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Posted: 12 years ago
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Loved ur post Skanda but it was too short...Hope ur predictions prove true.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

agree with ur views as well but mansi did u notice his whole week friday precap was not interesting though... Imagine they left us with jodha dream thing, left hanging. 😆

Riyya, that's exactly what I mean when I say the creative are being very sharp with the precaps and promos not revealing much. See, let's for one moment assume that my prediction may be right ... if it is the case that jalal flops off to sleep in Jodha's bed, and nothing actually happens between them, then the Creatives won't simply show Jalal on Jodha''s bed as a precap, right? The fact that they have left it all hanging without a clue is the very suggestive thing for me!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

Loved ur post Skanda but it was too short...Hope ur predictions prove true.

Ela, spare me a thought. I had difficulty typing even this much. If I had to write more I may have twisted fingers! 😆😆😆😆Actually I have tried to pput all the key points that affected me. But I'd love to hear from others what I've missed out on!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Ela, spare me a thought. I had difficulty typing even this much. If I had to write more I may have twisted fingers! 😆😆😆😆Actually I have tried to pput all the key points that affected me. But I'd love to hear from others what I've missed out on!

Ok dear...You are spared😆 ...I definately dont want to get ur fingers hurt.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smiletherapy

Dear Mansi,


What a wonderful summary of events! I'm always amazed by your insights and especially the way you are able to connect things in your summaries.

And Sonya Blade I also often enjoy reading your counterpoints as well. You both often make me rethink my position.

This time around I find myself somewhere in between the both of you...

I think one more thing that comes into the equation, whichever side you fall onto re: Jalal loves her now or not, is Jalal's sense of justice and politics. Jalal is of course egotistical and wanting to dominate Jodha, but he also has (as Hameeda told Jodha) a lot of good qualities, as well, like that sense of justice and appreciation for sound reasoning as well--which does cut through his ego usually.

I feel like I'm parroting a lot of what Shyamala Aunty has said in her many wonderful posts, but I think the fact that in his mind his reasons for doing things make sense to him in terms of his inherent sense of justice (it's not fair that Jodha's family is lying to her) and keen sense of politics (he really wants the alliance to go through b/c expanding his empire with the Rajputs on his side is way smarter, easier and more effective than not ) means that he can keep denying his feelings about her to himself and the multiple personal motives that also exist behind his actions. The excuses he makes for forgiving her behavior help him to explain his actions (as not being ruled by his personal feelings) to MA and whoever else, but especially to himself. And for me, I think so long as that continues, I tend not to read as many of the scenes as him loving her or caring for her; but more in terms of his conquest of this new adversary (Jodha).

BUT WAIT--Having said that I would add, it's not always that way. It's definitely not just one or the other--which is what makes it so fun for me to watch. I do think the moments where he is unguarded and doesn't have to explain himself to anyone (esp. himself), are in fact moments where tenderness and care start to come to the surface--even perhaps unbeknownst to him. For me, some of those moments are when he does storm into her tent and we have that soft background music matching the sudden softness on his face. I also think those moments when Hameeda Begum greets Jodha for the first time--sure he's puffed up with pride about his mother's compliments to her--but he also seems quite surprised by Jodha's respect towards his mom (when she does the touching of the feet) and his own mom's affection towards her. Surprised and thus, caught off guard again his face is softened and I feel then he is feeling some unbidden tenderness towards Jodha. Also, he seems to really like catching her smiling--as when the ladies sing welcome to her and at the performance of the Jashn ceremony. Those I would put as more tender moments... I also incidentally loved his quizzical look when his mom says to Jodha "Aap to meri liye khaas hai" (or sthg like that--my urdu/hindi is terrible) expressing that for some reason Jodha is very special to her. I thought that was funny. And masterful acting by RT as well.)

In any case, I think because there is such good acting and writing, and the possibility for things to be happening on multiple levels (personal, political, etc.) that it does make for a lot of room for us to interpret as we like, and for sure why this is such a wonderful forum. In fact, this has been the only forum I have ever felt compelled to enter; many thanks to the show for that, but especially very interesting and insightful posters as you all.

Oh my God, what a wonderful reply you have written! I agree with you 100% that on the outside jalal gives lots of political justification for his decisions, but in the unguarded moments is when even I start seeing "love budding".
Here I must mention one thing ... I see this "love" as a six-level thing:
1. Jalal is not in love at all, he is only interested in justice, revenge etc etc etc
2. He is in love already, but he himself doesn't know it, so he does not know what name to give his feelings
3. He is in love, but in strong denial about it.
4. He is in love, accepts it, but is unready to do something about it yet ... he wants to know if she is also feeling it before committing his side.
5. He is in love and wants to act openly on his feelings, maybe is ready to start showing it. Maybe looking for her signs of change.
6. He is in love and wants her to know his feelings, being more or less sure of her feelings too.
On this scale of things, I think we are all debating whether jalal is at level 1 or level 2 ... but we are all agreed he is not at Level 3 at all. So when some of us are saying he may already be in love and others are saying he is not, we are all still talking only of the very very early signs, nowhere near the whole thing!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely analysis. Yours and Ma'am's posts are the greatest things about this forum. 😊 I would like to add one prediction. That is, if I know anything about Miss Kapoor, then Jalal is going to turn mildly negative from this point of time. I am so sure that I can give a hundred percent assurance of the fact. In order to bring out the awesomeness of Jodha, Jalal will become the unreasonable romantic hero figure. Dark and slightly violent. And I should be ashamed of myself as a feminist, but I am so excited for Jalal to turn into a bit of an anti-hero. 😆

Sorry about the typos. I type too fast and never recheck. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Stargirl06

Lovely analysis. Yours and Ma'am's posts are the greatest things about this forum. 😊 I would like to add one prediction. That is, fi I know anything about Miss Kapoor, then Jalal is going to turn mildly negative from this point of time. I am so sure that I can give upu a hundred percent assurance of the fact. In order to bring out the awesomeness of Jodha, Jalal will become the unreasonable romantic hero figure. Dark and slightly violent. And I should be shamed of myself as a feminist, but I am so excited for Jalal to turn into a bit of an anti-hero. 😆

Oh, don't we all love these heroes that push and pull the heroines and act rough! As Jyoti often tells me, when the men stop behaving rough, we are often left wondering what is left in the story??😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks Diksha!😛
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Oh, don't we all love these heroes that push and pull the heroines and act rough! As Jyoti often tells me, when the men stop behaving rough, we are often left wondering what is left in the story??😆


Haha. I know. It's a universal girl thing. Every bestselling romance novel follows the same pattern. Why? Because it sells. We love bad boys Or, as the famous quote goes, "Every girl wants a bad boy who will be good just for her". Women have a general tendency to try and fix things, and we love boys we can fix. At least fictionally. 😳 =
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I also think that he is slowely comming out of stage 1 and begining to enter stage 2.
Edited by elasingh - 12 years ago

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