his mother got the title. It is not always the first son but the son who carries out the glory of Mughals. Like Hameeda Banu had the title of Mariam Makkani coz she was the mother of Akbar who carried out the Mughal salsalat.

2. Jodha didn't change her religion. She remained Lord Krishna devotee till her last breath. But her children were raised as Muslims like their father Akbar.
3. Mariam-Uz-Zamani is the title only.
I hope these points have cleared your doubts😊


tammy smart ban gayi hai yaar 😳😳😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

1. the Mughal Empress who gives birth of first son (waris) is titied as Mariam-Uz-Zamani...Jodha was called Mariam-Uz-Zamani coz Jahangir (Salim) was the next emperor after Akbar. And Jodha was his biological mother. There were other sons of Akbar too. It is because Jahangir became the emperor, so his mother got the title. It is not always the first son but the son who carries out the glory of Mughals. Like Hameeda Banu had the title of Mariam Makkani coz she was the mother of Akbar who carried out the Mughal salsalat.

2. Jodha didn't change her religion. She remained Lord Krishna devotee till her last breath. But her children were raised as Muslims like their father Akbar.


3. Mariam-Uz-Zamani is the title only.
I hope these points have cleared your doubts😊


According to mohammaden Law you cannot have Nikaah between a muslim and a Hindu. So she must have changed her religion to have nikaah. If she did not had that Nikaah with Akbar then she wouldn't have considered his legal wife according to Muslim law. After that may have remained Lord Krishna devotee even though she changed her religion.
Edited by jyot_puja - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: teletubby


hmmm..
but murad was salima's son so royal enough (in fact wid moghul blood frm both sides)...but salima had a soft corner fr salim n always wanted him to succeed..noble lady indeed!
daniyal ka pata nahin (some evn say dat he was anarkali's n akbar's son)

but yess...salim was older to murad by an year n nyways murad died in 1599 while akbar died in 1605 n so salim was only living n legit son at dat tym.



Murad was not Salima's son.. I know there are many websites stating this.. but I wen through akbarnama and ain-i akbari.. Murad was son of a concubine
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyot_puja


According to mohammaden Law you cannot have Nikaah between a muslim and a Hindu. So she must have changed her religion to have nikaah. If she did not had that Nikaah with Akbar then she wouldn't have considered his legal wife according to Muslim law. After that may have remained Lord Krishna devotee even though she changed her religion.


True, but she practiced hinduism.. Conversion means repeating a few lines 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyot_puja


According to mohammaden Law you cannot have Nikaah between a muslim and a Hindu. So she must have changed her religion to have nikaah. If she did not had that Nikaah with Akbar then she wouldn't have considered his legal wife according to Muslim law. After that may have remained Lord Krishna devotee even though she changed her religion.

yeah I agree...Muslim can only marry another Muslim...or else the person should be converted to Muslim...but nothing sort of that happened then..Jodha and Akbar's marriage was kind of a business deal...and Jodha refused to change her religion and put forward the condition of carrying Krishna's idol to Agra and having a "mandir" inside the mahal...she didn't change her religion.
btw they married in both Muslim and Hindu culture...Jodha never wanted to marry him...she used to hate him let alone changing the religion...Akbar didn't bother..he was adamant to adorn her in his harem as she was the most beautiful princess at that time.
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonilausarun


tammy smart ban gayi hai yaar 😳😳😃

research kiya hai😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Murad was not Salima's son.. I know there are many websites stating this.. but I wen through akbarnama and ain-i akbari.. Murad was son of a concubine

thanks for sharing😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

yeah I agree...Muslim can only marry another Muslim...or else the person should be converted to Muslim...but nothing sort of that happened then..Jodha and Akbar's marriage was kind of a business deal...and Jodha refused to change her religion and put forward the condition of carrying Krishna's idol to Agra and having a "mandir" inside the mahal...she didn't change her religion.
btw they married in both Muslim and Hindu culture...Jodha never wanted to marry him...she used to hate him let alone changing the religion...Akbar didn't bother..he was adamant to adorn her in his harem as she was the most beautiful princess at that time.


means wt they r showed in film jodhaakbar is true.after reading ur reply i asked my mother abt this.she said ya akbar married hindu princess but changing her religion before marriage was not said any where.she is lord krishnas devoti.but he married many hindu princess that to who were most beautyful to enlarge his mugal dynasty over india

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