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Posted: 16 years ago
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#1 thing no bashing.

Bashing will lead to reporting, and reporting will lead to ultimately getting banned. This forum is filled with people whose warning meter is quite high.
I am so ashamed of myself for making this topic , as repeated topics are lame and totally unnecessary but it seems like because of the really faithful (who have been called blind) fans the normal KSG fans who think he doesn't deserve the title is not being heard.
On the other hand because Karan is being mocked and bashed so much the valid points why he doesn't deserve it not getting across.
Here is what I think..
Voting is awesome. You get to vote whoever you want, no one is stopping you but I honestly think it is wrong when you vote someone who is not quite worthy. I always saw it as a moral responbility. I clearly remember getting in a long verbal discussion over Parul in some another forum because she is my favorite actress, but when she came to Jhalak I supported someone else. Do I still love her? Yes very much. Do I love her any less? NO!
Maybe I am just one of those people who really believe in doing right things, and this bothers me. I love Karan. Towards the beginning even when he gave a thanda performance I supported him. And I still do. I always hope he does better and gives us something that is worth a 30. But sadly he hasn't. It is finals now. Serious business. No longer he will get better, or he has it in him. It is how much he has provided us with.
Why should Karan get the JDJ 3 title?
From Shradha to Nicole they keep saying how hard he has worked. Even his fans. Is that any reason to win? I mean if he didn't work hard it would make difference, make him a bad contestant. But the fact that he works hard is nothing. NOTHING. Baichung has worked hard, I think he has worked the hardest. Gauhar has gone through a lot for this competition. HK has taken many risks and rocked it, Shilpa has also taken many different risks, Monica has worked hard and dealt with emotional things, Ram had to take injections, painkillers to stay through this.
I am not saying Karan hasn't worked hard. He really has and I love the guy for it. He has gone through a lot of physical pain, even though he is quite built it's not in a nice healthy functional way I guess. He has hard time picking up Nicole.
I know many has mentioned that Shradha and Nicole are beggng for votes, and I can't find a more polite way to say this.::: YES THEY ARE
Their is a HUGE difference between earnng and begging. Baichung came shocked the judges and the audinces he earned his votes. Gauhar might've cried but she still earned her title as a dancer to watch out for she has also earned her votes. Hard Kaur has mesmerized and left us speechless she has also earned her votes. Parul has done things no one ever though she could do, and she did them well she has also earned her votes. If this was a popularity show then ok we could do that. But sadly it is a DANCE SHOW with Popular people. No matter how hard you try to twist it, it is still a dance show.
After getting a score like 18 when you ask for double votes what does it sound like? with all honesty that is called begging, not earning. Earning is when you ask for what is rightfully yours.
I was always proud of Shilpa, even when her chances were slim she said vote for us if you think we deserved it.
Do the judges have a right to be mad? YES
if you are a teacher in a class and the best student in the class was cut out because his seat had to be saved for the worst student would you not be pissed off?? Some people are saying if they wanted HK so much they should;ve taken GK out. Yeah why not? A teacher would take out another good student from the class to give space to the bad one.
Nicole as a choreographer
This one is funny. I can live with karan winning JDJ dancer title. No one really cares if he dances or not. But I can not in my right mind believe there is a chance Nicole might win this title? Nicole??
Javed=== AMAZING!!! TALENTED!! Choreographs brilliant pieces
Deepak == creative, does something different, amazing, has turned Parul into a gem
Savio== CREATIVE, comes up with brilliant performances, awesome
Sonia== has made a non dancer like Baichung shine like a diamond, hides all his flaws, does soemthing different everytime
Nishant == So young, a risktaker, innovative, creative, excellent
And then there is Nicole. Question beside the cube dance has she choreographed anything in the show yet that could compete with the choreographers mentioned above. I don't think so. She is talented, she is good. But she is not nearly as good as the others. They are amazing. The comparison is like between someone with a PHD and a high schooler.
On the issue of popularity
Mona was popular she won, Prachi was popular she won. no one denies you need popularity. But were they this bad compared to others? Did they give out a performance of 18 marks when his competitor get a 29?? like wow the difference is by 10 marks!! not one or two. Even if it's by 3-4 it's considered big. And guy that was the SEMI FINAL!
Vote whoever you like, it's your money.Just be honest. It hurts rational people to see " KARAN DESERVES TO WIN" I am a fan, but even I can't sit through such things. I thought the fanclubs were here for a reason. The forum is a public place, you can't make a topic for the faithfuls, and not expect criticism.
No offense to anyone. 😃
Last but not least I found this amusing!! Very amusing
Saroj Khan, Juhi Chawla and Vaibhabi are amazing at their field of work. They only got that recongnition because they have mastered in that field. I find it funny that members on this forum bash such respective people, but they frown when they see others bash their favorite.
So far I have found the judges confusing at the beginning , but never biased. They are awesome. I might not agree with them all the time but I respect them and believe they know what they are doing.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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stop being harsh on nicole man....look at her age first...shes the youngest if they have a problem iwth nicole whyd they even keep her knowing that she's young therefore lacks talent????? shes a pretty good choreographer...ok!! if karan thinks nicole rocks...why do u have such big issues with her?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Very well said!!!!!!! Prachi and Mona were not the best but at least they dance really well but Karan OMG( I don't want to say anything lol)
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: daniyahs

stop being harsh on nicole man....look at her age first...shes the youngest if they have a problem iwth nicole whyd they even keep her knowing that she's young therefore lacks talent????? shes a pretty good choreographer...ok!! if karan thinks nicole rocks...why do u have such big issues with her?

with all due respect if a smart 1st grader and a smart 4th grader were competing should they let the 1st grader win just because she is young. She is young and talented. I don't deny it even for a second.
But Nishant, Javed, Deepak, Sonia and Savio are much more talented. Hence they deserve it more.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi Perfangel5655,
Very well-written post!! I agree with you on all your points. It hurts not only in this show but in any area when the lesser deserving take up the place of the more deserving. Working hard is not a special criteria here because everyone in this contest works hard.
While the votes of the fans is not in his hands, what is in Karan's power is to stand tall and admit that he is being saved by votes which are not in his control even when he is a weaker contestant in terms of dancing. That would really speak of integrity. To silently listen to the judges and other contestants speaking against him is not correct, I feel.
Nicole is young but I think that is not an excuse not to push her celebrity contestant to his fullest potential. Somewhere, Nicole has turned out to be Karan's greatest liability as she has not made him dance to his fullest potential.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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kay i want gauhar to win
but it makes me mad how the judges are venting their anger out on KARAN! :@
like its not his fault his fans vote for him, its not like he's forcing them to or anything. so it just pisses me off when the judges are rude to him, and when they're biased.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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and i actually thought nicole was the most talented...she seems like it i liked haniif too...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@ Perfangel5655: Good post. you have highlighted some valid points, which I agree with. Personally, when I say that Karan should not win Jhalak, it's only based on performance. He is not up to the level of a winner and Nicole has not raised the level of her choreography either. At the end of the day, a contestant should win for the right reasons. Sadly, this is not always the case.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I would also like to add that Himanshu - Gauhar's choreographer and Shilpa's choreographer were OUTSTANDING.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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nicole is really a good choreographer but she hasn't been able to show it, i agree with that point...she has not been able to explore karan completely. though i'm a karan fan i don't say the he must win or something because i know he is not the best...but it really hurts when people stoop so low to bash him...insult him in every possible way....i think among the finalists GAUHAR is the most desrving one...i won't mind if she wins and i won't cry or be sad if karan doesn't because he is not the most deserving one....but all his haters need to stop bashing him all the time...i sometimes even can't believe that sme people can go so down to insult or bash him.

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