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Posted: 14 years ago
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nikita: agree with you on EVERY point. infact i am more excited to see who will bring their A game next week!!.
aslo, if contestants are being tagged as trained, then why is JDJ taking them on??
then its sushant or yana that should be blamed, its the producers!
also, the so called "nondancers" KNOW their competiton, so if they are partticipating in a show, then they know their opponents. its is on the confidence of themselves that they take on the show itself!
if not, they will reject. simple as that!

aslo, i think, that when contestants come on the show, thy come with tags, but slowly audience forgets that, and they create their own identites based on the screen time and dancing skills, improvement etc. so, to say popular, and hence thy will win is a stretch. pre show popularity will take somewhere, but its their perf., on the show that COUNTS

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Saaki--

Hello..............


Well,thought wont be regular from now on.........I dont know what god wants that I applied for leave & was granted so that I can sit share my feelings with you all..........Loving it.................. .........

Firstly welcome back again though I couldn't say bye to last time and good I didn't as you are back and it's good to see you back here and I love the emoticons you use!
Ok,I don't post much in forum because I lost interest in JDJ4 forum more than the show only.
Coming to my Topic.........How many of you feel the way Iam feeling???????
I am not talking about the eliminated contestants.......I am talking about the contestants remaining in JDJ............
I have a lot of reasons to justify my answer.......
1 . Its always Sushant scores 30.............. 🥱: How Boring...........No compitition at all.......Then,whats the need to have all others perform............Taking dancers like Sushant & Yana.......how can anybody xpect the non-dancers to live upto Sushant & Yana.......Sushant keep scoring 30 through out & before his performance itself anybody can say that he will score 30.......
Dont you all think we need some change....Some compitition????????

Hmm haven't Chang scored 30 more than once infact he has scored more than Sushant why not consider that. 😃 How about contestant not forgetting steps to score and why do need to blame Sushant/Yana/Chang for getting 30 and can one give to Mahi performance last week 30 where she forgot steps. 😕 Lets keep Sushant dancer thing aside as we going on to talk about it never stops and it can concluded in only one way saying he doesn't deserve to in this show only.

4 . Judges' Scores ......... : OMG............I seriously dont get their marking styles......Judges say something & give something............So many performances I felt deserved lesser than 30......was given 30....especially Susahnt's..........& even sometimes Ragini's........Dont get it...........I am totally confused about judges' behaviour.........That really makes me to think "JDJ is rigged to an extent"............
This is what I felt seeing the JDJ so far......
I am really sad to see some very improving dancers like Daya & Ragini going out ........I have no offence with Sushant & Yana..........But,Honestly speak guys....Do you people really think it is a fair decision to take Sushant ,even though he knows dancing & has already participated in ZND......???No doubt he is a brilliant dancer........I am not complaining......Thats why he everytime takes 30.......I appreciate it.........But,dont you think its really unfair with the other contestants that he is there?
How is it unfair for other contestant if Sushant gets 30 every time like even I agree few of his performance was not 30 worthy,but still I don't it's unfair to other contestant because he doesn't say them to have only lifts or to forget steps. 😕
If Sushant is kept in the compitition with Salman or SAvio or Vrushali...........Then,dont you think its unfair with Sushant as all the others sre trained dancers & xcellent choreographers....
The same is happening with the other contestants by Sushant & yana being here even though they are dancers........
I felt really sad seeing Daya & Ragini going & some already trained "Dancers" taking their postitions..............
I am saying once again,there is no offence for me with Sushant or Yana......Its me against the show itself.........the way they have chosen their contestants...........


Wowww was this post made to say whether Sushant and Yana deserved to be on this or on whether on it's loosing charm? Do you know Ragini is trained in Bollywood dancing?
BTW........I have seen many posts saying "How Mahi gets more votes than Ragini & Ankita?"......
Let me speak guys........The daily soaps are owned by our very own mothers & usually housewives.....These people wont follow Reality shows.......& they wont vote.........
Reality shows are owned by usually the "Young folk".........The people who comes to this forum is just 10%.......LTL is famous in "Youths" mostly compared to SGP & PR..........Their TRPS are high coz of the housewives who see those shows & LTL is not that famous among housewives but with the Youth like me......LTL is not like other shows...........Mahi is the lead character & we LTLians love her a lot.......There is a topic in our LTL forum dedicated for her performances,news & etc in JDJ...........We sincerely vote for her whether she performs well or not........
Adding to that.........Mahi was before a model & has done a music video as well (Tu tu hain wahi).....She is remembered through that....Adding to that.....She is Madhuri's "Chota Packet"......Madhuri's fans do vote for her as well Jai Bhanushali's fnas.........as she is his fianceeeeeeee..............So,all these things count in her "Max-Votes"..........Mahi definitely have a tremendous vote bank..............HAving a fan thread in this Forum is just 10% & rest all comes from outside.....

You know why Mahi being in Top 5 surprising to may people in JDJ forum not because she is not popular or anything it's because one hardly see any of her fan other than you, even you who is busy making post saying Sushant/Yana doesn't deserve than making post on appreciating like how good she was in "zara zara" performance or in "Maliaka challenge act" and in even in LTL forum people are more concerned of her being out in this show as we guys want TaSha,so this make people suspicious like from where she gets vote if not no one is surprised of her popularity atleast I'm not and I can see who all are voting as many people seem to be charmed by her innocence infact I love her in JDJ more.
Finally..........I just wanna say to the JDJ PH........Please......For godasake....Let the Top 5 be something different in performance & Dance forms & themes.........& something we love to watch for.......

I agree on this hope we get see other dance forms than contemporary and also I feel out of all contestant I feel Neerav-Ragini performance has more variety though they couldn't create magic every time,but they did leave presence in JDJ4 which I'm gonna miss for sure.
I really really hope to see some "New" in JDJ4 in coming days......
All types of Negative & Positive comment are welcome.............
Hope i didn't hurt any one. 😳


Edited by nishr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiya229


@bold: thats why madhuri is there na, she is a trained dancer, and has worked in the film industry when indian dances where at its peak.!


most of the choreos dance to impress remo, the dance tech guru,
i am very much aware of madhuri;s capabilities but
madhuri , she is a star..to maintain dat she has to b nice 2 others and appreciate their dancing. i dont think (alone) she can afford to pin point the mistakes. datz why -nice, excellent, good energy are always present in her comments. perhaps, instead of malliaka , saroj khan should have been there to balance everything.
& i dont think most choreos are trained in indian classics- so they do what they are best at.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: aadrika01



don't feel bad for Daya sir dear 😊........he tried his best and gone with head held high.......👏

Yeah.........But,still miss him in the show.............Ouch..........Thx for replying dear........ ................



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Posted: 14 years ago
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This season started with a bang, but it is now facing a sever decline. The performances and choreography are becoming lackluster at this point. This is supposed to be the time where most shows usually pick up and audience interest usually rises, but the show is going a little downhill instead. Judge's scores, contestant's performances, Mona's Romeo, its all getting too monotonous now. It seems more like a platform created as Madhuri's grand ambassador and for movie promotions of movies most of us aren't going to be watching anyway. They've roped in daily soaps celebs to garner votes based on their popularity, and I think that's all that's keeping the show alive at this point. They put in one Sushant-Ankita scene each week and that gets their fans going gaga and they achieve their high TRPs. Seriously waiting for better choreography on screen and more versatility in dance forms! Judges need to brush up on their knowledge of dance and various forms as well and provide proper feedback instead of constant 10s and "this is it"s!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _-sHoNaa-_

i dnt know but i can never keep up with ANY season of JDJ😆 It's like i loose interest in the middle & it happens for every season.

Yeah actually......But,compared to other seasons........This season surely rocks.......... ...........
But,gradually its losing charm ..........I am feeling so...............
Thx for replying.........



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9991

Hey dont say me that pavitra rishta is not famous among youths LOL all sushita fans over here in this forum are youths,this is one big proof. Any love story with good looking leads are always a hit with youths,the same is about pavitra rishta, and LTL this is the only show which is watched by house wives

@ Bold : R u kidding me????????????😆😆😆😆............
LTL has this masala & kitchen politics to an extent ........
But,the main story revolves around TaSha's(Dutta-Nakusha) LS.......Thats it.........
There is nothing much "Masala TAdka" so that housewives sit & watch........I have been watching LTL for one year now.........You should definitely be kidding me.........😆😆😆.........
I am saying you again dear......The fans,members or anything in this Forum contains just 10% of what actually is.........
There is a lot outside............Which will count almost 90%...........
Thx for replying.......... ..............



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

The show has never been a show about 'non-dancers' as is common misconception. It is all about celebrities from various walks. Look into any site that explains the format of the show- it states the same. Even the judges are aware of this.

It was the channel who approached Sushant Yana and others, so they cannot be held responsible for anything. In the previous seasons of this show too, there have been a few trained dancers.

When the other 'non-dancers' signed the show and started shooting for it, they KNEW what the format was and who was taking part. They did not oppose then. And so, almost 9 weeks later, when people like Sushant and Yana have slogged equally hard (we have to remember here that Sushant also works in a daily show) then such reasons cannot be given any consideration. If they really believed it was unfair, then they should have said that in the beginning of the show. Then they would have been appreciated for their forthrightness and their reasoning would have got consideration. Sadly, some contestants made this statement AFTER they were eliminated. And so their grouse does not get that consideration now, in my eyes.

If we are speaking of advantages- then yes, Sushant has an advantage. But then even Chang, Shekhar Suman etc. have advantages- they do not have daily shows and get much more time to practise than sushant who does not sleep 3 days before his performances in order to give a worth 30 performance. But we never complained, the soap stars did not complain when they were told to do two performances in a week and also prepare for a probable face off---- bcos they were aware from the very beginning that they would have to juggle their timings for their shootings as well as their JDJ rehearsals and couldn't make excuses if they didn't perform well later. Similarily, the other contestants knew well what they were getting into, that the level of the contestants wouldn't be the same, even in the previous seasons we had some people who were trained (Sweta Salve, Sudha Chandran). There is nothing new.

The show is not just about dancing, its all about using your advantages and strengths to the best of your ability to give an entertaining performance. Here the role of the choreo is important. Neerav capitalised on Ragini's expressions- she does the masti type dancing well, Salman makes use of Yana's flexibility, Shampa coordinates and choreographs well according to Sushant's concepts cos he is a budding director and writer and has that vision (If you notice, its the concept and choreography which is praised more in their performances). Sonia Jaffer- in the previous season, capitalised on Baichung's agility(since he was a sportsman). She also used Mahesh Manjrekar's ideas (since he is a director) in the first season to bring that x-factor in the performances, which made them look good.

Those choreos who make use of their partner's advantages can win JDJ. Sonia did it with Baichung in season 3, others can do it too.

I personally think that the channel needs some good dancers as well along with the non-dancers cos no one would want to see someone who is not really good- in the first performance- Akhil, Chang etc. weren't very good. Remember how we all wanted Akhil to get out? If the show didn't have 2-3 good dancers then no one would have watched the show to wait for the day till the non-dancers started dancing well. They needed some sort of a balance so that people start watching the show, get some entertainment from the good ones, look at the improvement of the not-so good ones and wonder whether they will improve as the show goes on.

It is at the end of the show that the non-dancers get the advantage in the form of public sympathy as people start feeling that the non-dancer should be favoured over the dancer. (This happened in season 1 when Sweta Salve lost to Mona Singh) So Sushant's advantage is likely to become his worst disadvantage at the most crucial timing.

Regarding popularity- frankly speaking, I think there is no parameter for defining which actor/actress is more popular. TRP's of the show are an indication, but not always. Any fan who has been exposed to the fans of his favourite star always feels that his/her star is the most popular.

For me, Jhalak has not lost its charm as yet. Not at all. In fact, as the finale is approaching, I'm only getting more excited.

(Okay, I guess some of the above was not related to the original topic, but chalo koi baat nahi.)

Nikita...........
If it is "Dancing with the stars" & take both "Non-Dancers" & "Dancers" in a show then there should not be any compitition done......
For me,Compitition is always with the "Balanced" set of people who are equally talented........
But,here thats not the case.......
I know you may not feel this way as long as your Favo is in the show & getting good scores & as someone said.......Its natural........
But,If they ha dto do the show then they could have made it fair with only judges' scores or only public voting or anything different rather than any compitition............
Thats xactly my issue..............
The show's main theme itself is such that after a while it goes lame......
Hope to see some change in coming days though.......
Thx for replying dear...........



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Menak13

oH Lord!!

I thought I was the only one who thought so!
sushant dances well but 30 on every single perfo is a sheer joke!
I agree with u 100%
i havent watched the previous seasons..but i have lost interest in the show!
they need to be hard on the particz
And i also feel that remo....is not a big fan of bollywood dances, indian dances etc.. thus he cannot judge on technical aspect of indain dances.
.i guess datz the reason all the choreos do the same old flips(M sick of em)
even if the theme is bollywood like last week, they add all the other contemporary , moves in it...
i have seen so much contempo that i have started to dislike that dance form.

They really need to work on DAnce forms...........
I feel so detached by the same choreographies.......I would love to see some "Indian Classic".......
That would be some challenge for contestants........
They chose choreographies as though they are doing it for some Foreigners & no Indian Dance forms for Indians.........
Thx for replying......... .............Hope to see some change in JDJ............



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tiya229

nikita: agree with you on EVERY point. infact i am more excited to see who will bring their A game next week!!.

aslo, if contestants are being tagged as trained, then why is JDJ taking them on??
then its sushant or yana that should be blamed, its the producers!
also, the so called "nondancers" KNOW their competiton, so if they are partticipating in a show, then they know their opponents. its is on the confidence of themselves that they take on the show itself!
if not, they will reject. simple as that!

aslo, i think, that when contestants come on the show, thy come with tags, but slowly audience forgets that, and they create their own identites based on the screen time and dancing skills, improvement etc. so, to say popular, and hence thy will win is a stretch. pre show popularity will take somewhere, but its their perf., on the show that COUNTS

Dear.....I have never said I am complaining about Sushant or Yana......
I am complaining about the unbalance compititors they have chosen in the show..........
I am too blaming the show & PH only.......From the first...........
Love to see some change & Indianness in the Dancing.........Thats it..............😊
Thx for replying..........



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