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BlueSoul thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: hope4u

in a situation like this..i really dont understand how fair it is to have judges marks as 50%, especially when they r so inconsistent..better keep only audience voting since the audience will vote for those they want to see..
anyways, it looks like a BB, HK and KSG final to me, even if karan comes in the dance off 2mrw..somehow, i doubt jhalak will want to let go of their top money earner before the final.


See Judges are there to guide the audience...All of the audience do not understand what exactly "Dance" is. Not that im saying im a genius....its just that many must not be knowing different dance forms n which kinds of lifts are good etc etc. So they are really required.... But the question remains...Are they really fair to all?

And If karan comes in face off ..Judges wont save him...thats for sure. Inspite of all his efforts they keep mentioning..."Karan's popularity" ...everytime...Even if you check the Synopsis of this forum....on the very first page...next to popular cast...they've written "Karan's popularity" there. 😕

Considering the fact...that the post is not about Karan or any other...its in general. Otherwise who will save my topic from the bashing🤔
Edited by BlueSoul - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: BlueSoul


I just gave an example.....Not that they should follow that 2 marks rule....its just that there should be marks for each thing...so that when you cut you are fair to all. And if the dance is such that there is no need of lip-sync...then its for their gain...they'll be provided marks...If they did that with grace. A performance on an instrumental with no lip-syncing is not easy...that requires a lot of grace...you cannot open your mouth and breathe.... and yes this type of Schemes are there in many contests.

I am sorry if you misunderstood me, what I ment was that conceptually what you are saying is perfect, but in practical perposes, such things can go wayward. Like when they say to some performance, in which the judges say that lip sync was missing and deduct marks according, to another if there is no lip sync and they dont say anything and does not cut marks, it is not necessary that they are partial. Like even if a song is going in the background, people might be enacting it, which might or might not require lip sync or if someone is doing kuchipudi or kathak they do not have to say the bol, so might be the case with other dance forms as well. Of course I would always like to hear the reason from judges why they have deducted some marks. One thing I would agree with you, which you have mentioned in another post, that sometimes I have seen judges to be linient towards someone who is percieved weak and extra tough to someone percieved strong, whereas people comes to dance off on basis of marks aas well as votes hence they should be consistent.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#13
I agree,the marking has been out of whack this season.
there should be proper demarcation on the basis of choreography ,execution,expression,lip syncing.

The hosts blamed the public for voting for their favorites.
What about the judges giving marks to their favorites.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaushikbasu

I am sorry if you misunderstood me, what I ment was that conceptually what you are saying is perfect, but in practical perposes, such things can go wayward. Like when they say to some performance, in which the judges say that lip sync was missing and deduct marks according, to another if there is no lip sync and they dont say anything and does not cut marks, it is not necessary that they are partial. Like even if a song is going in the background, people might be enacting it, which might or might not require lip sync or if someone is doing kuchipudi or kathak they do not have to say the bol, so might be the case with other dance forms as well. Of course I would always like to hear the reason from judges why they have deducted some marks. One thing I would agree with you, which you have mentioned in another post, that sometimes I have seen judges to be linient towards someone who is percieved weak and extra tough to someone percieved strong, whereas people comes to dance off on basis of marks aas well as votes hence they should be consistent.


First of all...why are you sorry?..if I misunderstood you 😛. I should be sorry...... n 2nd thing is.... like in cricket...most of the times Batsman is given the benefit of doubt......when the case is doubtful..right....so same applies here...if there's a performance which does not require lip-sync ..and they dont do it...then they'll be provided with marks. But if there's a need of lip-sync n you dont do it...then they should cut marks. And they should mention it that today there was no need to lip-sync so we are not cutting your marks.
Im sorry again if im not getting what you are trying to say😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: BlueSoul

<br>See Judges are there to guide the audience...All of the audience do not understand what exactly "Dance" is. Not that im saying im a genius....its just that many must not be knowing different dance forms n which kinds of lifts are good etc etc. So they are really required.... But the question remains...Are they really fair to all?<br><br>And If karan comes in face off ..Judges wont save him...thats for sure. Inspite of all his efforts they keep mentioning..."Karan's popularity" ...everytime...Even if you check the Synopsis of this forum....on the very first page...next to popular cast...they've written "Karan's popularity" there. 😕<br><br>Considering the fact...that the post is not about Karan or any other...its in general. Otherwise who will save my topic from the bashing🤔<br>



that's d point innit? who cares for the judges opinion? tell me, how many people do u think will watch the show and then actually vote based on judges opinion? people who vote, vote for favourites... however, if there r ppl who believe in these judgements. it isnt fair right? for teh judges themselves to have favourites.. yea, and i read that synopsis thing.. they had to give a characteristic for each contestant, so karan= mr. popular.. like gauhar being called best dancer all the times gets onto my nerves, this also comes as a close second..
and well, 2mrw's elimination is gonna be 1 hell of a nerve wrecker
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Posted: 16 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: hope4u



that's d point innit? who cares for the judges opinion? tell me, how many people do u think will watch the show and then actually vote based on judges opinion? people who vote, vote for favourites... however, if there r ppl who believe in these judgements. it isnt fair right? for teh judges themselves to have favourites.. yea, and i read that synopsis thing.. they had to give a characteristic for each contestant, so karan= mr. popular.. like gauhar being called best dancer all the times gets onto my nerves, this also comes as a close second..
and well, 2mrw's elimination is gonna be 1 hell of a nerve wrecker


Arey bhai....we ..as in..IF members dont care about the Judges verdict...But still there are many ppl who vote according to the scores. Like these days even the thela wala'a have mobiles n vote...and they get influenced by judges....it reflects in the voting trend also...Like in DID when they showed a major part of saturdays episode saying...why only girls are eliminated...it reflected in the next or next to next voting...n a boy got eliminated even if he was a brilliant dancer. So we cannot say that who cares about the judges scores.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#17
it's a whole mixed bag, really...but all of it ends in a tinge of unfairness...for those who listen to the judges' opinion and take it seriously while voting, the inconsistency and occasional favouritism makes it wrong influence...on the flipside, if the inconsistency were to exist entirely apart from the public voting for those they want to see, the fact that it counts for 50% of the verdict accords sanctity where it may be misplaced alot of the time, and hence makes it unfair...so the problem really lies in the whole criteria for judging, which is evidently at a different level for each contender...what they forget is that the scoreboard finally reads all of them at the same level, and the ranking points that make or break them are given accordingly...😳
and yes, the tags are quite pointless, and get quite annoying after a point, since they seem to chase the bearer no matter what he/she does to overstep it, whether it's Gauhar not dancing well, or Karan actually dancing well and earning his marks...Gauhar gets low scores for two consecutive performances, and yet the tag of best dancer remains intact...no offense meant, just a factual instance...at the same time, Karan scores two 27s in a row, and yet still remains the guy who earns his position on the show solely on account of votes...intriguing, eh?
Edited by nandinidev - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#18
well....totally agreed with u.........
i can write alot about it..........

but for today i was really surprised at SK's scoring system.........
GK missed steps...lost sync......NINE
BB no lip sync at all...from start to end....NINE
and
HK....perfect dance...with lip sync....still....NINE!!!! 😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: Opium_KASHaf

well....totally agreed with u.........<br>i can write alot about it..........<br><br>but for today i was really surprised at SK's scoring system.........<br>GK missed steps...lost sync......NINE<br>BB no lip sync at all...from start to end....NINE<br>and<br>HK....perfect dance...with lip sync....still....NINE!!!!😕 <br>



I agree, the way its going Hard Kaur may end up in dance off,she is the only contestant who earned her marks for each performance.
Edited by ishtar - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: ishtar



I agree, the way its going Hard Kaur may end up in dance off,she is the only contestant who earned her marks for each performance.


I agree😊

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