Judges who are consistently inconsistent

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Posted: 12 years ago
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The judging has often been absurd this entire season, but never was it more obvious than last 3-4 weeks.
I just finished with the saturday-sunday performances and the scores makes me wonder that either the judges are following a script provided by colors channel or all three are suffering from short term memory loss
there is absolute disconnect between the comments and scores, and the criteria the judge, different contestants on seems to be different.

if Saturday got weird scores, Sunday was much worse.

They gave 30 for an act where 3 amazing dancers and choreographers in their own right for a performance that was hilarious in its own right but was rather simple and "inspired" inspite of admitting to having seen such a concept before. Why did the score it 30, just because it was a dedication to them or because it was being done by Lauren who is being over praised pretty much now.
on the other hand, they give only 24 to Mukti for her teen ka tadka a score equivalent to Shaan when Mukti's dance was far better than Shaan. either give her more or give him less. there has to be some difference between the two scores considering there was difference between the two performances.
Remo and Madhuri did not find any fault with Drashti's teen ka tadka (from their comments atleast), and yet gave a 9. KJo at least mentioned a reason for giving 9 (however absurd it might be)
Coming to Sunday,
the only performance they scored properly was Mukti's. She performed like what I have been expecting her to since the time I heard she was participating in Jhalak. like the Mukti of few years ago in Zaara Nach ke Dikha. her Mujra was a class act

Did they really give 10, 9 and 9 for the really flawed Bharatnatyam attempt of Lauren and Punit's. Everything from the posture, the mudras, the expressions, the lack of softness, the speed was wrong. There were obvious mistakes, not just Lauren's but Punit's too and its a shame that Madhuri and Remo gave 9 for this and Kjo 10. you dont give full or near full marks only because she attempted.
In that vein Shaan should have far more for his Mallakhamb and KVB should have scored far more for his tap dance and Ekta for her Odissi-Chau fusion, Sana's Kathak and lehzim.

Shaan got 27 for his lame tapoori attemt where all he did was move around the prop and Drashti got 27 was a more than decent and entertaining imitation of Hum ko aaj kal hai.
If Drashti's dance was 27, there is no way, Shaan's should have been more than 22-23.
KJo and Madhuri found no flaw and yet gave a 9 and Remo's reason of slight loss of balance for giving a 9 would have been alright had he not given 9 for the flawed bharatnatyam, lame tapoori dance and repeated lifts of Sonali.

Do they really know how they are scoring each act.
a simple act for one untrained dancer gets 24 and another untrained dancer where there was almost no dance gets 27 and for a trained dancer gets 30
an attempt at a new dance form by an untrained dancer gets 24 and by a trained one gets 28

Is it that they are being stricter with thee untrained dancer than the trained one's when if anything it should be the other way around.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: CestMoi

Now I feel like using Fangirl logic and call the TM jealous soul 😆 And no I'll call it by giving logic here. TM has problem with two of the contestants who are the biggest competition for DD, Shaan and Lauren. So what's the recipe for bashing here, put both of them down by using Mukti and judges for the sake of an argument.

As for DD's dance, personally speaking, it was very simple and more or less a copied version of Madhuri. No innovation and very little dancing. Only thing good was expressions and as far as I remember, this show is about dancing and not expressions. So I have to agree with you here for judges giving her a 27, way more than she deserved 😉

So yeh, better luck next time, but your post reflects the insecurity here. Wait, wait, wait...I am only using DDians logic here, don't cry foul OK 😆

Note: Now that you accept that judges are inconsistent, I'll just say they have always been inconsistent even when DD was given "thuttys" like candies 😛



and there it starts, generalizing everyone be it from fans or non fans.
you can call me insecure, call me jealous or any other thing you want, wont change what my opinion is
There is no denying that Lauren is the best, far ahead of all contestants and choreographers, but she did not deserve 28 for her semi classical.
and if one is going to talk about innovation and imitation, then the gig on 3 judges was not original either, so isnt 30 too way more than what they deserved, an I am going by your logic not mine.

Of course Drashti and Shaan and Siddhart have been given more marks than what they deserved in the start, just like Lauren got more than she deserved this week and the kids too
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: redfox



and there it starts, generalizing everyone be it from fans or non fans.
you can call me insecure, call me jealous or any other thing you want, wont change what my opinion is
There is no denying that Lauren is the best, far ahead of all contestants and choreographers, but she did not deserve 28 for her semi classical.
and if one is going to talk about innovation and imitation, then the gig on 3 judges was not original either, so isnt 30 too way more than what they deserved, an I am going by your logic not mine.

Of course Drashti and Shaan and Siddhart have been given more marks than what they deserved in the start, just like Lauren got more than she deserved this week and the kids too



Exactly, the point. You are ready to point out Lauren's act as not being original in your original post. Then why not extend the same logic to DD whose act was all copied with very little dancing and only expressions. So don't you think 27 was way too much than what they deserved. Yes I am going by your original logic, wasn't my logic to begin with 😆 And then you talk about generalizing.

As for generalizing, too bad, a party shouldn't have started when few were criticizing their princess and tag them as bashers/haters. Now the same favor is being returned here. The way sane critiques were generalized back then, here you have been generalized with others, not much of a difference. And nah, don't expect me to act sane here where sanity has been killed and butchered on number of occasions.

And yes, even I am entitled to my opinions as well

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: CestMoi


As for DD's dance, personally speaking, it was very simple and more or less a copied version of Madhuri. No innovation and very little dancing. Only thing good was expressions and as far as I remember, this show is about dancing and not expressions. So I have to agree with you here for judges giving her a 27, way more than she deserved 😉



DD may have got unfair 30s earlier for some of her performances but as far as Sunday's performance goes, she did what she was told. She was supposed to give Madhuri's attitude. So naturally her dance has to look like Madhuri's. So why blame her for the copy because she was supposed to copy Madhuri. Attitude is about expressions. So if you feel her expressions were good that means she has done what she was expected to do. Since the show is about dancing, what were Lauren and Co doing in the Teen ka Tadka? There was very little dancing in the act, which all the judges agreed. So if that act can be marked on the basis of 'entertainment' so can DD's act too, especially since she was explicitly asked to copy Madhuri's attitude and not her dance.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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They give nice marks to Lauren becoz if she gets less marks
than she will be in bottom 3
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well, the song Lauren chose for classical dance wasn't a typical slow number so one cant expect them to go off beat completely. Yes, stiffness was there but Shaan's Mallakhamb was an embarrassment on a different level altogether. 😆

I have to agree that Lauren's teen ka tadka act wasn't a 30 rating performance.. and this I am telling despite loving the act. The judges have been inconsistent while marking an average performance and ok performance on the same level since quite some time now. Maybe something like grading system would give them better clarity while scoring. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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We are saying this from the first day ..Judges are inconsistent and bias ..there is no standard ..how come some average performances got 30 s in the begining of the season .. ... Those days u guys only defend them ..Oh well I think that time DD was getting 30s ... 😉

And coming to DDs performance ..Its nice ,beautiful .. and she enact Madhuris performance well ..even most of the steps are directly copied and pasted .. So I enjoyed her performance ..Isnt that good to get 27 .,,what do u think judges should give 30 for that simple act ..

Well I really dont need to defend judges as they are just useless in this season ..Except in Few times KJO was much better than the rest ..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet-mishty

They give nice marks to Lauren becoz if she gets less marks
than she will be in bottom 3


Wow .. How do u know ..wait till this weeks show telecast .. So can see who lives in dream world .. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I felt that mukti,ragini ans shanhank were really good. They deserved at least 28
Remo has some personal problems with mukti it seems
they couldn't afford not to give her a 30 as it was so classy and beautifully done

i also felt that DD-sanaya-salman deserved a 30. Stupid judgement. They have DD and salman 30 for that stupid and nonsense pole dance and they gave a 27 for that beautiful paso doble . KJo season was really funny.

Lauren performance was surely flawed. She missed that flow, that softness that should be present
but if Sid got 27 only for running after his choreo and a stupid pole dance got 30, then Lauren deserved her 28
for a first time it was not that bad as compared to the two above and many more .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet-mishty

They give nice marks to Lauren becoz if she gets less marks than she will be in bottom 3


they have to give her good marks as anyone who sees her performance will know that she deserves her 30s all the 10 times

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