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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: monny




u should not belive a historian who does not gives reference in his books...

historians who write books on mughals should give reference from books written during mughal rule such a aini akbari , akbarnama, baburnama etc etc...

n this books has refernces from mughal documents


PN Oak really??

Purushottam Nagesh Oak (2 March 1917 - 4 December 2007), commonly referred to as P. N. Oak, was an Indian writer, notable for his Hindu-centric brand of historical revisionism. Oak's "Institute for Rewriting Indian History" issued a quarterly periodical called Itihas Patrika in the 1980s.

Oak's claims, e.g. that Christianity and Islam are both derivatives of Hinduism, or that the Catholic Vatican, Kaaba and the Taj Mahal were once Hindutemples to Shiva,[1] and their reception in Indian popular culture have been noted by observers of contemporary Indian society, who variously characterised Oak as a "mythistorian"[2] or more directly as a "crackpot".[3] In his book, Some Missing Chapters of World History, Oak claimed that the first civilisation was developed in India from which all world civilisations grew.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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You read my mind , Alakh!' 😆 The author of this book sounds more of a hateful radical Hindu than the Mughals who he claims were totally insane & corrupted India.
Agreed, the Mughals were very cruel.. As were the Mongols, Rajputs, Romans, Greeks , French & all the other world's royalty.

And Man Bai didn't die because of Jehangir's orders, she died because she was depressed at Jehangir's behaviour towards his father who loved him deeply & so she took poison & died. Akbar held a two-day fast for her.

Cruelty & hard-heartedness aren't a caste or a religion's sole-proviso. It is a human condition/trait. While the Mughals were extremely cruel, drunk with all the power their Imperial Rule gave the , they did a lot for the architecture, culture, law & secularity of our country & have contributed powerfully & shaped Hindustan, so that we see that India today'.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

You read my mind , Alakh!' 😆 The author of this book sounds more of a hateful radical Hindu than the Mughals who he claims were totally insane & corrupted India.

Agreed, the Mughals were very cruel.. As were the Mongols, Rajputs, Romans, Greeks , French & all the other world's royalty.

And Man Bai didn't die because of Jehangir's orders, she died because she was depressed at Jehangir's behaviour towards his father who loved him deeply & so she took poison & died. Akbar held a two-day fast for her.

Cruelty & hard-heartedness aren't a caste or a religion's sole-proviso. It is a human condition/trait. While the Mughals were extremely cruel, drunk with all the power their Imperial Rule gave the , they did a lot for the architecture, culture, law & secularity of our country & have contributed powerfully & shaped Hindustan, so that we see that India today'.😊


I went through the great Mughals by Annemarie Schimmel.. Manmat bai commited suicide because of her brother's disloyalty and her son's disobedience when Salim was in rebellion with his father.. Jehangir was so devastated that he didn't eat anything for days.. Akbar even sent his own robe as a gesture..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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😲Jehangir, though married to mansingh's sister(man bai), compelled Mansingh's son, Jagat Singh, to surrender his daughter to the imperial harem. In a way, therefore, he was so blinded by his lechery that he found nothing wrong in marrying both Manbai and her grand niece. It was because of the utter shame and humiliation of the alien Moghuls dipping at their will and pleasure into their sacrosanct homes and carrying away Hindu women that Raja Bhagwandas stabbed himself, Daswandh committed suicide, a remonstrating Mansingh was sought to be throttled and poisoned by Akbar, and Mansingh's son Jagat Singh drank himself to death.


jagangir hated Akbar so much that as early as 1591 A.D. i.e. when Jehangir was only 22 years old, he poisoned Akbar.

Salim alias Jehangir had Abul Fazl, a so called gem of Akbar's court, ambushed and murdered.

murder/suicide of manbai(cousin/first wife of jahangir,):

A year or two later Prince Salim committed yet another murder. The victim this time was Hindu wife Manbai, sister of Mansingh and daughter of the Jaipur royal family, who was first wife of jahangir.
In one version of Jehangirnama it is stated that she died after a three-day fast. But it is well known that no one dies by a three-day fast. In another version it is stated that she committed suicide by taking poison. But in contemporary chronicles it is variously stated that she died following a quarrel with a harem-colleague or with Jehangir himself. The latter version is the most plausible because Jehangir was known for his propensities to murder people in cold blood . Had Manbai not been murdered, there would have been an inquiry into her death. But neither Akbar nor Jehangir batted an eyelid, much less ordered an inquiry into Manbai's death; it shows that she was the victim of a plot by Jehangir . It was because of this foul murder of his sister, only about a year before Akbar's death, that Mansing plotted to bypass Jehangir, his own brother-in-law, and instead proclaim Prince Khusru (Jehangir's son by Manbai) as emperor.😲

t😲😲😲😲😲😲thanku for great info .keep posting 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ya that's exactly what I am saying!! Alakh.
She was his mother, the woman who gave birth to him for God's sake!!! Of course he would love her, and Mughals & Hindus ESP Rajputs had merged so beautifully & comfortably by then!

The practice of tol-daan wherein the Mughal Emperor was weighed against grain, metals, precious gems , his own sword etc was actually a Rajput royal practice! Akbar used to play Holi & Diwali with great gusto with his Hindu wives! They all were allowed to have their own temples & none of them were forced to convert to Islam. In a time like that, if that wasn't greatness i don't know what was!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Ya that's exactly what I am saying!! Alakh.

She was his mother, the woman who gave birth to him for God's sake!!! Of course he would love her, and Mughals & Hindus ESP Rajputs had merged so beautifully & comfortably by then!

The practice of tol-daan wherein the Mughal Emperor was weighed against grain, metals, precious gems , his own sword etc was actually a Rajput royal practice! Akbar used to play Holi & Diwali with great gusto with his Hindu wives! They all were allowed to have their own temples & none of them were forced to convert to Islam. In a time like that, if that wasn't greatness i don't know what was!!!


Some people on this forum will actually believe the book posted by monny

Spreading ignorance and lies should be a crime😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes the mughals were cruel, they were not great invaders for nothing. If its part of history then well we need to accept it. Even britishers were cruel. The lesson still lost is unity.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: realitybites

Yes the mughals were cruel, they were not great invaders for nothing. If its part of history then well we need to accept it. Even britishers were cruel. The lesson still lost is unity.


Yep, they were cruel, but the information given by monny is utterly baseless and false.😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Our Salim seems to be notorious..😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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if today when a baby born in usa he/she is called usa citizen, when born in india,called indian citizen, irrespective of his/her blood connection and so on then why akbar is always called an invader when he was born in india and died here too,and served for this country..??

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