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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bamonforever

Bittu , that's exactly why I wrote that line, to remind you n remind myself of old gold IPK days n Sarun. 😳

Bf, I guess you are not aware of it.. They are making a new show with different cast and named it IPKKND😭 Can you imagine?? IPK without sarun😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nicely written!

I think both of them were confused as to what reasons the other had to marry, and what would happen afterwards.

Jodha married to save Amer thinking Jalal wouldn't bother her, live a life where her husband cares nothing for her but Amer is safe.

Jalal married her thinking to cage her and take away her freedom, but in reality he is attracted to her. He had not assumed that Jodha did not want him anywhere near her, that she would rather bow down then let him near her.

It will be interesting to see how their interactions with each other will continue. Jodha hating Jalal and thinking that all he wants is revenge and to make her life a living hell. Jalal trying hard to hate Jodha but instead being drawn to her. He just may find reasons to get angry at her just so he can come near her.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Bittu , what r u saying ? 😕 This can't be true. NOPE !
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehvy12

Nicely written!


I think both of them were confused as to what reasons the other had to marry, and what would happen afterwards.

Jodha married to save Amer thinking Jalal wouldn't bother her, live a life where her husband cares nothing for her but Amer is safe.

Jalal married her thinking to cage her and take away her freedom, but in reality he is attracted to her. He had not assumed that Jodha did not want him anywhere near her, that she would rather bow down then let him near her.

It will be interesting to see how their interactions with each other will continue. Jodha hating Jalal and thinking that all he wants is revenge and to make her life a living hell. Jalal trying hard to hate Jodha but instead being drawn to her. He just may find reasons to get angry at her just so he can come near her.

@ Red Jalal always knew that Jodha hated him..But he found it hard to accept it. He wanted to have a upper hand over her and hence the deal.
Yes, it will be really interesting to see their further conversations👍🏼
Ps:@ underline: No confusion, great combination😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mehvy12

Nicely written!


I think both of them were confused as to what reasons the other had to marry, and what would happen afterwards.

Jodha married to save Amer thinking Jalal wouldn't bother her, live a life where her husband cares nothing for her but Amer is safe.

Jalal married her thinking to cage her and take away her freedom, but in reality he is attracted to her. He had not assumed that Jodha did not want him anywhere near her, that she would rather bow down then let him near her.

It will be interesting to see how their interactions with each other will continue. Jodha hating Jalal and thinking that all he wants is revenge and to make her life a living hell. Jalal trying hard to hate Jodha but instead being drawn to her. He just may find reasons to get angry at her just so he can come near her.

Jalal n Jodha both are going through some sort of emotional turbulence trying to measure water , n figure out their marriage. Each is a mystery to the other. Both of them are finding difficulty n second thinking their previous ideas about each other, which is exactly what Moti Bai made Jodha do today. 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bamonforever

The beauty of Jodha Akbar is that it's such a big elephant of a show that it could put us to the place of some blind people trying to get the gist of it n may be none getting to the whole picture , though my Shyamala di n Manshi di n Jyoti di always go absolutely close to it I must admit in all awe.

Which sadly leaves not much for me to add , except a few points-

First of all I humbly disagree with the general interpretation in the forum of Jodha's emotional break down after Jalal the frustrated storm blew over her. I've found the reason to be quite different . I do not think that Jodha ever thought that Jalal cares for her in any way, but today she was at the receiving end of a hatred storm ( though I sincerely doubt the hatred part just like wise MA ) , n being a girl brought up in an overdose of love n care , that's supposed to rattle her , isn't it ? She isn't used to some one hating her so strongly n violently.

Let's go back in time a bit n consider the marriage from Jodha's POV. Jalal was so convincing in his profuse n very eloquent n intelligent excuse ( excuse none the less as he himself confirmed that night ) as to why he Must marry the Amer princess 😉😆 that he even managed to convince Jodha that the marriage is nothing more or less than an important political contract with both parties reaping the benefit n considered herself merely a pawn in the game n never the queen to be check mated. Didn't she know that Jalal will bear a certain grudge against her for that insult back at Amer in the Abdul rescue mission ? Yes ! But she didn't think that Jalal'll consider the episode important enough to actually marry her for revenge ! What she didn't know is that Jalal after taking an immediate fancy for her at the first glance was then forced to resent her deeply n the wound such emotional beating leaves is often very deep n not easily healed .

Her dialog , " I'd thought I'm a sacrifice for Amer n that gave me the strength to live the rest of my life in any way " shows that she indeed thought that she isn't some one important in the marriage, which means she's safe in a way. She believed that Jalal hates her but passively n he's not going to act actively on that hatred.

Her lack of interest caught our eyes even more starkly because of Jalal's obsession with her n him always looking at her direction for some signs of emotion or just any reaction.For all I can see , Jodha must have been totally oblivious that her husband , or Ruqaiya had been so keenly noticing her lack of interest in her husband. I bet no body in the court found any thing amiss in her behavior, n must've taken her disinterest n repulsion as signs of shyness n even became impressed by it.

We must not forget that Jodha HAD NOT had any idea till yesterday that she means any thing more than one more addition to the harem to Jalal. She was content with it n was preparing to live life making best of the situation. She was like, " Here , I've got a room n a few maids n basic needs for life fulfilled with a minimum allowance. I can practice my religion n I've been allowed my little temple. I hate my husband n he feels nothing for me. So, he'll leave me alone to live my life n that's goes perfectly with my plan. Only problem, he's gonna ask for conjugal rights . Sigh ! I'll deter him from having it by my eloquent n never failing-till-date lectures. So, now my life is set. No hope for happiness but hope for peace. I'm a martyr after all ! "

But with Jalal's insistence to make her sing in the court on the very 1st night of marriage made her to rethink it all that her husband may not wish to leave her alone after all. Then forcing her to sing in court ( very disgraceful for an emperor I must say n I couldn't agree more whole heartedly with Jodha for singing that song. Any ways, exactly what kind of song Jalal expected Jodha to sing ?? During those days Rajput princesses were not taught songs based on the glory of Mughals. Either it'd be a religious song, or being a Rajputani ,a song based on Rajput valor , dedicated to her fantasy crush PRC no doubt lolz !! ;). The dude was asking for a show down.) ,it made the fact quite obvious that Jalal may've some personal mission against her , or else why'd he put his own dignity at cost by doing such an outrageous thing ( in reality it wouldn't have ever happened any ways! ) ? That made her danger antenna go all crazy red n therefore the nightmare.

N after Jalal's clear vehement declaration of open war n confession of his motive behind this marriage, it shattered her hope for peace , for she knows very well that Jalal can make her life a living hell by publicly humiliating her n physically torturing her in the privacy of her quarters.

N what is this funny thinking going around that Jodha should be relieved after Jalal's declaration of not touching her ?? 🤓 Why forget that she doesn't trust a single word leaving the mouth of the guy 🥱 ?? Why should his words relief her, when he has chosen this extremely funny n absurd way of driving the point home by pinning her against the wall, pressing his body against her with all force, breathing down her neck n breaking her bangles before that !!! Goes really well with his dialogs following ! 🤓 As for the promise of saving her from public humiliation, really ??? Whom was he kidding ?? 🤪 When he did exactly the opposite that very day ?? I don't see any reason for Jodha to be relieved after coming to know that his hatred is not passive, as she hoped, but active n virulent ( word credit goes to Shyamala di ) hatred, when the person bearing such feeling is so powerful n you're so helpless against him. She realized that as she put it so beautifully herself , " I'm not even allowed to die ( peacefully ) , but my life'll be made hell by Jalal every damn moment." , that she's the target n not the pawn, she can't run or hide.

Those who are still reading can now declare their names so that I can award them for their patience ! 😉


agree with every point.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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aanchal_c, Thanks so much. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hello Gargi,

What an excellent analysis of the most mesmerizing and capturing episode of JA...
I too am a fan of shyamala auntu and ofcourse mansi ... they are the stalwarts of this show's analysis team... however after reading shyamala aunty post yesterday i felt there was something else that jodha felt ... but was not able to descrive it precisely and thus did not comment on the post ... however after reading your post i felt you completed what shyamala aunty had started ... there are two possible reasons for JO 's behaviour in yesterday's episode .. one ofcourse being the bubble burst about jala's face off and secondly her fear of being a target of irksome husband's disdain...

now i am at peace as the puzzle for me is solved for under both the circumstances .. Jo was bound to get disheveled ...

congrats for an excellent posts ...

and pls PM me in case u further write any posts .. hoping tht it would not be troublesome for you ...

cheers
Kashi
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bamonforever

Jalal n Jodha both are going through some sort of emotional turbulence trying to measure water , n figure out their marriage. Each is a mystery to the other. Both of them are finding difficulty n second thinking their previous ideas about each other, which is exactly what Moti Bai made Jodha do today. 😉


Very true. They are on an emotional roller coaster. I loved Moti Bai today.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arnav26

@Its just that I am not ready to accept that Jodha has to remain silent To be clear, she sang the song right, while singing she could have given some of those hatred looks towards Jalal. When Jalal said that he has right over her, she could have said You are using a woman to get your things done or something like you may claim me but not my love, You just own me, but you din win me.. sort of these dialogues.


Buddy , I sooo much want Jodha to answer back Jalal in that way as you said . But she can't do this , as her Amer could be in danger if Jalal gets too angry on her .
Besides she just want Jalal to leave her alone , in no way she wants to make him angry .
But , she should've at least shown him the cut in her hand given by him 😡
Even I'm waiting for the day Jodha will fire back to her hubby .

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