Ram Supporters -Channel is Fooling the Voters..

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Posted: 16 years ago
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i discussed the following in one of the topic which i wanted to bring into notice of everyone, since so much money is given to the channel in the form of voting and they are cheating us.. First of let me tell you that this format is been adopted from BBC's stricly come dancing..

Format of Strictly come dancing is

The show pairs a number of celebrities with professional ballroom dancers who each week compete against each other in a competition to impress a panel of judges and the viewing public in order to survive potential elimination. Through telephone voting, viewers vote who they would like to stay, the results of the poll being combined with the ranking of the panel of judges. For example, with four contestants left, the judges' favourite would receive four points, second favourite three points, and so on, and similarly with the viewers' rankings.

The Dance Off is performed by the two couples with the lowest scores following the judges' scores and public vote. After performing their dance again, the judges are asked one-by-one who they would like to save, and the couple with the most votes remains in the competition. If there is a tie, head judge has the deciding vote.

Now let me take Ram's Elimination Round.

Judges marks + votes

There was total 8 contestants when ram came into the dance off

Let us start with the Judges marks + Votes total

RAM

As per judges marks Ram scored 1
As per the Votes Ram Scored 8

Total 9

Now let us see the next low scorer

KARAN

Judges Marks 2
As per votes (assuming 2nd ) 7

Total 9

Now next lowest scorer

MONICA
judges 3
As per votes assuming 4 (since baichung gets more votes than her) or give her 5 or give her 6

Total 7 / 8/9

Next lowest Scorer

Gauhar 4
Votes 1

Total 5

Now question here is who should be there in the elimination round.. Certainly not Ram...........

Now tell me why should we vote for our favourates, when votes are not been counted, where as channel's decision is been counted?


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Posted: 16 years ago
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The assumption is being made that Mr Ram Kapoor scored highest in the voting...

Seeing as the performance wasn't strong, there is a fair chance that people who would have otherwise voted for Mr Ram Kapoor ended up voting for one of the other contestants whose performance was more impressive.

Attrition in voting is indeed possible - I'll use the example of my favourite TV actor (Ronit Roy). In Yeh Hai Jalwa his team was at number one for around 7 weeks in a row... but towards the end, Rakhi Di's team improved tenfold and they started coming out with spectacular performances... and so there's no doubt that they gained votes where as Ronit Sir's team got less from his not-so-die-hard fans.
And so just as merit was a big factor in Yeh Hai Jalwa, I'm sure it plays a significant part in JDJ3 also. I'd guess that Mr Ram Kapoor's unimpressive performance must have resulted in less votes from not-so-diehard fans.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well its not rocket science to realize that they're making money off of their contestants -- be it Ram, parul or karan.. Ram did get a lot of votes compared to other contestants the week he was eliminated.. but his score was 16 which put him in the danceoff 😕.. why should we take the risk, that too now. I mean he's already eliminated, WC is the only one chance to bring him back. And at this point we don't know if WC is 100% votes or 50-50 (which we'll see friday).. i mean you do have a point, but as a Ram fan.. i'd rather not take the risk of not voting or voting less.. cuz as it is anythings possible..🤪🤪
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lord-Mangeshwar

The assumption is being made that Mr Ram Kapoor scored highest in the voting... I'd guess that Mr Ram Kapoor's unimpressive performance must have resulted in less votes from not-so-diehard fans.

IF you pay attention to the hosts and what they're saying, while you're watching the show, you'll notice ST said Ram got a lottttt more votes than parul (the week he was eliminated) so going by that, its assumed that Ram got high votes. If he was not the no. 1 vote getter, he must've been somewhere Top 3..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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lats55 you are right ram was one of the highest vote getter that week. It was said on the show that he got alot more than Parul that day. So your assumption spot on. But we cannot depend on the channel, see my guess is they knew that Ram would pull in votes so they used him. They tend to do that with one of the popular contestants, last JDJ they did that with Prachi, because they knew her fans would vote. It is all about making money and popular likeable stars are the ones they use.

But we cannot take the chance and not vote for Ram, so lets put channel politics aside and vote for Ram and bring him back.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Lats55 I do think votes count. On the week of Ram elimination, Shweta Tiwari said that Ram got more votes than Parul and Baiching. Going by that I think we can say the voting was something like this

#1 Karan
#2 Ram
#3 Baichung (as he usually gets the second highest)
#4 Parul
#5 Hard
#6 Monica
#7 Shilpa
#8 Gauhar

From points given my judges

Ram - 16
Karan - !9
Gauhar - 23
Monica - 24

Now Karan had to get equal votes to Monica and than extra to make up for the points difference, which he did

For Ram to miss being in faceoff he had to get as much votes as monica + votes to make up for 8 points difference. I think even though he got the second highest votes, it was not ecough to make up for that points difference.

In fact Shweta metioned the week before Ram was eliminated that him and Parul got the same votes and the week he got emiminated she said that he got more than Parul, so I am assuming his votes increased, but it was just not enough to make up for the huge difference in points that he got from the judges. So we can see that judges scores are pretty important too.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mrs. SIR

IF you pay attention to the hosts and what they're saying, while you're watching the show, you'll notice ST said Ram got a lottttt more votes than parul (the week he was eliminated) so going by that, its assumed that Ram got high votes. If he was not the no. 1 vote getter, he must've been somewhere Top 3..

IF you pay attention to what is written in the initial post in this topic, then you'll notice that the topic starter's assumption of Mr Ram Kapoor getting the highest number of votes does make a hugeeeee difference!
You're right - the guy did get more votes than Parul... but in no way at all does that mean that he got the highest! Who is to say that he wouldn't have gotten even more votes if he performed better? (We'll never know)
Anyways, Going by the scoring system that lata55 is pointing out, IF Mr Ram Kapoor was in number 3 (NOT number 1) position for votes, then his scoring would be as follows
As per judges marks Ram scored 1
As per the Votes Ram Scored 6

Total 7
And let's face it, that makes a MASSIVE difference! If you take that into account, then there is nothing questionable about the dance-off!
Being one of the highest in voting and being the highest are two different things... and in this case, it is very significant. And that was the only point I wanted to make.
As always, God bless.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@lats55- It is true that channels make money of their contestants. The week Ram was eliminated it was said that he was one of the highest vote getters and received more votes than Parul that weeek but like Navs said it was because of his low scores that he was in dance off. Now you are asking why vote when votes are not being counted for our favorites and here I would say it is better to vote and hope and pray it is all counted and bring him back instead of taking the risk of not voting
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lord-Mangeshwar

IF you pay attention to what is written in the initial post in this topic, then you'll notice that the topic starter's assumption of Mr Ram Kapoor getting the highest number of votes does make a hugeeeee difference! yes, to you and only you!
You're right - the guy did get more votes than Parul... but in no way at all does that mean that he got the highest! Who is to say that he wouldn't have gotten even more votes if he performed better? (We'll never know) that's not the point so y go off-topic..if he had performed better, then he'd get a better score also not just votes but as i said.. thats' not the point..
and again you're the only one who seems bothered about the whole 'highest voter' situation.. others who read the post, took it to simply mean one of the highest.. 😃
Anyways, Going by the scoring system that lata55 is pointing out, IF Mr Ram Kapoor was in number 3 (NOT number 1) position for votes, then his scoring would be as follows
As per judges marks Ram scored 1
As per the Votes Ram Scored 6

Total 7
And let's face it, that makes a MASSIVE difference! If you take that into account, then there is nothing questionable about the dance-off! since he WAS in the danceoff.. it means he was one of the top voters.. but the 16 didn't help.. so relax, we all got d point..
Being one of the highest in voting and being the highest are two different things... and in this case, it is very significant. And that was the only point I wanted to make. understood.. and as i said.. you're the only one who seems bothered about it.. everyone else understood that the writer of the post meant ONE of the highest voters..

Edited by Mrs. SIR - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lord-Mangeshwar

The assumption is being made that Mr Ram Kapoor scored highest in the voting...

Seeing as the performance wasn't strong, there is a fair chance that people who would have otherwise voted for Mr Ram Kapoor ended up voting for one of the other contestants whose performance was more impressive.

Attrition in voting is indeed possible - I'll use the example of my favourite TV actor (Ronit Roy). In Yeh Hai Jalwa his team was at number one for around 7 weeks in a row... but towards the end, Rakhi Di's team improved tenfold and they started coming out with spectacular performances... and so there's no doubt that they gained votes where as Ronit Sir's team got less from his not-so-die-hard fans.
And so just as merit was a big factor in Yeh Hai Jalwa, I'm sure it plays a significant part in JDJ3 also. I'd guess that Mr Ram Kapoor's unimpressive performance must have resulted in less votes from not-so-diehard fans.
God bless.



This is not assumption but it was said in the episode if listened carefully or put on high volume that on that particular day he did receive more votes than Parul and therefore must have been in the top 3 highest vote getters if not the highest.

See I seem to disagree with you here😆😆, whether performance was good or bad people who like him and those who are his fans will vote for him no matter what to keep him in the show😉

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